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Does Will deserve an Extension

If we keep him, yes to keep it at 4 for recruiting. But knock the buyout down below $10M. Even at 5-5, it’s not going to be like he will have other suitors calling, even if Sexton and RichRod float something in the press, it’s not real. USC should have the leverage in the negotiations and reduce that obscene buyout.
This is the way this should be handled. He could lose out the year and not go anywhere at this point. If he wins even 2 more games I’d be all for Tanner doing an extension if (and only if) the buyout is significantly lower next year. At that point you have to start looking at possible replacements and be ready to pull the trigger by week 6 when it becomes obvious it’s a third year in a row of disappointment. Bobo is on a guaranteed deal that pays him 1.2 million next year so you already have your interim coach ready to go so the only focus needs to be on getting the next guy locked in.
 
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If Will goes .500 or better, should he get the obligatory 1 yr extension to his contract? Many coaches have contracts that go well beyond 4 to 5 years. I don’t recall what the original term was on Will’s. Many have a year added every year. I am not talking for more money, just whatever the last year currently would be, he would get that same amount. What say you?
You should be banned for life for posting such filth.
Just kidding.
 
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This is just SO Carolina. We have 2 wins, one of which was over Vandy, and we're talking about a contract extension for a coach who 99% of the fan base would have fired 3 weeks ago.
This is where I am at. Muschamp might still have the ability to prove he's a good coach, but he hasn't done anything here to prove that he should be retained, much less extended. I kind of understand the feeling of "who can we get that's better?", it took a legendary coach being hired to turn the program around previously, and those guys just aren't available. I definitely want an inspired hire, an up and comer type coach instead of a Power 5 retread. Jeff Scott would have been good if he was available but a doubt fans would be behind a former Clemson coach regardless of the success.
 
We didn’t keep him after 4-8 thinking he’d win 8 - 9 games this year. His job would’ve been safe with 7-5. Fans wouldn’t have necessarily liked it, but it’s the truth.
Who is "we"? He almost certain didn't get fired because of that huge buyout as well as the other expenses. 7-5 gets SEC coaches fired after their 5th year.
 
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This is where I am at. Muschamp might still have the ability to prove he's a good coach, but he hasn't done anything here to prove that he should be retained, much less extended. I kind of understand the feeling of "who can we get that's better?", it took a legendary coach being hired to turn the program around previously, and those guys just aren't available. I definitely want an inspired hire, an up and comer type coach instead of a Power 5 retread. Jeff Scott would have been good if he was available but a doubt fans would be behind a former Clemson coach regardless of the success.

If he can show some kind of progress this year from last year then, sure, hold onto him, but extension? Maybe put 2 good years together first.
 
We didn’t keep him after 4-8 thinking he’d win 8 - 9 games this year. His job would’ve been safe with 7-5. Fans wouldn’t have necessarily liked it, but it’s the truth.

I agree. When you bring a coach back after going 4-8, including a loss to App State, you're sending a clear message to the fans. Maybe it'll be an inspired move and Champ will end up being legendary here. I sure hope so. But let's pump the brakes a bit on talk of contract extensions.
 
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I've seen several articles about this topic and after reading them it seems like a pretty sure bet he will not be fired this year and will get another one. The reasons stated most is that it will be very difficult to identify a coach, find one willing to take the job, and the pool is such a mess with so many teams being down (various reasons) it will not be a good year to find a GOOD coach.
 
Will Muschamp is not a good coach and he definitely doesn’t deserve an extension this year. And if Tanner is thinking like that, he needs to be thrown out of his office “with suitcases, and all his personal belongings, then escorted off the premises! What the heck is wrong “With Us”, why are we even entertaining the foolish idea of extending a contract to a proven “loser” 🧐 Can you imagine fans in Hickens County talking like this if they had a coach with the “same record?” Would fans in Athens be saying we need to extend this dude, he’s been here five years and he’s kept us at least 500! No those fan bases would be losing their minds and demanding change “immediately!” Let’s stop the insanity please 🧐
 
Improvement over 4-8 with what was considered a talented team?
I don't get some of you. We are paying a guy $4 mil +/yr to get us to 5-6 wins?
This isn't some charity.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of reasons to part way with Will. It just isn't going to happen. Not with the money issues. And, the win over Auburn, likely locked him up for next year. A singular win over a top 25 team is cause for celebration. Now with the offense showing a pulse under Bobo, he's not going anywhere. If we did fire him, we'd probably promote Bobo.
 
Are we talking about extension cords, or hair extensions? What kind of extensions are we discussing?
If we are serious about extensions, I would go for -4.
That’s Minus Four.
Period.
Over with.
Done.
Scat!
Oh! Edit to cover what I completely missed^...
And take Tannyboy with you too!
 
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If Will goes .500 or better, should he get the obligatory 1 yr extension to his contract? Many coaches have contracts that go well beyond 4 to 5 years. I don’t recall what the original term was on Will’s. Many have a year added every year. I am not talking for more money, just whatever the last year currently would be, he would get that same amount. What say you?
Clemson and our SEC East rivals say yes, absolutely.

So, hell no.
 
He is here for two more years. The Covid kill on our Athletics Department will not allow a buyout. For that we would have to borrow money and that is not going to happen. He has been the Fortuitous beneficiary of an extension and eye popping salary that was oversold to the BOT. Now if he shows real improvement over the remainder of this year and then actually accomplishes something next year we have something to talk about

Short term lets get behind him and quit whining. it is a waste of Energy and builds stress. Long term if he fails to perform lets go get a proven coach!
 
If Will goes .500 or better, should he get the obligatory 1 yr extension to his contract? Many coaches have contracts that go well beyond 4 to 5 years. I don’t recall what the original term was on Will’s. Many have a year added every year. I am not talking for more money, just whatever the last year currently would be, he would get that same amount. What say you?

