Fist off, as a mixed race person living in s.c., born here and lived here for almost 50 years. the flag debate is not worth debating. The flag does stand for hatred and anyone who is trying to justify it staying is lying to themselves because they are closet racist and think that by knowing or associating with black people that they aren't.We have heard all of your arguements for it staying and fobecause your forefathers died defending it, taxes, state rights, and we were to poor to own slaves. well all of that is true to a certain extent, but when your ancestors lost the war what did the do? They took that flag and used it to terrorize black people, they came and lynched blacks who spoke up, who gained wealth, who won public office, they enacted jim crow laws, all to keep blacks beneath thier poor selves. Any Honor in that? And the also got enough resistance to this tactics back then that they had to wear hoods to concel thier identies. Klan anyone? when blacks were freed they could possible progress more than poor whites and poor whites couldn't be hired as overseers to beat, demean and rape black women. In other words they lost their status, that is why you fought so hard then and you fight so hard now. I now know that a business now in lexinton, pelion and even columbia that flys that flag doesn't want my business, I've been to many of them and been refused service many times. Most want even let you in the door. I know you have you complaints about blacks and I do to, and there are some black neighbor hoods I won't go into either, not only because I ain't black enough, but because they are gang run, just as the flag supporters are. we had more prosperous blacks right after the civil war than we have now. some were senators and councilmen. But you took their land and homes and robbed them of a future the could leave to thier kids. so everybody started out in poverty and lost hope. how do you build in a land of oppression? Get a job you say? who's gonna hire a black when the flag wavers will attack them for helping a negro? Affirmative action was enacted to help even the field of actions you created. there is no love or honor in that flag, you spit in the face of the church members who marched to take it down in 2000, whats changed? You flag lovers will call to fire Tanner, spurrier, and any USC coach who ask for it to be removed, your hate is that strong. You're only showing your true colors when you defend it .Everyone is use to fox news by now and you can't hide anymore, We know everyone is pissed about about a black POTUS, and you are losing your mind. But your also exposing yourselves. hell I ain't gonna lie, I am afraid also of the pants off the azz wearing, loud music ,ghetto niggas. I don't want me and family seeing them everywhere either. But your holding back people progressing added to this. you helped creat this monster and I'm not gonna justify what they do, I carry against them and you.Eitheway I slice it you are both terrorist an against everything america was supposed to be. we tried it you way for 150 years since the war ended, let do something new.
flag football or flag and football.
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When you get it through your thick head that neither I nor any other white person on this board did anything like you've written above, maybe things can change. Maybe people are tired of being blamed for things that happened well before they were born.
As to the POTUS, it's not racist to disagree with his policies.
Edit: I highlighted several areas in your post where you specifically said that "you" did something. This new board doesn't always show the entire quoted post.
But you took their land and homes and robbed them of a future
Affirmative action was enacted to help even the field of actions you created
Just a couple of quotes from you. Don't call anyone on this board a racist as long as you hold these beliefs. As sick as you are of the flag, I'm even sicker of being blamed of robbing people of their futures.
Affirmative action was enacted to help even the field of actions you created
Just a couple of quotes from you. Don't call anyone on this board a racist as long as you hold these beliefs. As sick as you are of the flag, I'm even sicker of being blamed of robbing people of their futures.
I'm for the flag to come down, but I will say that this post is insulting, inflammatory, and unnecessary.
uscbeckham, he posted his rant at 1:30AM - figures. Cockamania's post is why I am concerned about the state legislature dragging out the flag removal. It gives nuts on both sides too much time to vent and make general mayhem before the vote is taken. The politicians need to act now!
