A win in game #1 is critical

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  1. rockingamecock

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    . . . the last thing we need is a loss in the opener before travelling to Mizz-ery . . . the thought of starting off 0-2 makes me sick to my stomach.
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    Captain Obvious
     
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    Honestly if we don't take both of those games, the season will be in serious jeopardy.
     
  3. Goldhunter

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    Agree but even if we were to lose the first game we could still go on to have a good conference record. Let's not jump ship after game one.
     
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    NC State isn't favored by that much. That game is winnable.
     
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    Win Baby! That's what we have to do. Just win the game.
     
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    This is a tough game but losing it only means you don't go undefeated, it's not the whole season. They are strong up front on defense and a good football team it will come down to our OL and conditioning with the heat. I don't panic after a first game loss, half the teams that play that weekend will lose. It will tell us more if we win because we beat a good team early but if we lose all is not lost. But for the record we ain't losing.
     
  8. ken in sacramento

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    NC State will be a tough out for anyone. There is whole season after that game though.

    That said- Win and we are sky high.
     
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    This is obvious to everyone!
     
  10. Gamecockben1979

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    While I do not want to lose the opener:
    1. It's not a conference game
    2. It's not clemson

    Losing your opener is not fun but technically all of our goals will still be on the table win or lose after game 1.

    I love my team but we are not going undefeated this season.
     
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    Honestly I would be ecstatic if we just finished the season ranked. It's felt like a lifetime since we were in the top 25. I miss having that number next to South Carolina on the graphic.
     
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    "Critical" seems a bit dramatic.
     
  13. E-Cut_22

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    With our schedule id say its a must win. If you hold illusions of losing to NC st but still somehow winning the SEC youll get some snickers
     
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    Yeah. A few yrs back everyone said the team that won the opener between us and UNC would have a good season and the loser would have a bad year. We won and stunk up the season. UNC won out the reg season.

    1st game means nothing
     
  15. cockyboyjae

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    I truly think it's feasible to start out 4-0. I also think it's necessary if we're going to win at least 8 this season.
     
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  16. Harvard Gamecock

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    Losing to NCST would be disappointing but not critical. Beating MIzzou the next week would definitely be critical, don't want to be staring at the rest of season at 0-2
     
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    How does NC St affect our SEC record?
     
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    You don't think we could lose to state and still win the east? I don't think anyone is counting on winning the sec but winning the east isn't out of the question. It's a long shot for sure but there hasn't been a dominant/good team in the east in a while. Florida has won it with no offense and a good defense the last two years. No reason we can't do it with a good offense and no defense.
     
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    Not worried...it's NC State. The ASheShe is only Clemmy and the Noles. I know we're scratching and clawing our way back up the East but even the 2nd or 3rd best team in our division is better than anything their pathetic conference has to offer. We'll role the pack with Bentley and our offensive firepower.
     
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    We haven't lost a season opener in 18 years.... We ain't losing

    Edit- Supressed that Texas A&M game
     
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    If you hold illusions of this team winning the SEC you better get used to a few snickers. We're closing the gap but this isn't the year. We need a major overhaul on defense. They were horrible last year by seasons end
     
  22. NooNoo

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    Closing the gap? On who?

    QUOTE="Gamecockben1979, post: 3409594, member: 104977"]If you hold illusions of this team winning the SEC you better get used to a few snickers. We're closing the gap but this isn't the year. We need a major overhaul on defense. They were horrible last year by seasons end[/QUOTE]
     
  23. Gamecockben1979

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    The voice of reason. If we beat NC State and lose to Louisiana Tech that win vs State won't matter much.

    Likewise if we lost to Nc State but won at Florida, a game most people don't think we would win, we would probably be on pace to have a similar season that most project, just winning and losing different games.

    Each game is it's own baby. The Nc game from 2 years ago proved that.
     
  24. Gamecockben1979

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    @NooNoo

    We are not projected to be the doormat this year that we were going into last season. There is a lot to be optimistic about on offense. The defense will improve if for no other reason we will have Moore back.

    I question if you pull for USC if you cannot see that a 3-9 team improves to 6-7, brings back a lot of experience and you do not think we are not closing the gap.

    How about Tennessee. Looked like we closed the gap pretty good on them last season.

    We aren't going to win the east but a 2nd or 3rd place finish in the east is likely, barring an injury to Bentley or Dowdle[/QUOTE]
     
  25. Harvard Gamecock

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    Umm, No.
     
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    I still see post not giving the ACC much credit. It's time to put that to rest. It's turning into a heck of a conference and many saying the best football conference in America presently. State has a mid to top tier team in that Conference this year and that would be a heck of win to jumpstart the season.
     
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    I want to be optimistic with you. We better finish strongly with a top 10-15 class. Tennessee (cheating or not) is eating our lunch on the recruiting trail. Haven't mentioned our other neighbors. We need to get hot asap for me to change that perception. I'll admit the last three games have colored my perception of everything.

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    Did you catch the Texas A&M opener a couple of years ago ?
     
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    NC State is a strong football team and if you don't believe it you don't know much. I say we ARE closing the recruiting gap while others don't so but we did knock Tenn. out of the East title last year with a team that lost to the Citadel the year before. We have to give Muschamp and his guys time to come back from the depths of darkness. You have to have good recruits sure,but the games are played on the field not in recruiting rankings. +
     
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    And when I saw the word "critical", I took it to imply it was an expectation. We are underdogs playing away from the friendly confines of Willy B. If we win, I will be ecstatic.
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    The good news is even in our worst years Missouri, Vandy and Kentucky are not going to be far away from us. Tennessee is not the team they once were. They've spent the last decade being mediocre. Georgia always has more talent but no coaching. We have a long way to go to catch Florida. They aren't unbeatable but they are deeper than us across the board.
     
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    The good news is even in our worst years Missouri, Vandy and Kentucky are not going to be far away from us. Tennessee is not the team they once were. They've spent the last decade being mediocre. Georgia usually has more talent but no coaching. We have a long way to go to catch Florida. They aren't unbeatable but they are deeper than us across the board.[/QUOTE]
     
  33. NooNoo

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    Ugh what? Loon


    QUOTE="TimmyCock, post: 3409811, member: 105747"]You clearly missed the UNCheat game when we beat their coastal champ. We would have been the second best team in that conference.[/QUOTE]
     
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  34. E-Cut_22

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    Its a comparison of
    Nvm....

    Some of you guys just arent worth the effort
     
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    If we can't beat this milquetoast, low-profile N.C. State program, we aren't going anywhere.
     
  36. Eighty6pack

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    Just because they won the weak Coastal does not make them the second best team in the conference
     
  37. gamecockblack

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    While I agree with your post, there is value in winning your opening game. If nothing else for moral & confidence purposes, especially with us having such a young team again.
     
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    Lol. That one slipped my mind
     
  39. sandlapper59

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    There are no must wins. There are some should wins but NC State is probably not one of these. They have a good football team and they along with most pundits think they will beat us. I am a degree holder from both schools but am a Gamecock first and foremost. We will need to have a very good game to beat them. Continuing to dismiss the ACC as ladies in football uniforms and milquetoast is an indication of someone who has not been paying attention. ACC vs SEC was 10 to 4 last year if my memory is correct. What planet with internet services do some here live on?
     
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    I think last years Oklahoma team would disagree with you
    NVM
    Rude jackholes should just be put on ignore.
     

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