I can believe this. The repugnant sewer rats that don't care about college football will stoop to any level.
What two teams did the ACC have in the 2020 college football playoffs? Clemson, LSU, Oklahoma, and Ohio State were in the playoffs in 2020.
What? Notre Dame and Alabama were in the playoffs last year.
ND doesn't count. They need to join the ACC full time and operate on ACC money before they count. The conference hasn't had the chance to pull ND into land of misery yet.
Agree. Their should be an * besides Notre Dame name regarding conference affiliation as temporary ACC member due to the Corona virus. Point of my post was ACC could be like kryptonite for football schools that would want to joint the ACC.
Sir, I really like you as a poster. I find your post to be interesting, entertaining and informative. But to Texas fans, if that is what they want, then have fun playing Pitt, BC, Syracuse, VT, WF and dook.
It is just being reported by Rivals Orangeblood reporters from sources inside the Texas administration. I don't think Texas is at all interested in the ACC, but if Oklahoma is blocked by their legislature from going SEC, to save Oklahoma State, it might be attractive to them as Plan B.
I don't think Texas is at all interested in the ACC. Neither is Oklahoma, except as Plan B if their legislature successfully blocks them from the SEC to protect Oklahoma State. That is the big difference as the ACC is supposedly willing to offer all three, Texas, OU and Okie State. The SEC only wants Texas and OU. To Texas it doesn't matter. We would like OU to come to the SEC as well to maintain that rivalry, but if they can't then they can't. The only thing stopping Texas from the SEC will be an unexpected vote there, or The Big Ten really stepping up right now with a generous offer. Even then it is a close call.
This was an inevitable event that the ACC and in all probability the other 2 conferences would reach out to them. Everyone already knew that would happen. Decision is done. Besides, the Oklahoma legislature thing has already been discounted as being unenforceable. Oklahoma State is actually a big winner in this. They were never going to be invited to join the SEC so now they probably are Big 10 bound, a much better alternative to the Big 12.
The Big Ten has been reluctant to offer non AAU schools, so what if Oklahoma State doesn't get a Big Ten offer? I think Oklahoma State may fair poorly in this. Kansas probably finds a resting spot there, but I doubt Oklahoma State.
You may be right but at some point as mega conferences form, the Big Ten is going to have to drop their holier than thou attitude towards traditional football schools. Maybe they can get Stanford, Cal, etc to join them ? What would be hilarious is seeing the Big 10 rob the ACC of schools like Duke, Virginia, UNC, etc. I think at that point Clemson comes crawling on their knees to the SEC.
It depends on how many of these "reports" have legs. But I believe the people who most want it to happen and who have the power to make it happen have reached agreement. It will now depend on the degree of willfulness of any obstructionist person of group, such as a legislature. But I would think most of those key people have also had their temperature taken.
I don't know about the Ok legislature, OU has a tough road. But in Texas, this was timed perfectly. The Legislature is out of session as of May and won't be back until January 10, 2023. I expect by then the Big 12 will be defunct and Texas already playing in the SEC. Sure, legislation can be passed in a special session, but only if the subject is placed there by the Texas Governor. Governor Abbott is a fervant Texas fan and likely has been in on this move from the start. He has a $55 dollar political warchest and is basically immune from pressure. Even if he was strongarmed some way to place it on the call, the House Speaker is also a Texas Ex and would never allow anti-Texas legislation to go to the floor for a vote. So they can bluster, but have little recourse legislatively.
Could see the ACC going after Vandy and even Kentucky, but they aren't naive enough to go after TOSU or PSU as the ACC can't match the BTAA funding.
Copied from another teams board:
Very good information. It dispels a lot of misapprehension.
B1G schools are NOT going anywhere period. For all of you who don't know, the Big Ten is one of a few conferences that is every bit as much an academic conference as it is an athletic one, if not moreso. The BTAA controls around $10B in research monies that its member schools have access to....that is B as in BILLIONS. The SEC can't even fathom to touch that kind of money.
The academic endowment money for certain schools is mind boggling. Harvard has around $50 Billion in endowments by itself. $50 Billion. That's crazy.
Can they use that money however they see fit? For example can they use funds to transform the dormitories into penthouses ?
I think the Ivy League is about the only conference that can compete with the BTAA on research monies that the member schools have access to. Think I read where the ACC has a much smaller version of the BTAA.
No....those are research monies.
It never ceases to amaze me how some think that being in the SEC athletic conference is just the end all to all financial problems.
I read one report that stated Oklahoma State may get an invitation to the BIG.
