CBS News Report...Cover-up at Clemson (link)
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Many, many examples of less than average police work around that campus.
Good story by cbs. Sad, strange situation. No way 30 other guys don't know what happened.
Good story by cbs. Sad, strange situation. No way 30 other guys don't know what happened.
Cocky kebo57
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Personally, I suspect he was thrown over the bridge for not getting the frat brothers their hardees sausage biscuits. That's just a guess and I could be very wrong, but it makes sense from all that I've read about. Somebody knows something, they just aren't telling! Very sad story, hope they are able to get the truth for the family, and justice for the young man IF a crime was committed.
Feel sorry for the family. They will never learn the truth. Thanks to CBS. No news organization in this state will ever do any real digging into anything that goes on up there much less give it some publicity like CBS is trying to do.
The cops up there are worthless unless someone attacks Howard's Rock..... Really comical if it were not so sad.
The cops up there are worthless unless someone attacks Howard's Rock..... Really comical if it were not so sad.
THANK YOU! I feel as if I'm the only one OUTRAGED at the South Carolina media. They frickin' job is to investigate stories like this, and try to uncover more of the truth than any would like to reveal. Instead, it takes national reporters at CBS to even write a minimal story about it. Every journalist and editor in this state deserves to have their a$$ beaten for letting this go as if it's nothing more than another mailman that got bit by a dog. I don't care that it's Clemson. I care that a young man with a wonderful future ahead of him was killed and no one cares to expose it.
These same "journalists" spent countless hours investigating and reporting on each time Stephen Garcia had a beer on his porch or at 5 Points, but a young man is killed at Clemson, and nothing more than a couple of cover up pieces written.
Disgusting.
That would make sense...
When you read this below... Someone in the fraternity has to be in charged and keep a count who comes back and if not all pledges and brothers who don't come back, go find them or call the police... Leave 5:30 am and report a missing pledge at 1pm???
I think you assessment is correct and it took them about 7-8 hours to get their story straight as a group before going to the police...
On September 22, three fraternity members and 27 pledges, including Hipps, met at Clemson's Donaldson Hall at 5:30 a.m. The pledges and brothers at the Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity went for a group run.
Hipps, the others later reported, lagged behind on the run and never made it to breakfast. At 1 p.m. that day, they notified campus police he was missing and that afternoon, Hipps's body was discovered lying in rocky, shallow water.
how is this not a possibility?? it has nothing to do with "hatred" for
Clemson but a healthy respect for how events "happen" in Clemson and after an initial news story, the ultimate resolution is not put out for public consumption via media coverage, the frat in question apparently has such a bad reputation that their activities on campus have been suspended, instead of suing the frat and the university, the family should also include the police department for shoddy work in the investigation and all follow up that has occurred, if you don't think clem doesn't operate this way, remember that we didn't know anything about the multiple times Chad Kelly had brushes with the law until he had been kicked off the team
Clemson but a healthy respect for how events "happen" in Clemson and after an initial news story, the ultimate resolution is not put out for public consumption via media coverage, the frat in question apparently has such a bad reputation that their activities on campus have been suspended, instead of suing the frat and the university, the family should also include the police department for shoddy work in the investigation and all follow up that has occurred, if you don't think clem doesn't operate this way, remember that we didn't know anything about the multiple times Chad Kelly had brushes with the law until he had been kicked off the team
Re: how is this not a possibility?? it has nothing to do with "hatred" for
That...plus that time Dablow was clocked going 65 in a 35 because he was late to some radio show, then the officer got fired!?!?
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That...plus that time Dablow was clocked going 65 in a 35 because he was late to some radio show, then the officer got fired!?!?
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The intelligence of the Clemson police and the way they conduct investigations would make Barney Fife appear to be Sherlock Holmes.
Cocky kebo57
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At least one, if not all three, of those frat boys HAS to know the truth of what happened! Like someone already said, it will eventually come out.
The Clemson Police Department.
That right there never fails to make me laugh.
I hope the parents get closure.
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That right there never fails to make me laugh.
I hope the parents get closure.
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Unfortunately, that does make the most sense. If he were going to commit suicide it wouldn't make sense to do it from a 25 foot bridge. In the photos that bridge has a concrete barrier so it is highly unlikely that someone could have been running and fell off the side. If a car had run him off the side, the others would have heard/seen something. Common sense does not tell me this is an accident. His parents are right to continue to pursue this.
There must be one God fearing kid in that fraternity with a conscience. I read where someone named King was behind him on the bridge, so there were more than just Tucker Hipps, and also that he could not have crawled over the side without help.
The Delaware, D-Senators son was born to lie. (just being from political family). He would also be scared to get his old man in the news. But I think he was the Pres of the frat. He is also married. He has to know something. What would we see if it were Sen. Carney's son? Gomer and Otis?
And they tried to stall Hipps girlfriend from looking for him. Why would they do that? I have only read and heard this little bit about it and I think I know more about it than the clempson PD. Barney must have been on duty that entire time. That police dept. is there for clemson university, and not the town or whatever it is. Their cops answer to the coaches and Tater U. Admin.I don't know about the Oconee County cops but they are supposedly the group who did the police work.
