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This rock needs extra security and protection because after all it is..........a rock..........and anyone who breaks a rock.....well just think before you do it. It could have been a very valuable door stop and tossed out before someone realized it's true value and placed it under glass. WTF......

The case of Micah Rogers, 20, will be heard in Pickens. Rogers is charged with grand larceny and malicious injury to property of more than $10,000. He could face up to 20 years in jail.

Since the incident, security around the rock has been increased.

http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article27892546.html
 
This rock needs extra security and protection because after all it is..........a rock..........and anyone who breaks a rock.....well just think before you do it. It could have been a very valuable door stop and tossed out before someone realized it's true value and placed it under glass. WTF......

The case of Micah Rogers, 20, will be heard in Pickens. Rogers is charged with grand larceny and malicious injury to property of more than $10,000. He could face up to 20 years in jail.

Since the incident, security around the rock has been increased.

http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article27892546.html

...and let "the rock" trail begin......

I think you meant to day trial instead of trail.
 
This rock needs extra security and protection because after all it is..........a rock..........and anyone who breaks a rock.....well just think before you do it. It could have been a very valuable door stop and tossed out before someone realized it's true value and placed it under glass. WTF......

The case of Micah Rogers, 20, will be heard in Pickens. Rogers is charged with grand larceny and malicious injury to property of more than $10,000. He could face up to 20 years in jail.

Since the incident, security around the rock has been increased.

http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article27892546.html
For anyone who thinks Howard's Rock is stupid solely based off that it is only a rock, you'd be right. But although it is just a rock, it represents the history throughout the school. Every football player that ever has and ever will play at Clemson will rub the rock and run down the hill.

On the side of the trial being stupid, I can get where you're coming from but vandalism is vandalism. It's university property so of course it would be counted as vandalism..

EDIT: Since my words were mistaken, I will change it to "Every football player that played for Howard and every football player since then did/will rub the rock and run down the hill."
 
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Hit a girl with a towel bar...crickets chirp. Throw a girl down the stairs, AFTER trying to smother her with a pillow...crickets chirp. Cold cock a guy just standing on the street corner...crickets chirp. Mess with a rock that use to be a door stop, and was also fished out of a dumpster..."boy! You in a heap a trouble now! We gonna bring Ole'Sparky outta retirement just for you."
 
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For anyone who thinks Howard's Rock is stupid soley based off that it is only a rock, you'd be right. But although it is just a rock, it represents the history throughout the school. Every football player that ever has and ever will play at Clemson will rub the rock and run down the hill.

On the side of the trial being stupid, I can get where you're coming from but vandalism is vandalism. It's university property so of course it would be counted as vandalism.

Nick, Let me help you. I will stay away from spelling and let the board Nazis handle that one. I know it is hard to believe, but Clemson actually played football before Frank Howard got the doorstop, er um "mighty rock". I do agree with you that it is certainly symbolic. Symbolic in that it was just another lowly rock, worthless by most accounts. I am sure that many Clemson alumni and fans can relate to the feelings of worthlessness. But then, Coach Howard was given it by someone, likely as a joke. Coach Howard brought the lowly rock to Clemson and had it placed in a position of honor. A position far greater than its' actual worth. Much like the cheated for national championship and a Clem tech degree. Unfortunately, much like some of the women on your campus, it was maliciously beaten, broken and abducted. We all agree that there is no place for that on today's college campus. Today, the rock suffers a much more humiliating fate. It is molested by every football player and coach on your team but there is little it can do to protect itself. It is certainly difficult for a California rock to make it in upstate S.C.

BTW, when are the guys who keep painting the tiger paws on the State highway going to be charged with vandalism?
 
For anyone who thinks Howard's Rock is stupid solely based off that it is only a rock, you'd be right. But although it is just a rock, it represents the history throughout the school. Every football player that ever has and ever will play at Clemson will rub the rock and run down the hill.

