Interesting assessment of M. Davis at Combine

[Yellow Fin Fan]

For those who have not read, this appears to be calling out Gamecocks (past and present) for being out of shape at the combine. Share your thoughts if you desire:



This post was edited on 2/23 12:12 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

This post was edited on 2/23 12:15 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

NFL Combine Profile

 

[bdblack]

If they're out of shape during the season, why would anyone think they would be in shape at the combine?

 

[G-C-Gamecock]

Nah, we're good, our staff is tops in the nation. Nothing needs to be changed.

 

[_NOVA_]

First, that was written before the combine.

Second, every team with a bunch of NFL prospects will have a few that end up being called lazy or out of shape. It's the nature of the business. Heck, sometimes coaches will even call out their own players to the scouts like Les Miles did with Sam Montgomery.

Third, whether Davis is actually "out of shape" or not, it's comical that it's somehow and indictment of Carolina and their program. If his combine performance is a reflection of Carolina, then they should also be getting credit for Gilmore, Ingram, Shaw (one of the fastest QBs), Ellington, Culiver, Clowney, Sanders etc. Because all those guys had terrific to very good combine performances. Even Alshon, who seems to be the tip of the spear for out of shape Gamecocks, put on a fantastic pro day performance and has done nothing but succeed at the NFL level.

 

[Gamecock1993]

Originally posted by bdblack:
If they're out of shape during the season, why would anyone think they would be in shape at the combine?

This post was edited on 2/23 3:15 PM by Gamecock1993

 

[jimnasium]

One thing that hurt Mike this season was lack of playing time due to hurts here and there. He had less contact in practice it seems and never really got himself into game shape. He did look a step slower and spent too much time stopping and going on inside runs and not running North and South like he did in 2013. Mike could never get into the flow of the game when healthy before raising his"give me a break" hand or limping off the field. Unlike 2013, he was not an every down RB but With the right motivation in the NFL he can be a reliable backup. I wish him the best though with his family situation that I read about he has a lot on his plate. Do what you have to do Mike and thanks for being a Gamecock. I wish he had more shots at outside runs.

 

[uscbeckham]

Originally posted by Yellow Fin Fan:
For those who have not read, this appears to be calling out Gamecocks (past and present) for being out of shape at the combine. Share your thoughts if you desire:




This post was edited on 2/23 12:12 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

This post was edited on 2/23 12:15 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

Maybe Clowney was out of shape during the season, but he nailed the combine and pro day. At pro day, he participated in more drills than your normal DE. No one has had a better workout session pre-draft, than JD Clowney. His combine 40 and his entire pro day were sick.

Also, Swearinger, Gilmore, Shaw, and Cann seemed to be in excellent shape for the combine. SO, maybe this is less of a team issue, and more of an individual thing.

The system is there. It is up to the individual to take advantage, and I doubt that we could force guys like Jeffery, Clowney, and Davis to give us max effort/commitment. All three had us in the palm of their hands. Couldn't bench them, couldn't afford to.

 

[alston]

If you are out of shape at the combine, your trainer and agent didn't do a good job (along with the athlete obviously). The school has little to nothing to do with getting kids ready for the combine.

 

[jrc77]

Originally posted by Yellow Fin Fan:
For those who have not read, this appears to be calling out Gamecocks (past and present) for being out of shape at the combine. Share your thoughts if you desire:



This post was edited on 2/23 12:12 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

This post was edited on 2/23 12:15 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

Just to clarify, they are talking about conditioning during the season, not the combine. Alshon showed up at the combine 20lbs lighter, looked great and ran well. Clowney's was exaggerated by the media, but he was limited with injuries. Davis was constantly battling injuries too. I don't know what degree they played but he always looked a bit heavy, but the strong, compact style does tend to translate well to the NFL. I'd be more worried about his durability. They weren't major, but it seems like he was always playing through something.

 

[AgnosticTrollCock]

Originally posted by alston:

If you are out of shape at the combine, your trainer and agent didn't do a good job (along with the athlete obviously). The school has little to nothing to do with getting kids ready for the combine.

This.

There's a reason why these athletes get agents and move down to Florida or out to Cali. They get put up and do nothing but train to improve themselves for the combine. Their agent sees them as potential dollar signs.

 

[fightingcock103]

Originally posted by uscbeckham:

Originally posted by Yellow Fin Fan:
For those who have not read, this appears to be calling out Gamecocks (past and present) for being out of shape at the combine. Share your thoughts if you desire:




This post was edited on 2/23 12:12 PM by Yellow Fin Fan
This post was edited on 2/23 12:15 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

Maybe Clowney was out of shape during the season, but he nailed the combine and pro day. At pro day, he participated in more drills than your normal DE. No one has had a better workout session pre-draft, than JD Clowney. His combine 40 and his entire pro day were sick.

