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I always said if I ever started paying attention to everyone's politics I would never watch another movie, listen to any music, or follow any sports. The only thing this does is promote her stance even more.
 
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I always said if I ever started paying attention to everyone's politics I would never watch another movie, listen to any music, or follow any sports. The only thing this does is promote her stance even more.

I don't like Jon Voight's politics. He talks politics a lot and shares his views openly. He's largely celebrated in Conservative circles for doing so. He's appeared regularly on right leaning outlets because they reach out to him (the same outlets who have hosts saying actors with liberal views should stay in their lane).

I love every Jon Voight movie I see- and I'll go out of my way to watch him anytime a movie of his is on TCM. It's appointment viewing in my house.
 
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I swear there is a piece of paper with writing and a bunch of signatures on it that I swore to defend all those years I was in the Army, and the reason I defended that piece of paper was so each and every American's rights were protected. I myself am a middle of the road person who has conservative and progressive views, but it does irritate me when one side expects everyone to believe as they do and the other side gets carried away with their ideas. Political parties should be eliminated and anyone that runs for office and places interests other than that of the nation first, should have to serve 2yrs in prison without a trail
 
It's the Hollywood effect. Once you have fame, you're now an expert on everything.

I would love to get Dawn's take on why she believes the Biden and Obama administrations were good on any level whatsoever.

Walk us through that policy Dawn. "He's "so cool" isn't going to cut it.

That "cool guy" who promised to transform and bring America together did little but enrich himself and bankers while causing divide with identity-based politics.

Also, why would Michelle Obama be a good president? Because she was married to one? Geez.

Very silly takes.

However, we're in America and she has every right to voice them even though she's supporting those who don't believe we should have that right. The irony.
 
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I swear there is a piece of paper with writing and a bunch of signatures on it that I swore to defend all those years I was in the Army, and the reason I defended that piece of paper was so each and every American's rights were protected. I myself am a middle of the road person who has conservative and progressive views, but it does irritate me when one side expects everyone to believe as they do and the other side gets carried away with their ideas. Political parties should be eliminated and anyone that runs for office and places interests other than that of the nation first, should have to serve 2yrs in prison without a trail
Then you must be pretty ****ing irritated with the Democratic side, right? Because I signed a paper just like that……
 
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I'm f****** irriated with both sides. This is not the political scene I grew up in. The political scene I grew up in, while there were differences, they sat down like adults and came to a compromise.
I've voted for both sides over the years. However, it's crystal clear to me and most right now that there are some very unsavory individuals currently running our country. There's no way to justify some of the things that have happened under this administration.
 
I've voted for both sides over the years. However, it's crystal clear to me and most right now that there are some very unsavory individuals currently running our country. There's no way to justify some of the things that have happened under this administration.
Bad part is....... They (demonrats) can now PICK anyone they choose to run. Biden won pretty much all the votes in the Primaries, now they are telling him to Drop out, so they (not America) can decide who they wish to run for POTUS!! Typical Democrats..
 
You need help LOL! Mr. Socialist/Commiefornia boy. I have a big boat that chugs gas but, I love EV’s. Fuq off

I'm going to chalk your response up to not being able to comment on the topic you started "I have nothing else to add so I am just going to insult you and attack you"

I'm fine with that.
 
Bad part is....... They (demonrats) can now PICK anyone they choose to run. Biden won pretty much all the votes in the Primaries, now they are telling him to Drop out, so they (not America) can decide who they wish to run for POTUS!! Typical Democrats..
That's not what every poll of Democrats is showing.

Primaries are mostly designed now to pick the person the party elite want.

In 2020, Republicans didn't even have a primary in some states, including South Carolina, when Trump was running for reelection. They did the same for George HW Bush and George W Bush. Democrats did the same in some states when Clinton and Obama ran for reelection.

So, I don't think it's fair to say that Democrats on the whole picked Joe Biden. Some Democrats picked him because he was mostly the only choice. In some states, the % of Democrats voting in their own primary was tiny. The majority of Democrat voters didn't participate in the process.

Democrats have been pretty consistent for awhile now that they'd prefer another candidate. So, I don't think encouraging him to drop out at this point is any earth shattering surprise. In most ways, it's the only way to make sure Democrats get to pick someone else- which is what all polls show Democrat voters want to happen.
 
Bad part is....... They (demonrats) can now PICK anyone they choose to run. Biden won pretty much all the votes in the Primaries, now they are telling him to Drop out, so they (not America) can decide who they wish to run for POTUS!! Typical Democrats..