On the side of the trial being stupid, I can get where you're coming from but vandalism is vandalism. It's university property so of course it would be counted as vandalism..

EDIT: Since my words were mistaken, I will change it to "Every football player that played for Howard and every football player since then did/will rub the rock and run down the hill."
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Nick, Let me help you. I will stay away from spelling and let the board Nazis handle that one. I know it is hard to believe, but Clemson actually played football before Frank Howard got the doorstop, er um "mighty rock". I do agree with you that it is certainly symbolic. Symbolic in that it was just another lowly rock, worthless by most accounts. I am sure that many Clemson alumni and fans can relate to the feelings of worthlessness. But then, Coach Howard was given it by someone, likely as a joke. Coach Howard brought the lowly rock to Clemson and had it placed in a position of honor. A position far greater than its' actual worth. Much like the cheated for national championship and a Clem tech degree. Unfortunately, much like some of the women on your campus, it was maliciously beaten, broken and abducted. We all agree that there is no place for that on today's college campus. Today, the rock suffers a much more humiliating fate. It is molested by every football player and coach on your team but there is little it can do to protect itself. It is certainly difficult for a California rock to make it in upstate S.C.

BTW, when are the guys who keep painting the tiger paws on the State highway going to be charged with vandalism?

Also, don't forget that ever the showman, camera hog, and "look how great I am" person that Yaba Daba is tongue kisses it every game before they run down the hill.
 
Nick, Let me help you. I will stay away from spelling and let the board Nazis handle that one. I know it is hard to believe, but Clemson actually played football before Frank Howard got the doorstop, er um "mighty rock". I do agree with you that it is certainly symbolic. Symbolic in that it was just another lowly rock, worthless by most accounts. I am sure that many Clemson alumni and fans can relate to the feelings of worthlessness. But then, Coach Howard was given it by someone, likely as a joke. Coach Howard brought the lowly rock to Clemson and had it placed in a position of honor. A position far greater than its' actual worth. Much like the cheated for national championship and a Clem tech degree. Unfortunately, much like some of the women on your campus, it was maliciously beaten, broken and abducted. We all agree that there is no place for that on today's college campus. Today, the rock suffers a much more humiliating fate. It is molested by every football player and coach on your team but there is little it can do to protect itself. It is certainly difficult for a California rock to make it in upstate S.C.

BTW, when are the guys who keep painting the tiger paws on the State highway going to be charged with vandalism?

I apologize for my one misspelled word. I have addressed and fixed the issue. I also apologize for stating every football player has rubbed the rock, because it is a lie. But I guess we all forget things at some point, maybe like forgetting your football team didn't start in 2009 (Friendly jab, there is no malice intent in this.. So don't bust a cap..). Howard's Rock is symbolic to the university as for one, it is one of the many faces of Clemson's football program. I'd much rather prefer something that is unique and the only entrance in college football like it, than something that is ultimately a let down and is like most college football entrances (Running out of a tunnel, into clouds of fog. Does it really get your blood pumping knowing your entrance is like most others?!). On account of feeling worthless, I'm sure USC also knows the feeling. Finish a season ranked #4, start the season #9 and then end up going, what was it? 7-6? I too would feel quite devastated continuing to get my 3rd place SEC rings and having a major let down season. But I guess you get used to it eventually. I believe you are very mistaken on the fact Clemson cheated for our national championship. Have you ever actually read the infractions against Clemson? Question. If we cheated to get out national championship, why do we still have it but got sanctioned by the ACC the following two years? I believe that if we did end up cheating to gain a national championship, we wouldn't have one. Reasons why we didn't cheat to gain a natty are listed below:

(Before I continue this list I would like to point out something. Most of the "terrible" violations happened prior to the 1980 season) (Giving a ride to a recruit anywhere, even from his HS to home, is a violation. This is one that has occurred at Clemson and SC in recent memory.) If you would care to read the FULL list, have at it.

