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Sorry he did not catch the ball, he fumbled it without possession and threw it to the ground. The officials blew that call too.Apples and Oranges man.
Hillinskis got the ball batted back to him and "caught" the ball before throwing it to the ground. IMHO, he wanted to "control" where the ball went so that no Clemson guy could get to it... He was just a bit too deliberate in what he did.
I'm sure you are trying to figure out why one was incomplete and the other was a fumble. In this case, Hillinski's feet were on the ground, he gained possession of the ball (and here's the important part), and he made a FOOTBALL MOVE (in this case throwing the ball on the ground). I'll post the address of the link below. If you notice, he even caught the ball in both hands, transferred the ball to his right hand and threw it to the ground. Touchdown Tigers!
clicky
BS tater tot. Hilinski has the ball in his hands for 2/10th of a second.Apples and Oranges man.
Hillinskis got the ball batted back to him and "caught" the ball before throwing it to the ground. IMHO, he wanted to "control" where the ball went so that no Clemson guy could get to it... He was just a bit too deliberate in what he did.
I'm sure you are trying to figure out why one was incomplete and the other was a fumble. In this case, Hillinski's feet were on the ground, he gained possession of the ball (and here's the important part), and he made a FOOTBALL MOVE (in this case throwing the ball on the ground). I'll post the address of the link below. If you notice, he even caught the ball in both hands, transferred the ball to his right hand and threw it to the ground. Touchdown Tigers!
clicky
Sorry he did not catch the ball, he fumbled it without possession and threw it to the ground. The officials blew that call too.
Would you accept batted the ball? Go review your own game film. We don't need your critiques.How do you throw it to the ground w/o possession? Hillinski made a freshman mistake.
Hell of a question if you ask me. Man has a point. Answer itWould you accept batted the ball? Go review your own game film. We don't need your critiques.
Clemson's receiver caught the ball in his hands and made 3+ steps with the ball secured in his hands before the OSU player knocked it out. To call that an incomplete pass you have to also say if he continued to run out of bounds with the ball secured the same way it would have been an incomplete pass. I don't think you would agree with the second scenario.Apples and Oranges man.
Hillinskis got the ball batted back to him and "caught" the ball before throwing it to the ground. IMHO, he wanted to "control" where the ball went so that no Clemson guy could get to it... He was just a bit too deliberate in what he did.
I'm sure you are trying to figure out why one was incomplete and the other was a fumble. In this case, Hillinski's feet were on the ground, he gained possession of the ball (and here's the important part), and he made a FOOTBALL MOVE (in this case throwing the ball on the ground). I'll post the address of the link below. If you notice, he even caught the ball in both hands, transferred the ball to his right hand and threw it to the ground. Touchdown Tigers!
clicky
You can see what you want. When the ball was batted back in his hands, he never had possession because the ball was loose and moving around and then was pushed to the ground.
The catch is at :04
The ball is lying solely in the middle of the field at :06
Not a catch in my opinion. Didn't have it long enough, sure his speed took him a good few yards, but clearly did not finish catching the ball. Every other argument I've read against this has not convinced me otherwise. Pretty cut and dry I think and I think they made the right call reversing it, again I don't understand why it wasn't blown dead to begin with.
as for the Mizzo fumble.
QB passes the ball, only for the ball to be swatted by the opposing lineman, QB catches the ball seemingly not understanding that he had to throw the ball forward beyond the line of scrimmage again, he then immediately throws the ball backwards, resulting in a fumble which the opposing team basically picked up in the end zone. QB was the original passer, who passed a ball that didn't go beyond the line of scrimmage. The ball had to be thrown again. The throw QB then made was then clearly tossed backwards,resulting in a fumble that cannot be forwarded from there, but it was a mute point as it was fumbled into the end zone. Again, this is all my understanding of the rule and what happened. I think the refs got that call right as well with the play resulting in a touchdown for Mizzou. Not real sure why OP thought these two plays are similar, I don't see it.
I'm not entirely sure if this is what OP is talking about but it was immediately was popped into my mind.
Cue inflammatory tater! remarks.....go!
You can see what you want. When the ball was batted back in his hands, he never had possession because the ball was loose and moving around and then was pushed to the ground.
BS tater tot. Hilinski has the ball in his hands for 2/10th of a second.
BS part 2.Tater Tot or not, He is correct and so was the official's call.
LMAO! Not true. It was clearly a catch and a pass. It was the right call then and in looking back now- a complete airhead moment by a young QB.Sorry he did not catch the ball, he fumbled it without possession and threw it to the ground. The officials blew that call too.
LMAO! Not true. It was clearly a catch and a pass. It was the right call then and in looking back now- a complete airhead moment by a young QB.
Not an airhead moment; split second mistake.LMAO! Not true. It was clearly a catch and a pass. It was the right call then and in looking back now- a complete airhead moment by a young QB.
He can’t throw it to the ground if he did not have possession. But who cares? They took place in 2 separate games, one that had meaning and one that didn’t. Why is a comparison even made? The Tigers won, period. No discussion on chat boards is gonna change that, and there won’t be an asterisks by the W.Sorry he did not catch the ball, he fumbled it without possession and threw it to the ground. The officials blew that call too.