A rising tide lifts all NIL boats

[bigsirspur]

SEC with Texas and Oklahoma is a marketing and TV rights juggernaut. Right now the B1G has a better footprint in terms of markets and numbers of eyeballs watching games, and their alumni pockets, per capita, are probably deeper. Adding Austin and the Texas alumni footprint and Oklahoma alum would really help. When savvy teenagers are looking to build their brand and get exposure, this can matter. There is lots of talent out there. We are not competing for it with just SEC schools. In terms of media markets, SEC actually has some catching up to do. I love SC, but let's face it, from a $$ standpoint, it's not Chicago or NJ/PA/NY/MD.

Also, assume ND to the ACC or B1G is going to happen. I don't see how ND can recruit without getting better high profile games when players are now thinking about their marketability.

The name of the game is no longer just who can get you ready for the NFL.

 

[king ward]

The population and wealth of the United States are moving south to a greater extent than north.

 

[bigsirspur]

The population and wealth of the United States are moving south to a greater extent than north.

Population shift, yes definitely. Wealth? I'd like to see those numbers. The South gets lots of plants (which do draw engineers from places like Ohio and Pa), but the headquarters and most of the very highly-compensated jobs remain in the NE corridor. But that is income, not wealth. Maybe there are numbers that wealth has shifted here, but that would surprise me.

Now, I'm not sure the relationship of wealth to football fandom. For example, the Ivy schools alum are not really well known for following football. I have had feet in both North and South and the sheer number of people at high incomes and with massive wealth decamillionaires and above is staggering in the North). Lots of younger families (good for growing fan base) and retirees move here, but I don't know that retirees turn into SEC fans. They probably keep their allegiances and continue to watch B1G network. There probably is good data somewhere on ratings and sheer numbers of football watchers by conference and state.

 

[Balwiles]

SEC with Texas and Oklahoma is a marketing and TV rights juggernaut. Right now the B1G has a better footprint in terms of markets and numbers of eyeballs watching games, and their alumni pockets, per capita, are probably deeper. Adding Austin and the Texas alumni footprint and Oklahoma alum would really help. When savvy teenagers are looking to build their brand and get exposure, this can matter. There is lots of talent out there. We are not competing for it with just SEC schools. In terms of media markets, SEC actually has some catching up to do. I love SC, but let's face it, from a $$ standpoint, it's not Chicago or NJ/PA/NY/MD.

Also, assume ND to the ACC or B1G is going to happen. I don't see how ND can recruit without getting better high profile games when players are now thinking about their marketability.

The name of the game is no longer just who can get you

SEC with Texas and Oklahoma is a marketing and TV rights juggernaut. Right now the B1G has a better footprint in terms of markets and numbers of eyeballs watching games, and their alumni pockets, per capita, are probably deeper. Adding Austin and the Texas alumni footprint and Oklahoma alum would really help. When savvy teenagers are looking to build their brand and get exposure, this can matter. There is lots of talent out there. We are not competing for it with just SEC schools. In terms of media markets, SEC actually has some catching up to do. I love SC, but let's face it, from a $$ standpoint, it's not Chicago or NJ/PA/NY/MD.

Also, assume ND to the ACC or B1G is going to happen. I don't see how ND can recruit without getting better high profile games when players are now thinking about their marketability.

The name of the game is no longer just who can get you ready for the NFL.

SEC with Texas and Oklahoma is a marketing and TV rights juggernaut. Right now the B1G has a better footprint in terms of markets and numbers of eyeballs watching games, and their alumni pockets, per capita, are probably deeper. Adding Austin and the Texas alumni footprint and Oklahoma alum would really help. When savvy teenagers are looking to build their brand and get exposure, this can matter. There is lots of talent out there. We are not competing for it with just SEC schools. In terms of media markets, SEC actually has some catching up to do. I love SC, but let's face it, from a $$ standpoint, it's not Chicago or NJ/PA/NY/MD.

Also, assume ND to the ACC or B1G is going to happen. I don't see how ND can recruit without getting better high profile games when players are now thinking about their marketability.

The name of the game is no longer just who can get you ready for the NFL.

SEC with Texas and Oklahoma is a marketing and TV rights juggernaut. Right now the B1G has a better footprint in terms of markets and numbers of eyeballs watching games, and their alumni pockets, per capita, are probably deeper. Adding Austin and the Texas alumni footprint and Oklahoma alum would really help. When savvy teenagers are looking to build their brand and get exposure, this can matter. There is lots of talent out there. We are not competing for it with just SEC schools. In terms of media markets, SEC actually has some catching up to do. I love SC, but let's face it, from a $$ standpoint, it's not Chicago or NJ/PA/NY/MD.

Also, assume ND to the ACC or B1G is going to happen. I don't see how ND can recruit without getting better high profile games when players are now thinking about their marketability.

The name of the game is no longer just who can get you ready for the NFL.

You still have to sell Columbia. If OK and UT jump onboard, it will likely mean more SEC money and us having two more contenders to cheer for in January.

 

[rogue cock]

The population and wealth of the United States are moving south to a greater extent than north.

True....but the biggest city in SC would be around 6th largest or worse just in the state of Ohio.

 

[SC 95]

As a Charlotte native, current Charlottesville-area resident, and SC and UVA graduate, I follow both conferences. I like the ACC the way it was but like it now, too.

Yet money will dictate changes. If OU and Texas join the SEC, perhaps the Big 10 and the ACC should merge. That is 28 teams plus ND and pick up some Big 12 teams to make the numbers work.

 

[rogue cock]

As a Charlotte native, current Charlottesville-area resident, and SC and UVA graduate, I follow both conferences. I like the ACC the way it was but like it now, too.

Yet money will dictate changes. If OU and Texas join the SEC, perhaps the Big 10 and the ACC should merge. That is 28 teams plus ND and pick up some Big 12 teams to make the numbers work.

The Big 10 could take GaTech, UNC, Duke, UVA, and Pitt.

 

[king ward]

True....but the biggest city in SC would be around 6th largest or worse just in the state of Ohio.

S.C will probably never be larger than Ohio, but there was a time when Texas and Florida weren't either. Georgia is surging as well, and North Carolina. This is a 50-100 year decision, Brother. That's about all I can say about it.

 

[king ward]

Population shift, yes definitely. Wealth? I'd like to see those numbers. The South gets lots of plants (which do draw engineers from places like Ohio and Pa), but the headquarters and most of the very highly-compensated jobs remain in the NE corridor. But that is income, not wealth. Maybe there are numbers that wealth has shifted here, but that would surprise me.

Now, I'm not sure the relationship of wealth to football fandom. For example, the Ivy schools alum are not really well known for following football. I have had feet in both North and South and the sheer number of people at high incomes and with massive wealth decamillionaires and above is staggering in the North). Lots of younger families (good for growing fan base) and retirees move here, but I don't know that retirees turn into SEC fans. They probably keep their allegiances and continue to watch B1G network. There probably is good data somewhere on ratings and sheer numbers of football watchers by conference and state.

If there is, it certainly isn't being overlooked by the principals in this enterprise. This thing is happening the way it's happening for a reason - maybe several reasons.