- Paying two prospective student athletes ($500 a piece). This was not a coach of any kind, it was a Clemson booster in Knoxville. In the end these two guys never even enrolled at Clemson. Neither even got into a Div 1 program.

- a former assistant football coach and a representative of the university's athletic interests offered to provide the mother of a prospective student-athlete transportation to attend the university's football games during her son's enrollment. What is this crap. Are you kidding me?! She didn't even have a vehicle to drive herself.. AND the guy that would have driven her was a former coach.. Ridiculous.

- In February 1981, the head football coach offered to help find a job for a recruit's mother. (The first of two accounts of Danny Ford being accused of having direct involvement)

- In the spring and summer of 1979, a former assistant football coach arranged for a recruit to receive medical examinations and treatment for an ankle injury at no cost to the young man.

- During the 1978-79 academic year, a former assistant football coach gave a recruit cash to pay the necessary fee to take a college entrance examination. Are you kidding me? If this is considered "buying a player" then this is the poorest definition there is. Paying for the kid to take an entrance exam. Really?!

- In the fall of 1979, a former assistant football coach gave a white sport shirt to a prospective student-athlete, and numerous recruits have been provided T-shirts, football jerseys or souvenir photographs during visits to the university's campus,

- April 1980, the head football coach, director of athletics and dean of student affairs arranged for the university to pay the cost of a dental bill on behalf of a student-athlete. (The only other mention of Ford having a direct involvement)

- In the fall of 1981 and again in late February 1982, an assistant football coach telephoned the father of a recruit, which were reasonably interpreted a being request to provide the NCAA false
information concerning his son's recruitment by the university. Cam Newton ring a bell?

- In the fall of the 1980-81 academic year, an assistant football coach provided a recruit's father round-trip automobile transportation between his home and the university at the time he accompanied his son on an official paid visit to the university; further, the coach filed a false mileage reimbursement receipt with the university concerning this transportation.

- In spring of '79, an assistant football coach contacted a recruit for recruiting purposes at the young man's high school outside the permissible period for in-person recruiting contacts. Again it happened in 1980 several times and in Sept. 1981. (This still happens today)

- In the fall of 1979, an assistant football coach provided round-trip automobile transportation for a friend of a recruit to accompany the prospect on his official paid visit to the university.What.. A friend.. Are you serious..

- In the summer of 1981, an assistant football coach and a high school coach arranged for a recruit to be provided automobile transportation to attend the university's summer football camp. WHAT?!

- In the fall of 1979, a recruit was timed running the 40-yard dash by a former assistant football coach.

- In December 1978, a former assistant football coach arranged for a recruit to be employed by a booster prior to the completion of the young man's senior year in high school. (Probably left with Pell)

- During the 1980-81 and 1981-82 academic years, the university's football coaching staff entertained prospective and enrolled student-athletes off campus at a restaurant located outside of Clemson, South Carolina. Oh no!

- In July 1980, an assistant football coach gave cash to a high school assistant football coach to reimburse the coach for expenses incurred while transporting two recruits to the university's summer football camp. I really don't understand how some of these things are violations.

- In January 1981, an assistant football coach permitted a student-athlete to use his automobile to transport a recruit during his official paid visit to the university. This continues to happen everywhere. A recruit is assigned a host, and if he has no car of his own, he must borrow one or rent one.

- In December 1980, a former assistant football coach permitted two recruits to use his personal automobile during their official paid visits to the university

- In November 1979, an assistant football coach provided his automobile to a student hostess in order to transport a recruit during his official paid visit.

- During the 1980-81 academic year, individuals who were not enrolled in the university served as hosts for recruits on their official paid visits to the university.

- During the 1980-81 academic year, a recruit was provided four official paid visits to the university's campus.

- In July 1980, two recruits attended the university's summer football camp for one day at no cost to either young man. Watch out. They got a free day, it's not like schools continue to do this.

- On three occasions during the 1980-81 academic year, a booster entertained a recruit for a meal.