In my opinion, Biden and Kamala were hand-picked by Obama, Intel and the Corporate Conglomerate in 2020 to be cardboard cutouts for their agenda and they played the perfect role for the Kleptocracy. What they didn't anticipate was Biden completely malfunctioning before this next election and now that Kamala's VP role is nothing but a burden to them. They'll find a way to ditch her for someone like Whitmer and hope that their 2020 tactics plus the immigration vote (amazing) will overcome Trump.

The problem is that everyone is hip to the mail-in ballot fraud now and the Republicans are going to have a ton of staff (including lawyers) overseeing it this time. Biden's record has been terrible and Trump is on a roll so I can't imagine he doesn't win unless he finds a way to screw it up because he can be his own worst enemy at times.

We need better candidates though. Desantis would have been great and has done an amazing job in Florida. I had to goto a convention in Miami not too long ago and that place is completely different from the last time I was there. It's too bad he's not as good as they politician crap as he is a leader because both sides of the aisle really like the guy down there.
 
In my opinion, Biden and Kamala were hand-picked by Obama, Intel and the Corporate Conglomerate in 2020 to be cardboard cutouts for their agenda and they played the perfect role for the Kleptocracy. What they didn't anticipate was Biden completely malfunctioning before this next election and now that Kamala's VP role is nothing but a burden to them. They'll find a way to ditch her for someone like Whitmer and hope that their 2020 tactics plus the immigration vote (amazing) will overcome Trump.

The problem is that everyone is hip to the mail-in ballot fraud now and the Republicans are going to have a ton of staff (including lawyers) overseeing it this time. Biden's record has been terrible and Trump is on a roll so I can't imagine he doesn't win unless he finds a way to screw it up because he can be his own worst enemy at times.

We need better candidates though. Desantis would have been great and has done an amazing job in Florida. I had to goto a convention in Miami not too long ago and that place is completely different from the last time I was there. It's too bad he's not as good as they politician crap as he is a leader because both sides of the aisle really like the guy down there.
So much nonsense here it's hard to decipher

Obama didn't want Joe Biden to run for president and was clear about that. Numerous reports at the time said he tried to talk him out of it and he told other people that he tried to talk him out it hoping to apply behind the scenes pressure. If Obama was picking someone (he wasn't), there are several others he would have picked ahead of Biden.

Mail in ballots have been happening for years. Nothing new about it. Nothing fraudulent about them. Many Republicans have been elected on the basis of mail in ballots.

I agree we need better candidates.

if Democrats could pick someone, they'd likely pick a President and VP from the group of Mark Kelly, Wes Moore, Josh Shapiro, Grethen Whitmer.
 
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So much nonsense here it's hard to decipher

Obama didn't want Joe Biden to run for president and was clear about that. Numerous reports at the time said he tried to talk him out of it and he told other people that he tried to talk him out it hoping to apply behind the scenes pressure. If Obama was picking someone (he wasn't), there are several others he would have picked ahead of Biden.

Mail in ballots have been happening for years. Nothing new about it. Nothing fraudulent about them.

if Democrats could pick someone, they'd likely pick a President and VP from the group of Mark Kelly, Wes Moore, Josh Shapiro, Grethen Whitmer.
It wasn't only Obama's decision. They needed a weak leader and they picked one.

Also, I would think you would be hip to misdirection given how much has come from this administration. Obama has openly stated he would like to have had a 3rd term by giving directions to the president via a microphone.

There are videos of workers stuffing the ballot box. Why do we need mail-in ballots when all it does it muddy the waters? It's a Democratic thing.

Seriously, what do you like about this administration? They've done almost everything backwards and against America.
 
It wasn't only Obama's decision. They needed a weak leader and they picked one.

Also, I would think you would be hip to misdirection given how much has come from this administration. Obama has openly stated he would like to have had a 3rd term by giving directions to the president via a microphone.

There are videos of workers stuffing the ballot box. Why do we need mail-in ballots when all it does it muddy the waters? It's a Democratic thing.

Seriously, what do you like about this administration? They've done almost everything backwards and against America.

Save your breath. Dave has demonstrated time and time again that he has zero critical thinking skills. Literally zero.

He's the ideal voter for this current admin.
 
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It wasn't only Obama's decision. They needed a weak leader and they picked one.

Also, I would think you would be hip to misdirection given how much has come from this administration. Obama has openly stated he would like to have had a 3rd term by giving directions to the president via a microphone.

There are videos of workers stuffing the ballot box. Why do we need mail-in ballots when all it does it muddy the waters? It's a Democratic thing.

Seriously, what do you like about this administration? They've done almost everything backwards and against Americans.