Also, Swearinger, Gilmore, Shaw, and Cann seemed to be in excellent shape for the combine. SO, maybe this is less of a team issue, and more of an individual thing.

The system is there. It is up to the individual to take advantage, and I doubt that we could force guys like Jeffery, Clowney, and Davis to give us max effort/commitment. All three had us in the palm of their hands. Couldn't bench them, couldn't afford to.

What hurt Jeffery was Shaw not throwing him the ball.

 

[DarkCock]

Originally posted by fightingcock103:

Originally posted by uscbeckham:

Originally posted by Yellow Fin Fan:
For those who have not read, this appears to be calling out Gamecocks (past and present) for being out of shape at the combine. Share your thoughts if you desire:




This post was edited on 2/23 12:12 PM by Yellow Fin Fan
This post was edited on 2/23 12:15 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

Maybe Clowney was out of shape during the season, but he nailed the combine and pro day. At pro day, he participated in more drills than your normal DE. No one has had a better workout session pre-draft, than JD Clowney. His combine 40 and his entire pro day were sick.

Also, Swearinger, Gilmore, Shaw, and Cann seemed to be in excellent shape for the combine. SO, maybe this is less of a team issue, and more of an individual thing.

The system is there. It is up to the individual to take advantage, and I doubt that we could force guys like Jeffery, Clowney, and Davis to give us max effort/commitment. All three had us in the palm of their hands. Couldn't bench them, couldn't afford to.

What hurt Jeffery was Shaw not throwing him the ball.

Where are you getting that from? He never had more than 5 catches in any of the games in which Garcia was the quarterback. He had only 4 catches combined against Navy and Vandy. For whatever reason, the Garcia/Jeffery combo ineffective at the beginning of 2011 and Lattimore had to carry the team offensively.

The combination of Shaw, Lattimore, and Jeffery only got one complete game together (that was the Kentucky game...Jeffery's best performance of the season). After Lattimore was injured, Jeffery had to face double coverage the rest of the year. He still managed to catch a touchdown pass in each of his last three games, including one with a broken hand.

 

[nocdoc]

Originally posted by DarkCock:

Originally posted by fightingcock103:

Originally posted by uscbeckham:

Originally posted by Yellow Fin Fan:
For those who have not read, this appears to be calling out Gamecocks (past and present) for being out of shape at the combine. Share your thoughts if you desire:




This post was edited on 2/23 12:12 PM by Yellow Fin Fan
This post was edited on 2/23 12:15 PM by Yellow Fin Fan

Maybe Clowney was out of shape during the season, but he nailed the combine and pro day. At pro day, he participated in more drills than your normal DE. No one has had a better workout session pre-draft, than JD Clowney. His combine 40 and his entire pro day were sick.

Also, Swearinger, Gilmore, Shaw, and Cann seemed to be in excellent shape for the combine. SO, maybe this is less of a team issue, and more of an individual thing.

The system is there. It is up to the individual to take advantage, and I doubt that we could force guys like Jeffery, Clowney, and Davis to give us max effort/commitment. All three had us in the palm of their hands. Couldn't bench them, couldn't afford to.

What hurt Jeffery was Shaw not throwing him the ball.

Where are you getting that from? He never had more than 5 catches in any of the games in which Garcia was the quarterback. He had only 4 catches combined against Navy and Vandy. For whatever reason, the Garcia/Jeffery combo ineffective at the beginning of 2011 and Lattimore had to carry the team offensively.

The combination of Shaw, Lattimore, and Jeffery only got one complete game together (that was the Kentucky game...Jeffery's best performance of the season). After Lattimore was injured, Jeffery had to face double coverage the rest of the year. He still managed to catch a touchdown pass in each of his last three games, including one with a broken hand.

It was a combination of Garcia pretty much regressing, teams zeroing in on Jeffery, and our offensive identity evolving into the "Run-N-Gun" ball-control/conservative offense. Lattimore was gone by the Miss St. game, and then we really found a our identity offensively. Wilds came out of nowhere, Miles chipped in at the end of the season, and Shaw played the good manager/playmaker with his legs.

 

[dcdayday]

Jeffery would have had a bigger year if he played at 215 lbs. instead of playing at 230 lbs. Even Tori Gurley played at 240 while in the NFL he's playing at a lighter weight.

 

[nocdoc]

His weight was fine. People made a big deal about it when it was nothing.

 

[GarnetBlood80]

Bet it was hard for Mike to get into a good flow, when he's tapping out every other run.