- In October 1980, a booster gave a student hostess cash for her gasoline expenses to transport a recruit from his home to the university's campus.

- In the summer of 1980, two recruits were employed by a booster in order to assist the young men in paying the costs to attend the Clemson football camp. So what? The booster was helping them gain money in order to pay for camp. If this was an infraction why not just go ahead and pay for the camp instead of giving the kids a job. You'd end up in the same place.

I'm not going to lie and say we didn't deserve the NCAA punishments but by no means should we have gotten the extra two years from the ACC. Taken as a whole, it's not the best slate, but does it add up to a "bought and paid for championship"? Not even close, especially considering that most of the really bad violations seem to have taken place prior to 1980. There is also no proof that players who may have been given favors or cash were in any way responsible for the Tigers' success in 1981.
 
I apologize for my one misspelled word. I have addressed and fixed the issue. I also apologize for stating every football player has rubbed the rock, because it is a lie. But I guess we all forget things at some point, maybe like forgetting your football team didn't start in 2009 (Friendly jab, there is no malice intent in this.. So don't bust a cap..). Howard's Rock is symbolic to the university as for one, it is one of the many faces of Clemson's football program. I'd much rather prefer something that is unique and the only entrance in college football like it, than something that is ultimately a let down and is like most college football entrances (Running out of a tunnel, into clouds of fog. Does it really get your blood pumping knowing your entrance is like most others?!). On account of feeling worthless, I'm sure USC also knows the feeling. Finish a season ranked #4, start the season #9 and then end up going, what was it? 7-6? I too would feel quite devastated continuing to get my 3rd place SEC rings and having a major let down season. But I guess you get used to it eventually. I believe you are very mistaken on the fact Clemson cheated for our national championship. Have you ever actually read the infractions against Clemson? Question. If we cheated to get out national championship, why do we still have it but got sanctioned by the ACC the following two years? I believe that if we did end up cheating to gain a national championship, we wouldn't have one. Reasons why we didn't cheat to gain a natty are listed below:

(Before I continue this list I would like to point out something. Most of the "terrible" violations happened prior to the 1980 season) (Giving a ride to a recruit anywhere, even from his HS to home, is a violation. This is one that has occurred at Clemson and SC in recent memory.) If you would care to read the FULL list, have at it.

- Paying two prospective student athletes ($500 a piece). This was not a coach of any kind, it was a Clemson booster in Knoxville. In the end these two guys never even enrolled at Clemson. Neither even got into a Div 1 program.

- a former assistant football coach and a representative of the university's athletic interests offered to provide the mother of a prospective student-athlete transportation to attend the university's football games during her son's enrollment. What is this crap. Are you kidding me?! She didn't even have a vehicle to drive herself.. AND the guy that would have driven her was a former coach.. Ridiculous.

- In February 1981, the head football coach offered to help find a job for a recruit's mother. (The first of two accounts of Danny Ford being accused of having direct involvement)

- In the spring and summer of 1979, a former assistant football coach arranged for a recruit to receive medical examinations and treatment for an ankle injury at no cost to the young man.

- During the 1978-79 academic year, a former assistant football coach gave a recruit cash to pay the necessary fee to take a college entrance examination. Are you kidding me? If this is considered "buying a player" then this is the poorest definition there is. Paying for the kid to take an entrance exam. Really?!

- In the fall of 1979, a former assistant football coach gave a white sport shirt to a prospective student-athlete, and numerous recruits have been provided T-shirts, football jerseys or souvenir photographs during visits to the university's campus,

- April 1980, the head football coach, director of athletics and dean of student affairs arranged for the university to pay the cost of a dental bill on behalf of a student-athlete. (The only other mention of Ford having a direct involvement)

- In the fall of 1981 and again in late February 1982, an assistant football coach telephoned the father of a recruit, which were reasonably interpreted a being request to provide the NCAA false
information concerning his son's recruitment by the university. Cam Newton ring a bell?

