Keeping Up With the Big Guns

[alaskagamecock]

So this is now what it's going to take to compete with the top programs. This kid has never even started a game so Bama now has a new story to tell high level recruits (as if they needed anything else). All you top recruits come here and you'll be making at least 6 figures a year at a minimum once you step on campus!

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...-qb-bryce-young-already-signed-800k-nil-deals

 

[bucketdad]

Fixing to find out who has value and who doesnt. Pretty rotten time to be coming off the Muschamp era.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

So this is now what it's going to take to compete with the top programs. This kid has never even started a game so Bama now has a new story to tell high level recruits (as if they needed anything else). All you top recruits come here and you'll be making at least 6 figures a year at a minimum once you step on campus!

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...-qb-bryce-young-already-signed-800k-nil-deals

Yep and don’t think for a second Nick Saban didn’t know what he was doing when he said this. He’s basically advertising that coming to Alabama could make you a millionaire before even making the NFL.

I’m convinced if this rule was in place when Clowney was picking schools, it would have been difficult if not impossible for him to give up the Alabama money. I hope it goes away but I doubt it will.

 

[92Pony]

...................... I hope it goes away but I doubt it will.

Nope, me neither. This toothpaste is out of the tube.

 

[GamecockinHouston]

If you are a business owner with money for marketing, step up and help out your Gamecocks.

 

[Bad seed]

I think it was SCOTUS...in particular, Brett Kavanaugh...that spooked the NCAA into giving the go ahead. I have so many people I hate now because of all that is happening to college football that I just can't keep track of it all. The Supreme Court, Sankey, whoever let Nebraska and Rutgers in the Big 10, Lee Corso, the people responsible that changed Pitt's and BYU's helmets years ago, and the horde of imbeciles on FGF that approve of all of this.

 

[Captain Weegie]

I think it was SCOTUS...in particular, Brett Kavanaugh...that spooked the NCAA into giving the go ahead. I have so many people I hate now because of all that is happening to college football that I just can't keep track of it all. The Supreme Court, Sankey, whoever let Nebraska and Rutgers in the Big 10, Lee Corso, the people responsible that changed Pitt's and BYU's helmets years ago, and the horde of imbeciles on FGF that approve of all of this.

How about the players that have filed lawsuits in recent years? I think Ed O'Bannon was among the first to be successful in court. The money pie is enormous, and the players want a representative slice.

 

[Bad seed]

How about the players that have filed lawsuits in recent years? I think Ed O'Bannon was among the first to be successful in court. The money pie is enormous, and the players want a representative slice.

Yes, him, too. I thought of him, but I was getting so worked up typing about it that I had to stop. O'Bannon should've gone to a school with more crooked boosters if he wanted more money.

 

[Pic-6-Chick]

The money pie is enormous, and the players want a representative slice.

It has all the makings of slicing open the goose to get at the golden eggs.

 

[Jon Snow]

I think this becomes more of a balancing act in a few years. I can’t imagine that companies throwing pretty big money at high school/college athletes as a true investment/advertisement will see any reasonable return. That money would be better spent on nationally or regionally recognized pro athletes. Maybe some local businesses see turn on investment, but eventually the majority of NIL $ will simply be straight up booster payments to players. It will be interesting to see it evolve over a few years.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

If you are a business owner with money for marketing, step up and help out your Gamecocks.

I’ve wondered how this would work. If I’m a business owner in SC I’m not sure I’d get involved. I wouldn’t support a business that openly supports Clemsux. I’m sure there are Clemsux people that feel the same about us.

 

[Pic-6-Chick]

I wouldn’t support a business that openly supports Clemsux.

If Defender Services wants to make urinal cakes with the images of Clemson Players on them, who is to say I wouldn't end up ordering a few of those?

 

[Gamecockben1979]

If Defender Services wants to make urinal cakes with the images of Clemson Players on them, who is to say I wouldn't end up ordering a few of those?

I like your thinking…LOL

 

[Flameout12]

Sometimes the baddest ain't the biggest.

 

[Captain Weegie]

Yes, him, too. I thought of him, but I was getting so worked up typing about it that I had to stop. O'Bannon should've gone to a school with more crooked boosters if he wanted more money.

Understood. I'd suggest that where we are today started with the players, and rightly so. If you're looking to vent, you can't leave out the players in your list of targets.

 

[Captain Weegie]

It has all the makings of slicing open the goose to get at the golden eggs.

Or, the eggs have been laid. There are just now more parties involved in picking them up. Kinda like inviting a whole new group of kids to the Easter egg hunt, I suppose.

 

[Captain Weegie]

I think this becomes more of a balancing act in a few years. I can’t imagine that companies throwing pretty big money at high school/college athletes as a true investment/advertisement will see any reasonable return. That money would be better spent on nationally or regionally recognized pro athletes. Maybe some local businesses see turn on investment, but eventually the majority of NIL $ will simply be straight up booster payments to players. It will be interesting to see it evolve over a few years.

Correct. The idea that random kids are gonna start raking in the cash isn't so accurate. A company still has to see value in who is marketing its product...it's a huge gamble to throw a ton of advertising money at an 18 year old that may not be so marketable one reason or another.

 

[Bad seed]

I don't know why people keep thinking it's going to be a problem if companies don't pony up big money to players. The issue is going to be the legalized funneling of money to players by boosters. They don't have to hide it now. People keep talking about ROI. Hell, the ROI is getting the player so the football team is better. The old days of the under the table crooked booster was the way to go.