It wasn't Obama's decision at all. He didn't want Biden to run. That's not a secret. It's one reason their relationship is a bit strained now and a reason Biden hates all of Obama's advisors like David Axelrod because Axelrod was always on tv at the time discouraging Biden's prospects. Axelrod and Obama are close.

Obama doesn't give directions to Biden "via microphone" My God. How utterly stupid. No one with an ounce of brain power believes Biden could 1) pull that off 2) Obama would do such a stupid thing which would be impossible technically given Biden's limits

Every popular 2 term president would have loved to have had a 3rd term. That's not a revealing fact. That's common sense.

There aren't videos of workers "stuffing ballot boxes." Totally, 100% lie. As I have said before, if it was true, it would have been damn easy to prove it in court in front of Republican (some Trump appointed) judges. It wasn't true. It was made up by nut jobs on social media lying through their teeth for clicks and publicity.

Many states have used mail in ballots for years and years. There are examples of men voting from home going back to the 17th century. The Civil War saw tens of thousands of soldiers voting in camps, hospitals, on the battlefield, etc.

WW1 saw the military start to use mail in balloting on a large scale.

5 states were already holding entirely mail-in elections before the pandemic—Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah.

29 states and Washington D.C. allowed “no excuse” mail-in absentee voting, and 16 states allowed voters to cast a ballot by mail if they had an excuse. Florida allows every registered voter to vote by mail. Donald Trump voted by mail in Florida.

"Despite claims of vote fraud when voting is conducted outside of polling places, only 0.00006% of the 250 million votes by mailed ballots nationwide were fraudulent, according to MIT political scientists who analyzed numbers from the Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database."
 
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Seriously, what do you like about this administration? They've done almost everything backwards and against America.

There are plenty of things I like and that I don't like. I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden- and won't. Obviously, I'd never vote for Donald Trump either.

I disagree with your characterization, obviously.
 
There are plenty of things I like and that I don't like. I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden- and won't. Obviously, I'd never vote for Donald Trump either.

I disagree with your characterization, obviously.
Please name some.
 
It wasn't Obama's decision at all. He didn't want Biden to run. That's not a secret. It's one reason their relationship is a bit strained now and a reason Biden hates all of Obama's advisors like David Axelrod because Axelrod was always on tv at the time discouraging Biden's prospects. Axelrod and Obama are close.

Obama doesn't give directions to Biden "via microphone" My God. How utterly stupid.

There aren't videos of workers "stuffing ballot boxes." Totally, 100% lie. As I have said before, if it was true, it would have been damn easy to prove it in court in front of Republican (some Trump appointed) judges. It wasn't true. It was made up by nut jobs on social media lying through their teeth for clicks and publicity.

Many states have used mail in ballots for years and years. There are examples of men voting from home going back to the 17th century. The Civil War saw tens of thousands of soldiers voting in camps, hospitals, on the battlefield, etc.

WW1 saw the military start to use mail in balloting on a large scale.

5 states were already holding entirely mail-in elections before the pandemic—Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah.

29 states and Washington D.C. allowed “no excuse” mail-in absentee voting, and 16 states allowed voters to cast a ballot by mail if they had an excuse. Florida allows every registered voter to vote by mail. Donald Trump voted by mail in Florida.

"Despite claims of vote fraud when voting is conducted outside of polling places, only 0.00006% of the 250 million votes by mailed ballots nationwide were fraudulent, according to MIT political scientists who analyzed numbers from the Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database."
Sorry. Disagree with every ounce of this but it's not worth getting into further.
 
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It wasn't Obama's decision at all. He didn't want Biden to run. That's not a secret. It's one reason their relationship is a bit strained now and a reason Biden hates all of Obama's advisors like David Axelrod because Axelrod was always on tv at the time discouraging Biden's prospects. Axelrod and Obama are close.

Obama doesn't give directions to Biden "via microphone" My God. How utterly stupid. No one with an ounce of brain power believes Biden could 1) pull that off 2) Obama would do such a stupid thing which would be impossible technically given Biden's limits

Every popular 2 term president would have loved to have had a 3rd term. That's not a revealing fact. That's common sense.

There aren't videos of workers "stuffing ballot boxes." Totally, 100% lie. As I have said before, if it was true, it would have been damn easy to prove it in court in front of Republican (some Trump appointed) judges. It wasn't true. It was made up by nut jobs on social media lying through their teeth for clicks and publicity.

Many states have used mail in ballots for years and years. There are examples of men voting from home going back to the 17th century. The Civil War saw tens of thousands of soldiers voting in camps, hospitals, on the battlefield, etc.

WW1 saw the military start to use mail in balloting on a large scale.

5 states were already holding entirely mail-in elections before the pandemic—Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah.