- In the fall of the 1980-81 academic year, an assistant football coach provided a recruit's father round-trip automobile transportation between his home and the university at the time he accompanied his son on an official paid visit to the university; further, the coach filed a false mileage reimbursement receipt with the university concerning this transportation.

- In spring of '79, an assistant football coach contacted a recruit for recruiting purposes at the young man's high school outside the permissible period for in-person recruiting contacts. Again it happened in 1980 several times and in Sept. 1981. (This still happens today)

- In the fall of 1979, an assistant football coach provided round-trip automobile transportation for a friend of a recruit to accompany the prospect on his official paid visit to the university.What.. A friend.. Are you serious..

- In the summer of 1981, an assistant football coach and a high school coach arranged for a recruit to be provided automobile transportation to attend the university's summer football camp. WHAT?!

- In the fall of 1979, a recruit was timed running the 40-yard dash by a former assistant football coach.

- In December 1978, a former assistant football coach arranged for a recruit to be employed by a booster prior to the completion of the young man's senior year in high school. (Probably left with Pell)

- During the 1980-81 and 1981-82 academic years, the university's football coaching staff entertained prospective and enrolled student-athletes off campus at a restaurant located outside of Clemson, South Carolina. Oh no!

- In July 1980, an assistant football coach gave cash to a high school assistant football coach to reimburse the coach for expenses incurred while transporting two recruits to the university's summer football camp. I really don't understand how some of these things are violations.

- In January 1981, an assistant football coach permitted a student-athlete to use his automobile to transport a recruit during his official paid visit to the university. This continues to happen everywhere. A recruit is assigned a host, and if he has no car of his own, he must borrow one or rent one.

- In December 1980, a former assistant football coach permitted two recruits to use his personal automobile during their official paid visits to the university

- In November 1979, an assistant football coach provided his automobile to a student hostess in order to transport a recruit during his official paid visit.

- During the 1980-81 academic year, individuals who were not enrolled in the university served as hosts for recruits on their official paid visits to the university.

- During the 1980-81 academic year, a recruit was provided four official paid visits to the university's campus.

- In July 1980, two recruits attended the university's summer football camp for one day at no cost to either young man. Watch out. They got a free day, it's not like schools continue to do this.

- On three occasions during the 1980-81 academic year, a booster entertained a recruit for a meal.

- In October 1980, a booster gave a student hostess cash for her gasoline expenses to transport a recruit from his home to the university's campus.

- In the summer of 1980, two recruits were employed by a booster in order to assist the young men in paying the costs to attend the Clemson football camp. So what? The booster was helping them gain money in order to pay for camp. If this was an infraction why not just go ahead and pay for the camp instead of giving the kids a job. You'd end up in the same place.

I'm not going to lie and say we didn't deserve the NCAA punishments but by no means should we have gotten the extra two years from the ACC. Taken as a whole, it's not the best slate, but does it add up to a "bought and paid for championship"? Not even close, especially considering that most of the really bad violations seem to have taken place prior to 1980. There is also no proof that players who may have been given favors or cash were in any way responsible for the Tigers' success in 1981.
That was really unnecessary.....no one here cares about your sordid past.....just saying.
 
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LOL! Typical clemmy response. I swear clemmy must have written the mafia handbook. Regardless of the evidence that shows your guilt...deny, deny, deny.
 
