All SC products. We can probably compete for in-state 5-star players because we have the lure of them being able to play close to their families. 6-7 teams that pull in (4) 5-star out-of-state players in their very next recruiting class should raise the eye brows of the NCAA, but it doesn't for some teams. I cannot recall a single year where SC produced (4) 5-star players in one year, so we are never going to be able to recruit at that level unless we play by the same rules they play by. It's like always driving the speed limit on the interstate because that is the rule, and everyone else who breaks the rule leaves you in the dust. That is what has happened in our state. Clemson has always shown what they are willing to do to get ahead, and they do it. They may compete honestly in all other sports , but they have put all of their eggs in the football basket that feeds all others. I am not advocating that we blatantly cheat, but there is a time, just like on the highway, when it is adviseable to break the speed limit to keep from getting run over.