 

[rogue cock]

I don't know why people keep thinking it's going to be a problem if companies don't pony up big money to players. The issue is going to be the legalized funneling of money to players by boosters. They don't have to hide it now. People keep talking about ROI. Hell, the ROI is getting the player so the football team is better. The old days of the under the table crooked booster was the way to go.

Agree.....and I am not sure how that helps us. This will simply provide a legitimate method to do what many were already illegitimally doing....and I am not sure our big boosters were as willing to participate as fanatically as other schools' boosters.

 

[Bad seed]

Agree.....and I am not sure how that helps us. This will simply provide a legitimate method to do what many were already illegitimally doing....and I am not sure our big boosters were as willing to participate as fanatically as other schools' boosters.

That's right. Either our boosters weren't as willing, or as able. I don't think they were as dedicated to cheating as the Alabamas, taters, and Auburns of the world. I have long thought that Auburn cheats more than anyone, but Alabama is more efficient at cheating. But, yeah, those schools' boosters are as crooked as a dog's hind leg, and it showed.

 

[BigWillieCock]

I think this becomes more of a balancing act in a few years. I can’t imagine that companies throwing pretty big money at high school/college athletes as a true investment/advertisement will see any reasonable return. That money would be better spent on nationally or regionally recognized pro athletes. Maybe some local businesses see turn on investment, but eventually the majority of NIL $ will simply be straight up booster payments to players. It will be interesting to see it evolve over a few years.

I wouldn’t have imagined Nike still pays Kaepernick but.....

 

[rogue cock]

I wouldn’t have imagined Nike still pays Kaepernick but.....

With the exception of their golf apparel, I don't believe you or I are within Nike's target group. The only Nike "shoes" I have ever owned are the soles of my Cole Hahn dress shoes.

 

[BigWillieCock]

With the exception of their golf apparel, I don't believe you or I are within Nike's target group. The only Nike "shoes" I have ever owned are the soles of my Cole Hahn dress shoes.

Agreed, 1000%. Just sayin sports economics make no sense anymore.

Like NBA ratings tanked, but the free agency deals are insane.

 

[uscg1984]

I think it was SCOTUS...in particular, Brett Kavanaugh...that spooked the NCAA into giving the go ahead. I have so many people I hate now because of all that is happening to college football that I just can't keep track of it all. The Supreme Court, Sankey, whoever let Nebraska and Rutgers in the Big 10, Lee Corso, the people responsible that changed Pitt's and BYU's helmets years ago, and the horde of imbeciles on FGF that approve of all of this.

Don't forget that guy that came up with the idea of installing blue turf in Boise. That guy is the worst!

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Don't forget that guy that came up with the idea of installing blue turf in Boise. That guy is the worst!

Smurf Turf? They love it.

 

[DeepfriedCock]

Correct. The idea that random kids are gonna start raking in the cash isn't so accurate. A company still has to see value in who is marketing its product...it's a huge gamble to throw a ton of advertising money at an 18 year old that may not be so marketable one reason or another.

I would say Company's won't be where most players, will make their money. Booster clubs paying 5 and 6 figures for speaking engagements and autograph signings. Will be where most players make their money.

 

[USMCatFan]

I never for a moment bought into the concept that NIL would "Level the Playing Field" with regard to recruiting or competitiveness. Nor will expanding the Play-Off make every program equal.

The teams that had the best recruiting and were most competitive were also the teams with the deepest and most fervent fan bases. With that fan support, they were generally the highest monetized programs.

Develop the BCS Championship, design a Play-Off, enable NIL, expand the Play-Off or create Super Conferences, you can move the goalposts wherever you like. The teams that recruited the best before any of that are going to be the best recruiting programs after any of it.

 

[midline]

As I said a few months back when this was coming together, the most important person a coach will hire on staff from this point forward will be the person in charge of putting together packages to offer to recruits. Just like any other business the highest bidder most often wins. And I do agree that along the way it may be more booster driven that driven by corporate deals. Not sure how much they are paying, but Bojangles seems to be doing deals with most every school in the region. But at the end of the day I don't know if they are making a wise decision. Just don't think that sticking the picture of any athlete with their jowls crammed full of chicken is going to inspire anyone to go buy some. And at the end of the day it is always about ROI.

 

[GamecockinHouston]

As I said a few months back when this was coming together, the most important person a coach will hire on staff from this point forward will be the person in charge of putting together packages to offer to recruits.

The university is NOT allowed to partake in NIL deals. The athlete has to get the deals on their own.

On the flip side, we have hired 3 firms to lead guide and educate the athletes.

 

[midline]

The university is NOT allowed to partake in NIL deals. The athlete has to get the deals on their own.

On the flip side, we have hired 3 firms to lead guide and educate the athletes.

Yea, I suppose that is what the rules say. But the quote that summarizes it the best came from Jimbo Fischer at SEC media days. When he was asked about the NIL, he laughed. Then said that folks had been doing NIL for years, they just didn't have an official, legal name, that they could call it. Now will schools have an official name for a position like NIL director? No. But someone will absolutely be in the shadows coordinating things

 

[Captain Weegie]

I would say Company's won't be where most players, will make their money. Booster clubs paying 5 and 6 figures for speaking engagements and autograph signings. Will be where most players make their money.

Fair enough. But even booster clubs have their spending limits and will go through a process to determine who is and isn't worth a five or six figure payday. There aren't that many six figure kids out there.