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Is there any mechanism whereby we can discuss the intersection of politics/current events and sports
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Your involvement in the back and forth was never questioned. I found the comment about "acting innocent" ironic coming from you. That, and playing victim while in another thread trying to mock someone for playing the victim.
It seems you're an awfully lot like those people you argue with.
From what I've read, it was not Kaepernick's intention to disrespect the flag/country by taking a knee. Still, IMO, taking a knee was not well-thought-out, and, at minimum, was perceived to be disrespectful.
Kind of like BLM in my opinion. Good intentions on the part of many, but again IMO, a bad slogan in the end.
It certainly came across that way. Complaining about people calling you names, being mean and getting a board shut down.
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anon_n4c0cp5zhdxn7
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"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"
I think it's a worthwhile topic and timely. I think the audiences will eventually fatigue of the messaging. This would be a good time for some enterprising person to start an alternative league with no social or political messaging. I think with the impending end of college major sports-yeah, I think it's over as we know it- many athletes will come open to other avenues of employment than just existing leagues.
Once businesses get brave enough to withstand social pressure from all sides--already happening with a couple this week abandoning the socials....then there will be financial support.
Lol. I never said they were calling me names, or being mean. The trumpsters nuked the board, that's just plain fact. That's why i asked if you were involved with smalltalk...
I did say I've been called "left" on this board. In response to the uncivilized back and forth. You can't sneeze on here without being called a liberal. And that is why there will never be civil discussions on here. I admitted to responding to the instigators.
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So, he doesn't want to stand. He's not playing Metallica over the anthem. He's kneeling, in silent protest. (Most of the kneelers have admitted to praying during their protest. Is praying for the betterment of your country considered uncivilized these days?)
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anon_n4c0cp5zhdxn7
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Didn't say anything about it. Just provided a direct quote.
Does this mean that black people are not people of colour? Who knew....
How could someone in a highly public position kneeling during the playing of the national anthem not be intended to disrespect the country? That is exactly what he was doing and he knew it.
And that's why I stated that Colin's behaviour may have been perceived to be disrespectful.
These folks need to hire a PR person to advise them on optimal activities to get their message across. IMO, taking a knee ain't it.
I will say this...every time I'm at a ballgame and the National Anthem comes on I see people walking around, drinking beer and on their phones. I'd say that's worse...Kap was trying to bring some injustice to the forefront.
I don't care for others being disrespectful either.
Kaepernick was disrespectful to the national anthem and the country. Regardless of his alleged reasons, it still does not make what he did right.
I have no insight into what went on in Kaepernick's brain, but many are offended by his actions, including this writer.
I agree with you, and shame on the drinkers and talkers. Shame on Kap too.
USCBatgirl21
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They don't like it when you point that out around here.
I agree that these people are inconsiderate and rude, just like Kaepernick. What he did was actually worse because it was an intentional attempt by a paid performer to disrespect the country where he has made millions. The others are rude because they are rude and inconsiderate.
Funny thing is these are probably the same people who complain about Kap...smh
I don't disagree. But I think taking a knee is about as peaceful as a protest can get. Veterans and current service members are split on this, as well. This will always be a point of contention.
The last USC basketball game I saw in Columbia was on Saturday night, Sat, Feb 19, 1983 vs The College of the Holy Cross. The Crusader team stayed on the floor for the playing of the national anthem, standing at attention, hands on hearts (I recall). Gamecocks were in the dressing room for all of this.
Was our last year as an independent before joining the Metro. Played Wake in the third round of the NIT at the old Winston Salem Coliseum to close out the season, to date our only hoops meeting with the Deacons since leaving the ACC.
I certainly hope not. It would not remain civil; it would disintegrate inevitably into personal attacks and effrontery.
Is it a fact? I bet those who you were demeaning on that board would say differently.
As for responding? It's funny to me how instigators always say they're just responding to someone else. I wonder if it's part of the act, or if they are really not that self aware?
So many on here afraid of open discussion. We truly are seeing the end of a free and open society with vigorous debate.
This is a legitimate sports topic. If we have learned anything from social media, debate now, on ANY board, is open warfare. Our only choice is to ignore the ugliness and plod through it. Rise above it and stand your ground. Or, just give in and let those who are willing to get messy call the shots. You get the world, including the sports world, you ask for. The unpleasant kids in the toybox, on either side of the debate, are running....and ruining....the world.
This is a legitimate sports topic. If we have learned anything from social media, debate now, on ANY board, is open warfare. Our only choice is to ignore the ugliness and plod through it. Rise above it and stand your ground. Or, just give in and let those who are willing to get messy call the shots. You get the world, including the sports world, you ask for. The unpleasant kids in the toybox, on either side of the debate, are running....and ruining....the world.
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I always thought this was intentional on the part of those who run politics.
With an honest debate, people can disagree, find common ground, maybe even see the merits of the other side a little. Then you run the risk of people crossing the aisle to vote.
People don't cross the aisle to vote for nazis or communists for example. So demonize the other side to make sure there is no compromise.
I have family members and friends who were and are in the Military. I have a nephew who is a Green Beret and currently in Afghanistan and every one of them didn’t have a problem with his kneeling. All said that’s what they were fighting for. If they don’t have a problem with it the I sure don’t.
My experience e has been a split as far as veterans having an issue with it.
Every single one days he has the right to do it, but there's disagreement on if he should do it.
Partisan politics are the bane of a free democratic republic. But too many watch their chosen news program and gather a ton of hate and disdain for their opposite. Divide and conquer, that's the American way.
The new millennials have been educated to be socialists to say that America is a hateful terrible country and that old history needs wiping out and their new way needs to take over.
Perhaps you will not get tired if it on actual sports. They are intertwined now. Cannot be separated. The BLM thing is expected; the social justice causes on every Jersey is madness.
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