I apologize for my one misspelled word. I have addressed and fixed the issue. I also apologize for stating every football player has rubbed the rock, because it is a lie. But I guess we all forget things at some point, maybe like forgetting your football team didn't start in 2009 (Friendly jab, there is no malice intent in this.. So don't bust a cap..). Howard's Rock is symbolic to the university as for one, it is one of the many faces of Clemson's football program. I'd much rather prefer something that is unique and the only entrance in college football like it, than something that is ultimately a let down and is like most college football entrances (Running out of a tunnel, into clouds of fog. Does it really get your blood pumping knowing your entrance is like most others?!). On account of feeling worthless, I'm sure USC also knows the feeling. Finish a season ranked #4, start the season #9 and then end up going, what was it? 7-6? I too would feel quite devastated continuing to get my 3rd place SEC rings and having a major let down season. But I guess you get used to it eventually. I believe you are very mistaken on the fact Clemson cheated for our national championship. Have you ever actually read the infractions against Clemson? Question. If we cheated to get out national championship, why do we still have it but got sanctioned by the ACC the following two years? I believe that if we did end up cheating to gain a national championship, we wouldn't have one. Reasons why we didn't cheat to gain a natty are listed below:

(Before I continue this list I would like to point out something. Most of the "terrible" violations happened prior to the 1980 season) (Giving a ride to a recruit anywhere, even from his HS to home, is a violation. This is one that has occurred at Clemson and SC in recent memory.) If you would care to read the FULL list, have at it.

- Paying two prospective student athletes ($500 a piece). This was not a coach of any kind, it was a Clemson booster in Knoxville. In the end these two guys never even enrolled at Clemson. Neither even got into a Div 1 program.

- a former assistant football coach and a representative of the university's athletic interests offered to provide the mother of a prospective student-athlete transportation to attend the university's football games during her son's enrollment. What is this crap. Are you kidding me?! She didn't even have a vehicle to drive herself.. AND the guy that would have driven her was a former coach.. Ridiculous.

- In February 1981, the head football coach offered to help find a job for a recruit's mother. (The first of two accounts of Danny Ford being accused of having direct involvement)

- In the spring and summer of 1979, a former assistant football coach arranged for a recruit to receive medical examinations and treatment for an ankle injury at no cost to the young man.

- During the 1978-79 academic year, a former assistant football coach gave a recruit cash to pay the necessary fee to take a college entrance examination. Are you kidding me? If this is considered "buying a player" then this is the poorest definition there is. Paying for the kid to take an entrance exam. Really?!

- In the fall of 1979, a former assistant football coach gave a white sport shirt to a prospective student-athlete, and numerous recruits have been provided T-shirts, football jerseys or souvenir photographs during visits to the university's campus,

- April 1980, the head football coach, director of athletics and dean of student affairs arranged for the university to pay the cost of a dental bill on behalf of a student-athlete. (The only other mention of Ford having a direct involvement)

- In the fall of 1981 and again in late February 1982, an assistant football coach telephoned the father of a recruit, which were reasonably interpreted a being request to provide the NCAA false
information concerning his son's recruitment by the university. Cam Newton ring a bell?

- In the fall of the 1980-81 academic year, an assistant football coach provided a recruit's father round-trip automobile transportation between his home and the university at the time he accompanied his son on an official paid visit to the university; further, the coach filed a false mileage reimbursement receipt with the university concerning this transportation.

- In spring of '79, an assistant football coach contacted a recruit for recruiting purposes at the young man's high school outside the permissible period for in-person recruiting contacts. Again it happened in 1980 several times and in Sept. 1981. (This still happens today)

- In the fall of 1979, an assistant football coach provided round-trip automobile transportation for a friend of a recruit to accompany the prospect on his official paid visit to the university.What.. A friend.. Are you serious..

- In the summer of 1981, an assistant football coach and a high school coach arranged for a recruit to be provided automobile transportation to attend the university's summer football camp. WHAT?!

- In the fall of 1979, a recruit was timed running the 40-yard dash by a former assistant football coach.

- In December 1978, a former assistant football coach arranged for a recruit to be employed by a booster prior to the completion of the young man's senior year in high school. (Probably left with Pell)

- During the 1980-81 and 1981-82 academic years, the university's football coaching staff entertained prospective and enrolled student-athletes off campus at a restaurant located outside of Clemson, South Carolina. Oh no!

- In July 1980, an assistant football coach gave cash to a high school assistant football coach to reimburse the coach for expenses incurred while transporting two recruits to the university's summer football camp. I really don't understand how some of these things are violations.