29 states and Washington D.C. allowed “no excuse” mail-in absentee voting, and 16 states allowed voters to cast a ballot by mail if they had an excuse. Florida allows every registered voter to vote by mail. Donald Trump voted by mail in Florida.

"Despite claims of vote fraud when voting is conducted outside of polling places, only 0.00006% of the 250 million votes by mailed ballots nationwide were fraudulent, according to MIT political scientists who analyzed numbers from the Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database."

So ridiculous. Republicans would go to VOTER ID today and ditch the mail-in ballots and end the controversy.

Why won't Democrats Dave?
 
Sorry. Disagree with every ounce of this but it's not worth getting into further.

You can disagree all you like.

Anyone that believes ballot boxes were being stuffed with Biden ballots has denied reality too many times. They are lying to themselves and making a fool of themselves over and over again. If someone was going to stuff ballots, they sure wouldn't have let so many Republicans win in 2016. Just nuts crazy

and anyone that thinks Obama is giving Joe Biden instructions via some hidden microphone is nuts. They are past crazy and that's just the fact of the matter.
 
Then why not go to voter ID and end the madness? It's the Democrats who are blocking it.

35 states+ require some form of ID including some Democrat led states. The others require it at registration or when a precinct worker requests it. States run their own elections
 
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35 states+ require some form of ID including some Democrat led states. The others require it at registration or when a precinct worker requests it. States run their own elections
Over 10 million illegals have come across the border since Biden took office.

Every single Democrat also voted for them to have a vote in our elections.

So the people who crossed today cancel out Americans who have been here since birth.

What would that be other than total corruption?
 
Over 10 million illegals have come across the border since Biden took office.

Every single Democrat also voted for them to have a vote in our elections.

So the people who crossed today cancel out people who have been here since birth.

Why would that be other than total corruption?

He's currently wrangling with AI to come up with something and it's not working...
 
Comeon. You're not that gullible. Every single Republican wants voter ID and every single Democrat doesn't. Why is that?

I have no issue with ID. I lost my card years and years ago and always show my license.

As I stated, most states have voter ID. Others require it registration.
 
Over 10 million illegals have come across the border since Biden took office.

Every single Democrat also voted for them to have a vote in our elections.

So the people who crossed today cancel out Americans who have been here since birth.

What would that be other than total corruption?
None of that is true.

It's illegal for non-citizens to vote- actually even register to vote in a federal election- a felony. Nothing new about it.

If Republicans and Democrats at the state level want to prosecute and prove someone registered illegally, they should bring those cases to court. Absolutely. (They almost never do because it's not a thing that has any impact)

probably because....

In 2022, Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, conducted an audit of his state’s voter rolls specifically looking for noncitizens. His office found that 1,634 had attempted to register to vote over a period of 25 years, but election officials had caught all the applications and none had been able to register.

In North Carolina in 2016, an audit of elections found that 41 legal immigrants who had not yet become citizens cast ballots, out of 4.8 million total ballots cast. The votes didn’t make a difference in any of the state’s elections.
 
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None of that is true.

It's illegal for non-citizens to vote- actually even register to vote in a federal election- a felony. Nothing new about it.

If Republicans and Democrats at the state level want to prosecute and prove someone registered illegally, they should bring those cases to court. Absolutely. (They almost never do because it's not thing that has any impact)
I misspoke. 5 had a conscience. How is this not total corruption?



 
I misspoke. 5 had a conscience. How is this not total corruption?
You mean voting to make registering to vote and voting illegal when it's already illegal?

in 1996, the U.S. Congress passed a federal immigration enforcement bill called the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA). Section 611 of IIRAIRA criminalized noncitizen voting in federal elections

Yes, I agree, it's pretty close to corruption to play such stupid political games a few months before an election.

Maybe they can pass a law that says kidnapping is illegal.
 
You mean voting to make registering to vote and voting illegal when it's already illegal?

Yes, I agree, it's pretty close to corruption to play such stupid political games a few months before an election.

Maybe they can pass a law that says kidnapping is illegal.
I don't follow. Are you saying you don't believe this threat by Biden can be pushed through? Why did Congress pass the SAVE Act?
 
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I don't follow. Are you saying you don't believe this threat by Biden can be pushed through? Why did Congress pass the SAVE Act?

My God....

Congress didn't pass it. The House passed it.

No idea what "This threat by Biden can be pushed through" means.

It's already illegal for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. Here is the 1996 law

It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner
 
I don't follow. Are you saying you don't believe this threat by Biden can be pushed through? Why did Congress pass the SAVE Act?

Of course he can push it through.

It was in the news all of last week but Dave is still buried in CNN rhetoric and laws from 1996.
 
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