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Interesting that people who openly voted for and support globalism, now have an issue with globalism.
Really? Please clarify.
In this country, conglomerates swallow (or take a bite out of) others all the time for various reasons independent of profit (e.g. create/squash competition, etc.) Also, our government now leverages immunity for partial control of media and tech companies.
Why is the PGA-LIV scenario any different on a global scale?
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You only like the LIV tour because of the money being thrown around. It's just weird you automatically equate better with cost/wealth.
For me,it’s to fast.it’s like watching regular golf but in fast forward.I like to hear the interactions between golfer and caddy,especially between the leaders.i like the “playing through” .
What is your alternative? The government or presidential administrations picking winners and losers based on the politics of the current occupant of the white house?
What happens if the Saudi’s bail and pull the rug out from under it when they find something better!
I think that’s the most likely scenario at this point - it’s not meant to be a business to make money and there’s really no point to having the top 100 golfers on salary if you aren’t going to use them for something useful.
Everyone keeps saying this outlay of cash is a drop in the bucket for the Saudi’s (and it is), but is this just a power play where the Saudis get to say that they own a bunch of rich white people?
Agree. What is the long term play? Are they really going to invest in growing the game at the youth level?
How does that work? Junior leagues sponsored by the Saudi Royal Family? The South Carolina Junior Golf League underwritten by the Saudi Youth Golf Association? Maybe that will work in some parts of the USA and the world, but I have doubts about overall acceptance.
I think they are playing for the long term. The Saudis want to be accepted on the world stage, but their severe restrictions on freedom and associations with various terrorist groups will always make that an impossibility no matter how many people they pay off.
This is what I’ve heard Tiger Woods will say today in the their meeting:
Only a fully trained PGA Pro, with the PGA as his ally, will conquer LIV and his Emperor. If you end your training now, if you choose the quick and easy path as the others did, you will become an agent of evil.
Only a fully trained PGA Pro, with the PGA as his ally, will conquer LIV and his Emperor. If you end your training now, if you choose the quick and easy path as the others did, you will become an agent of evil.
Yep. China buying up our farmland, placing spy software on US products (DJI drones, TIKTOK, etc.) and reckless virus weapon research seems far more relevant right now than the Saudis buying up golfers.
Speaking of buying farmland, states like Texas and Alabama have rather lax laws related to foreign countries buying farms. Texas is too busy fighting the culture wars to toughen up their laws.
The Saudis don't just buy up golfers. They invest in financial services heavily. Jared Kushner - one of many.
How is this any different than the Hunter Biden business dealings? Russia owns half of South Florida and we aren't talking about that either.
H.R. 7892 is just sitting there. I wonder what either of your two faces has to say about that. Either way, it would be a lie. Of course, Joetato would never enforce such a law against his CCP allies.
I am not sure it is any different other than Hunter Biden isn't a presidential administration employee like Kushner was. Plus, I am not sure anyone can match Kushner's 2 billion.
Russia has been sending women to Miami for a long time just in time to have babies that are American citizens.
It's a $2 Billion Investment Fund allocation. Plus, it was disclosed and is currently being investigated. No one lied to Americans over and over again about it. Those are pretty big distinctions.
Yes- an "allocation" to Kusher's company.
The same Kushner who, as a white house aide, used Whatsapp to communicate with the Saudi dictator.
I am perfectly fine with those attacking Hunter Biden's business dealings (not a government official), as long as they don't try to then defend the business dealings of Trump's family members- even while they worked in the white house.
Back on topic: thought this kinda funny.still a few years away though:
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Isn't that the rub with a lot of these topics though? If LIV was a US organization, there would be little to no concern about them starting a new league and/or competing with the PGA. It would probably be welcomed.
Here is another they just made:
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Back on topic: thought this kinda funny.still a few years away though:
The PGA Tour’s secret weapon in taking on LIV 😂😂😂 | By Rock Bottom Golf | Facebook
45K views, 394 likes, 20 loves, 135 comments, 461 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Rock Bottom Golf: The PGA Tour’s secret weapon in taking on LIV 😂😂😂
patrick Reed has filed a massive lawsuit against Brandel Chamblee. A lawsuit filed by Larry Klayman- a lawyer with a history of doing this and losing.
Nah. I don't think most would welcome a group paying golfers hundreds of millions just to poach them and screw over the existing tour. Espcially if that US organization had any sort of history like Saudi Arabia
in its own scales down way, we are seeing college football totally revamped with the money that has now become totally within the rules and lots of people are complaining about how college football and the tradition of college football is being torn apart
well that also applies to the PGA tour but on a much bigger scale
I could be wrong but I think I read that Norman said that they was full for next year and only would take someone worth while taking.I’m pretty sure they over the limit now and forcing players to sit .Is it safe to assume that some of them are signed for maybe one/two years and won’t be resigned.Will they be left out to dry when that happens?
It's one thing to overpay to get a competitive advantage - with the hopes of creating a new business. That's not happening here. There's literally no end game where the LIV makes money in the next 20 years with their capital outlay today. This is all for something else - and it's being done with the endless Saudi funds.
Maybe but most will have tens of millions in the bank. So I don't know if I would describe that as "left out to dry" but I know what you are saying.
Some players just live for the Majors. That's true now. They don't really care about the other tournaments.
in LIV, you don't really have to care about anything. You get paid massive amounts no matter what.
The LiV Tour will fade but will do harm to the PGA tour.
I just see the guys jumping to the LiV as weak.
I just see the guys jumping to the LiV as weak.
Saw this on golf.com.here is some of the contract requirements that they have to keep up with.
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Here’s what LIV golfers can and can’t do, according to their contracts
Here, according to two LIV player contracts, are some of the rules and restrictions that LIV players are bound by.
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I’m lazy and old, so I should qualify for the LIV tour. I check my mailbox every day to see if the letter comes in.