Stop all this crazy talk!!! It was a bad Auburn team... Let's take the win and enjoy it... But don't give Muschamp an extension... He has a long way to go to prove he is worth 80 million dollars...
 
Tanner has already proven he is no hard ball negotiator, so this is a pipe dream, but,

Yes, give him his one year extension in exchange for a drastic reduction in his buyout.

Then, start immediately building a list of HC prospects for the 2022 season.

(I'm assuming no one in the admin has the balls or money to fire him after this season. And, besides, without a replacement mostly lined up, that would be stupid anyway.)
 
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Tanner has already proven he is no hard ball negotiator, so this is a pipe dream, but,

Yes, give him his one year extension in exchange for a drastic reduction in his buyout.

Then, start immediately building a list of HC prospects for the 2022 season.

(I'm assuming no one in the admin has the balls or money to fire him after this season. And, besides, without a replacement mostly lined up, that would be stupid anyway.)
There's no reason for a coach to accept a reduction in buyout. That's what protects him. All you can do is not increase the buyout.
 
There's no reason for a coach to accept a reduction in buyout. That's what protects him. All you can do is not increase the buyout.
He will be claiming he needs the extra year for recruiting. I.e for the future. However...

If he won't accept a reduction in the buyout, he is (by not negotiating the buyout) signaling he does not believe he can succeed, will be fired anyway, and so he wants the money (looking at the bank account and not the future of the team.)

It is hard ball negotiating, but if he does not agree, then no extra year, win with what you got, or bye bye.
 
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If Will goes .500 or better, should he get the obligatory 1 yr extension to his contract? Many coaches have contracts that go well beyond 4 to 5 years. I don’t recall what the original term was on Will’s. Many have a year added every year. I am not talking for more money, just whatever the last year currently would be, he would get that same amount. What say you?

nope.....let me see what he does the rest of this year and next. If we keep getting better, and win 8 or 9 games next year, then one year max.
 
If we go 5-5, then the typical 1-year extension for recruiting would be expected. And I wouldn't have a problem with it. 5-5 would be a good year from that perspective. 5-5 would equal a 7-5 record in a normal season. And we would get a bowl game.

However, I don't think the 1-year extension should include any changes to his buy-out. That should still keep going down at the same pace (or faster) than the current schedule. 1 year, but no buyout for that year.

But this is just message board material. He's going to be back next year, no matter what. Just like the athletes who get a freebie year. Coach Muschamp is going to get a pass this year, due to the remaining buy-out and COVID-19. You can count on that.
 
But this is just message board material. He's going to be back next year, no matter what. Just like the athletes who get a freebie year. Coach Muschamp is going to get a pass this year, due to the remaining buy-out and COVID-19. You can count on that.
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Improvement over 4-8 with what was considered a talented team?
I don't get some of you. We are paying a guy $4 mil +/yr to get us to 5-6 wins?
This isn't some charity.

You seem to be confusing folks saying Will WOULD not be fired with SHOULD not be fired. I’ll be thrilled when Muschamp is gone. He should’ve been fired last year. He should’ve never have been hired. But no way Ray Tanner would fire him after 7-5.
 
Deserve? No. But he'll probably get one. Hopefully, it will be a token for PR purposes that doesn't increase or delay any possible buyout options.
 
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Deserve? No. But he'll probably get one. Hopefully, it will be a token for PR purposes that doesn't increase or delay any possible buyout options.
Most of us agree he doesn’t deserve one, but he will likely be given one. It was posted earlier about an extension with a lower buyout if he gets fired. If he’s not extended, is it a big deal? Doing so shows publicly that the administration supports him, but I highly doubt it helps with recruiting, as some have mentioned.
 
Most of us agree he doesn’t deserve one, but he will likely be given one. It was posted earlier about an extension with a lower buyout if he gets fired. If he’s not extended, is it a big deal? Doing so shows publicly that the administration supports him, but I highly doubt it helps with recruiting, as some have mentioned.
If he gets one he can continue mediocre (by SEC standards) recruiting. If he doesn't get one, his recruiting might be mediocre.
 
If he gets one he can continue mediocre (by SEC standards) recruiting. If he doesn't get one, his recruiting might be mediocre.
You may very well be right. I was wondering about how many recruits pay attention to a coach’s contact, extension, etc, and whether that take those things into consideration when they commit to a school.
 
If he goes better than .500 this year I would give and extension if he would renegotiate his buyout. If he chooses not to I wouldn’t give and extra year.
 
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You may very well be right. I was wondering about how many recruits pay attention to a coach’s contact, extension, etc, and whether that take those things into consideration when they commit to a school.
The recruits by themselves might not pay attention to it, but it will be pointed out by other schools also trying to recruit the kid.
 
If Will goes .500 or better, should he get the obligatory 1 yr extension to his contract? Many coaches have contracts that go well beyond 4 to 5 years. I don’t recall what the original term was on Will’s. Many have a year added every year. I am not talking for more money, just whatever the last year currently would be, he would get that same amount. What say you?

Uh, u do realize that’s a tough physical procedure?
 
If Will goes .500 or better, should he get the obligatory 1 yr extension to his contract? Many coaches have contracts that go well beyond 4 to 5 years. I don’t recall what the original term was on Will’s. Many have a year added every year. I am not talking for more money, just whatever the last year currently would be, he would get that same amount. What say you?

Please.............
 
No. I wouldn't give an extension or raise to any of the coaches even if we went 8-2. He needs to show sustained success. And the buyout needs to keep going down until it goes away. We should never be in that position with a buyout again with Muschamp or any other coach.
 
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