Cack, Ive been a member here for many of years and I've read ad enjoyed may of your posting here. And as to the postus I can agree with that also. But to turn a blind eye to the truth, I can't anymore. Were you there when in the year 2000 that they protested the marchers against the flag and they spit on these church members who marched for the flag to come down. I think its a travesty the senator has a viewing under that flag that he fought to have removed, Yet, you flag lovers agree to compromise, as long as you're winning. do you remember off the dome and in your face? Do you remember " if I'd know this sh*t would happen, I would have picked my own cotton". I do, I wish so also. As for the affrimitive action, would you have hired a negro and face the flag representatives? You are the best negative recruitives for s.c. that the has ever been. But losing is better than supporting them. Read all of of the post about "them" will "they" stop here or want the war statues removed also. No one was lynched or dragged from there house from a war memorial. There is a difference,, I myself can't comprehend,albeit with my small niggra mind, how you can justify the flag.But I wonder, and history tells us that it's true, in the early 1900s when iltailians immagrated here the were the plague of the future. they owned most of the prison population and robbed and stole and did what they did to get there, they earned thier way to prison. it lasted for a decade. same with the irish, yes the were the most imprisoned, why, because they were outsiders and desperate to feed their family. jews also. But after a decade or so, society accepted them and they gained wealth and bought into to the american dream. Niggras, not so much, it's you flag loving people who have never let them intergrate into society.You have generations who were share cropper, who owned nothing, then kicked of of that land who died or depended on the government to eat. where the hell were they gonna go? Generations of people who have been discrimated against it never allowed a slice of america. If you have no vested interested and no future and nothing to look forward to, how would you feel. I am not making excuse for these people, but I know how it feels.I actually support the flag, because It lets me know who I'm dealing with. I just don't think that my state should tell me that they hate me also. Something to think about, how would it be if the gangs became self aware, and decided that instead of killing eachother and decided to become all muslim on flag bearers. how would you feel to lose your son over a flag because he drove your car to school? I know you got your gun, but will it bring back your loved one. This shit ain't that important, you killed martin, and now pinckney, and one day its all coming back less we let it go now. What goes around, come around. Pick your sides thoughtfully. Fox news ain't real news.Please visit this website, "without sactuary.org" view the pictures and count the flags before you respond.
I guess you will consider this site racist when they take this nonsensical post down.
To help avoid this, maybe you should go back and read what you have typed and count the rules you have broken before it happens.
To help avoid this, maybe you should go back and read what you have typed and count the rules you have broken before it happens.
If I was black and being recruited here and saw it flying, I would not come here. Everyone knows the deal. We have hurt our state for so long, money wise and athletic wise. Please wake up people and honor our heritage by putting it in a museum or people can fly it in their yards if they wish. But I say, lets be Americans and be part of the human race only and let love prevail, not hate. Fly the American flag and lets start making our country proud and not think of SC as a bunch of redneck racists. Why have we only won in baseball, think about it.
In my opinion, comments like Cockamania's probably have the opposite effect he intended and actually hurt efforts to bring down the flag. Even folks who agree that it should be taken down - but who disagree that every white southerner who honors the confederacy is a closet racist - would find themselves at odds with Cockamania. It also shows why it's so hard to have an honest and reasonable discussion about the flag or any other racially sensitive subject in America. Good and reasonable people can disagree on these issues and work toward a resolution both sides can live with. But demagogues who refuse to listen to the other side are often disappointed in their efforts to get anything done.
You hit quite a few tender nerves, Brother. You know they have no answer to the meat of your post when they address your semantics, spelling and lack of paragraphs. I'm sure that none of the folk who replied to you has raped a black woman, taken your land etc., but our ancestors surely did, and all too often did so under that banner. If we can't understand that all that beating a people down, and "putting them in their place" hasn't left scars and didn't have its desired and intended results, then there's little hope they will ever, or at least soon, understand. But don't give up hope, Friend, and don't give up trying.
What if you were being recruited to Clempson, CCU, CofC, The Citadel, Furman, Wofford, SCST, etc? Or would it just be USC since it is Cola...even though our coach openly states that he doesn't agree with the flag and the university does not endorse it?
Just curious.
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