- In January 1981, an assistant football coach permitted a student-athlete to use his automobile to transport a recruit during his official paid visit to the university. This continues to happen everywhere. A recruit is assigned a host, and if he has no car of his own, he must borrow one or rent one.

- In December 1980, a former assistant football coach permitted two recruits to use his personal automobile during their official paid visits to the university

- In November 1979, an assistant football coach provided his automobile to a student hostess in order to transport a recruit during his official paid visit.

- During the 1980-81 academic year, individuals who were not enrolled in the university served as hosts for recruits on their official paid visits to the university.

- During the 1980-81 academic year, a recruit was provided four official paid visits to the university's campus.

- In July 1980, two recruits attended the university's summer football camp for one day at no cost to either young man. Watch out. They got a free day, it's not like schools continue to do this.

- On three occasions during the 1980-81 academic year, a booster entertained a recruit for a meal.

- In October 1980, a booster gave a student hostess cash for her gasoline expenses to transport a recruit from his home to the university's campus.

- In the summer of 1980, two recruits were employed by a booster in order to assist the young men in paying the costs to attend the Clemson football camp. So what? The booster was helping them gain money in order to pay for camp. If this was an infraction why not just go ahead and pay for the camp instead of giving the kids a job. You'd end up in the same place.

I'm not going to lie and say we didn't deserve the NCAA punishments but by no means should we have gotten the extra two years from the ACC. Taken as a whole, it's not the best slate, but does it add up to a "bought and paid for championship"? Not even close, especially considering that most of the really bad violations seem to have taken place prior to 1980. There is also no proof that players who may have been given favors or cash were in any way responsible for the Tigers' success in 1981.
A rock gets you excited. Got ya.
 
For anyone who thinks Howard's Rock is stupid solely based off that it is only a rock, you'd be right. But although it is just a rock, it represents the history throughout the school. Every football player that ever has and ever will play at Clemson will rub the rock and run down the hill.

On the side of the trial being stupid, I can get where you're coming from but vandalism is vandalism. It's university property so of course it would be counted as vandalism..

EDIT: Since my words were mistaken, I will change it to "Every football player that played for Howard and every football player since then did/will rub the rock and run down the hill."
I don't know, it seems a little strange to see a bunch of 20 year olds affectionately rub a rock now known as Howard's Crack a they sashay down a hill, even stranger to see 80,000 orange clad fans get off watching such decadence.
 
This rock needs extra security and protection because after all it is..........a rock..........and anyone who breaks a rock.....well just think before you do it. It could have been a very valuable door stop and tossed out before someone realized it's true value and placed it under glass. WTF......

The case of Micah Rogers, 20, will be heard in Pickens. Rogers is charged with grand larceny and malicious injury to property of more than $10,000. He could face up to 20 years in jail.

Since the incident, security around the rock has been increased.

http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article27892546.html
well regardless of what it is vandalism needs to be nipped in the bud!
 
Where are we as a society when someone can get 20 years for this kind of vandalism? A $10,000 rock? Geez.
I guess the moral of the story is don't mess with Clemson. They will keep it out of court until they get a self serving law retroactive to the case. Magistrate's court for jumping a fence and breaking a rock. Nope. Big Boy court where he is facing GRAND LARCENY and MALICIOUS INJURY to property (a rock) of $10000 or more. I mean...... a rock, we're talking about a rock. It's a rock. A rock. It's not a diamond, it's a rock. I'm talking about a rock...........
 
He should have the trial moved somewhere else. He'll never get a fair trial in Pickens County.
 
Where are we as a society when someone can get 20 years for this kind of vandalism? A $10,000 rock? Geez.
I guess the moral of the story is don't mess with Clemson. They will keep it out of court until they get a self serving law retroactive to the case. Magistrate's court for jumping a fence and breaking a rock. Nope. Big Boy court where he is facing GRAND LARCENY and MALICIOUS INJURY to property (a rock) of $10000 or more. I mean...... a rock, we're talking about a rock. It's a rock. A rock. It's not a diamond, it's a rock. I'm talking about a rock...........