This is so serious and my heart breaks for the young man and his mom and dad .their only child. He was a good kid, went to Boy's State from his school, and was intelligent. His mother was so proud of him. But I can't help but picture Barney Fife driving his black and white when they should have SLED or some cops who didn't attend clemson doing some forensics and questioning immediately. I don't think they broke a sweat trying to find out what happened.
I would have called Fox news, CNBC, CBS, HLN. I would have been like Natalie Hollaway's mother. That is something a parent will never get over.
The Delaware, D-Senators son was born to lie. (just being from political family). He would also be scared to get his old man in the news. But I think he was the Pres of the frat. He is also married. He has to know something. What would we see if it were Sen. Carney's son? Gomer and Otis?
And they tried to stall Hipps girlfriend from looking for him. Why would they do that? I have only read and heard this little bit about it and I think I know more about it than the clempson PD. Barney must have been on duty that entire time. That police dept. is there for clemson university, and not the town or whatever it is. Their cops answer to the coaches and Tater U. Admin.I don't know about the Oconee County cops but they are supposedly the group who did the police work.
This is so serious and my heart breaks for the young man and his mom and dad .their only child. He was a good kid, went to Boy's State from his school, and was intelligent. His mother was so proud of him. But I can't help but picture Barney Fife driving his black and white when they should have SLED or some cops who didn't attend clemson doing some forensics and questioning immediately. I don't think they broke a sweat trying to find out what happened.
I would have called Fox news, CNBC, CBS, HLN. I would have been like Natalie Hollaway's mother. That is something a parent will never get over.
Wish they could make all 30 that were on the
run take a lie detector test. If they even threatened to do that somebody would crack.
At least those lawsuits might put some pressure on the right people. $50 mill is a big number.
run take a lie detector test. If they even threatened to do that somebody would crack.
At least those lawsuits might put some pressure on the right people. $50 mill is a big number.
Re: Wish they could make all 30 that were on the
I'm sure some of those boys would be talking....
If I was the father of Tucker, my detector test would be take a rope and tie it around their balls and dangle them over the same bridge....
I'm sure some of those boys would be talking....
That barrier is pretty high. It's not likely that he just fell over and if he jumped I don't think he would have landed on his head. There would have been "blunt force trauma" on his body and not just his head. To be honest, tho, it seems silly to throw someone off a bridge over such a silly incident.
Note:That idiot reporter actually asked his mom what it was like to look at her dead son. Wow!
Note:That idiot reporter actually asked his mom what it was like to look at her dead son. Wow!
One of my sons has several friends from HS that are in that Fraternity at CU. There is definitely a LOT more to this story than what has been admitted. No way did the young man fall from the bridge by accident. He either jumped or was placed in a situation as a pledge, that cost him his life.
The initial missing persons report did not come until 1:00 PM, about six hours after the 'run'. Listen to the caller. If the death had not been such a tragic event, the call would be considered comedic.
The initial missing persons report did not come until 1:00 PM, about six hours after the 'run'. Listen to the caller. If the death had not been such a tragic event, the call would be considered comedic.
Cocky kebo57
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Remember we are talking about tillmanites here, silly is the norm for them. Case in point is dumbo swinney dressed as a clown.
I am not sure if SLED ever got involved or not...but I do know the police said they were turning it over to a detective that handles 'unsolved' cases. If I were his parents...I would be calling the police and anyone else that I could think of DAILY!
Wrong, it's the police job to investigate, it's the media's job to report the news. Either way. They don't do their job.
That article was devoid of some critical information, such as:
- That fraternity regularly pushed pledges off of the bridge.
- Hartwell was only at 4-feet of depth below the bridge that day.
- Tucker Hipps was used to running and in great shape, dispelling the "lagging behind" nonsense.
- That fraternity regularly pushed pledges off of the bridge.
- Hartwell was only at 4-feet of depth below the bridge that day.
- Tucker Hipps was used to running and in great shape, dispelling the "lagging behind" nonsense.
Sorry but this is way off base.
These same kind of kids are doing the same things in Columbia.There is no "cover-up" or "conspiracy theory" in tatertown. Gee whiz, they've interviewed, polygraphed the kids that were with him that morning and there are no inconsistencies in the stories.
These same kind of kids are doing the same things in Columbia.There is no "cover-up" or "conspiracy theory" in tatertown. Gee whiz, they've interviewed, polygraphed the kids that were with him that morning and there are no inconsistencies in the stories.
I feel sorry for his family. If that were my kid, I would stop at nothing to hold those responsible for his death accountable and the university also. Damn shame this crap stain of a university gets away with this and south carolina state media gives them a free pass on most everything.
I've heard this and I've heard they sometimes make them jump off and swim across. Dangling and dropping him seems more likely since he hit his head though.
If that's the case, they obviously didn't mean for him to go over the side or get hurt, but when you mess around like that, something bad is bound to happen eventually. Terrible accident and tragedy because of reckless behavior. The cover up is the most despicable though.
There is one person in the state that can keep SLED out of the investigation. What color does she wear on game days? And, she appointed the director.
My question is since the (possible) crime was committed on an Army Corps of Engineers lake, can the Feds be brought in?
My question is since the (possible) crime was committed on an Army Corps of Engineers lake, can the Feds be brought in?
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