charlie hustle applies 4 reinstatement ...
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I can't make up my mind if I want him re-instated or not. And I know my opinion does not matter. LOL! But, to be honest I don't know what is fair in this case. He did deny for many years that he didn't bet on baseball. So, the cover up is worst than the actual crime in some cases. Just sayin.............
This post was edited on 3/16 4:23 PM by Freddie.B.Cocky
This post was edited on 3/16 10:08 PM by Freddie.B.Cocky
I know where yer comin' from, but he did finally come clean. As a player he deserves it much more than some of the others that have gotten in recently. AND the fact he did not do it as a player.
In my opinion, not having the all-time hits leader in the Hall of Fame is a crime against baseball. That being said, I don't think he'll ever be reinstated while he's alive. Once he's gone and memories have had time to fade, he might be let back in (though that hasn't really helped Shoeless Joe).
But, he committed one of baseball's Cardinal Sins. Has any former MLB player ever been re-instated after such an egergious acts?
pepsicock
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Unless they can prove he bet while played or on any game he managed, Charlie Hustle be longs in the hall. N steroids just stupidity for a time. If A- Rod can redeem himself and play as a known admitted cheater, Rose should go in the hall. Period
yes Freddie one of the greatest mgrs of all time, leo "the lip" durocher...
was only suspended for 4 a yr for hanging around known ny gamblers. Not as a player mind u, but as a mgr.
leo lived the ny high life while managing both brooklyn & later ny giants....btw he continued his life style while coachin' on the west coast.
i only rememeber leo after his suspension but luved him for the baseball man he was! What a great mgr.
was only suspended for 4 a yr for hanging around known ny gamblers. Not as a player mind u, but as a mgr.
leo lived the ny high life while managing both brooklyn & later ny giants....btw he continued his life style while coachin' on the west coast.
i only rememeber leo after his suspension but luved him for the baseball man he was! What a great mgr.
I guess he did admit it, a little bit at a time, tried to reveal it bit by bit trying to find a threshold where it would be enough to get him in. My vote is keep him out.
Datum it tree I do remember that. Still, I think with all the asterisks and crap BBC has gone through he should at least be entitled to an up or down vote. He was just that good. JMO
He bet on baseball...doesn't matter when or where. Very few absolutes but that is one of them.
NEVER LET HIM IN!!!
NEVER LET HIM IN!!!
How do we know that Rose only bet on the Reds to win? Is it his word only, or is there documentation to support his claim? If there is no verification he only bet on wins, I can't go along with voting him back into baseball and hence the Hall.
With the crap that gets overlooked in professional sports today, his punishment far exceeds his crime. Let "Charlie Hustle" in!
Every year in spring training, each team has a compliance day. In that meeting, every eligible must attend. They read the rules. When they read Rule 21, the compliance officer states the punishment is an automatic ban for life. Its the only such rule in baseball. To fulfill the eligibility requirement, each player must sign the document, indicating they willingly accept its punishment.
I think bookies have confirmed this. If fact I remember a story where the bookie used this info, when Rose did not bet on the Reds, he would bet against the Reds.
I know of 5 people who playing professional sports who have been convicted of killing someone. You also have oj who is in the nfl hall of fame. For crying out loud let Pete Rose in
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anon_n4c0cp5zhdxn7
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But none of those are baseball players. As someone awhile back stated, baseball holds to it's traditions and rules much more than the other professional sports.
I agree that betting on baseball, as far as society at large is concerned, is a minor offense compared to what many athletes get away with. But as far as baseball itself is concerned, gambling on the game by players and managers more directly effects the integrity of the game, and by extension, the game's survival as a sport, than any other offense. MLB isn't saying Pete Rose is worse than OJ Simpson or Ray Rice. But they are saying that gambling on the game while involved with the game can potentially lead to MLB's downfall since it directly effects fans' trust in the game. As bad as steroids users and cheaters are, at least fans know those guys are trying to win.
He knew exactly what he was doing and the risk he was taking when he bet on baseball.....I'm glad he finally came clean on it but he broke one of the cardinal rules! You don't bet on baseball.......I like Pete and admire his accomplishments but we have to have rules and that one was a big one and he took the risk and got caught.....
If he wanted to be in HOF he should have decided if the wager was worth the risk.....Of course he is sorry now...why? Because he got caught.....
If he wanted to be in HOF he should have decided if the wager was worth the risk.....Of course he is sorry now...why? Because he got caught.....
Yea teach Pete a lesson. Good thing OJ didn't mess up like Pete did. He wouldn't have gotten in the NFL hall of fame.
But, was OJ already in the football HOF before he committed those crimes? I don't know what the policy is for committing such crimes after a player has been inducted into the HOF. For my money, it would be great if OJ was thrown out of the HOF.
But, we are talking about baseball, not any other pro sport. And again, baseball holds to their traditions and rules more closely than the other pro sports.
USCBatgirl21
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Shoeless Joe deserves to be let in before Charlie Hustle. No Shoeless Joe? No Hustle.
It is that simple. No further discussion needed.
This post was edited on 3/20 5:11 AM by USCBatgirl21
It is that simple. No further discussion needed.
This post was edited on 3/20 5:11 AM by USCBatgirl21