As much as I enjoyed seeing their prized & sacred rock being mutilated and desecrated by a clemmons fan, I have to agree with you that the possible penalties are over the top. If this same guy had broken into a fenced in backyard and vandalized and then stole a rock sitting on a table, it would have never made the news, but in essence, the two crimes would have been quite similar. I hope this somehow blows up in clemmons face, it would serve them right!
 
Where are we as a society when someone can get 20 years for this kind of vandalism? A $10,000 rock? Geez.
I guess the moral of the story is don't mess with Clemson. They will keep it out of court until they get a self serving law retroactive to the case. Magistrate's court for jumping a fence and breaking a rock. Nope. Big Boy court where he is facing GRAND LARCENY and MALICIOUS INJURY to property (a rock) of $10000 or more. I mean...... a rock, we're talking about a rock. It's a rock. A rock. It's not a diamond, it's a rock. I'm talking about a rock...........

Evidently, the assistant solicitor and a sports memorabilia appraiser think Howard's Rock is worth more than $10K.

"The rock is worth far more than dirt", said Baker Cleveland, assistant solicitor for the 13th Judicial Circuit.

He will call an expert sports memorabilia appraiser who values the chunk of rock at between $32,000 and $132,000 and the entire rock as up to $1 million.

Cleveland said Clemson University never plans to sell the rock but that does not lessen the potential value of the quartz that has nationwide interest.

http://www.independentmail.com/news/attorneys-argue-value-of-howards-rock-as-trial-begins_02973216
 
This leads one to believe that just about everything about this little Pickens County school is something phony and made to look real, illegal or untruthful. The rock, the 81 championship, drug use , rape, mysterious deaths, woman beatings, credit card thefts, etc. etc. etc. Yes there's something about them dar hills.
 
You know what would have been hilarious? If he would have put a cinder block under the parts of the rock he didn't take.
 
Bhaahahaaahhhabhhaha.....denial runs deep in taterland.

Nobody whom lived in the Upstate at that time didn't know that Clemson was cheating to high heaven.....see auto dealership, no show jobs and loaner cars from Easley...<cough, cough>

Taters should just shut up about that infamous era and just thank the heavens that the NCAA discovered your blatant cheating before they discovered SMUs or you would be a tech school maybe playing in the South Atlantic Conference conference with Mars Hill.

SMU alumni hate Clemson because they got the death penalty which Clemson deserved.
 
Evidently, the assistant solicitor and a sports memorabilia appraiser think Howard's Rock is worth more than $10K.

"The rock is worth far more than dirt", said Baker Cleveland, assistant solicitor for the 13th Judicial Circuit.

He will call an expert sports memorabilia appraiser who values the chunk of rock at between $32,000 and $132,000 and the entire rock as up to $1 million.

Cleveland said Clemson University never plans to sell the rock but that does not lessen the potential value of the quartz that has nationwide interest.

http://www.independentmail.com/news/attorneys-argue-value-of-howards-rock-as-trial-begins_02973216


Damn taters stole that crap rock from a national forest. It's worth zero dollars and no cents.
 
You know what would have been hilarious? If he would have put a cinder block under the parts of the rock he didn't take.

What would really be hilarious is if the judge decided that since the rock was removed illegally from a Nat'l park, it should be returned, and then the school should be charged with receiving stolen property!! But, I'm betting the judge will be wearing orange underwear with white tiger paws on it when sentences poor Micah Rogers to 20yrs in prison for desecrating their $1mil dollar door stop.

This story is just getting beyond ridiculous.

PS- To the OP, you can edit the title of this thread if want to correct the spelling error. Go back to your original post and the command should be just above the text box, and to the left of the "post new thread" command.
 
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