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NPR? Bwahahaha. You might as well have asked Obama himself. NPR is so far left it's disgusting.

Bush set the initial timeline well before ISIS came to power. Obama wanted out of Iraq and went against everything military leaders said. They told him what would happen, and it happened exactly like they said it would. He even mocked ISIS and called them the JV team. They proceeded to overrun the region and killed thousands of people. Obama's foreign policy was a complete, unmitigated disaster.
The status of forces agreement wss negotiated and signed by W. The Shia wanted the US out so they could settle old scores and buddy up with Iran, as was their right as a sovereign country. And that was entirely predictable in 2003. Well, predictable to anyone with a passing knowledge of Iraq.
 
The status of forces agreement wss negotiated and signed by W. The Shia wanted the US out so they could settle old scores and buddy up with Iran, as was their right as a sovereign country. And that was entirely predictable in 2003. Well, predictable to anyone with a passing knowledge of Iraq.

We didn't have to do anything we didn't want to do. Nothing more than an excuse to bail.

Now Trump has to clean it up. The ISIS capital Raqqa in Syria just fell to US-backed forces a few days ago.

How much did you hear about that in the liberal media? Instead, all you hear about is some lie from a cowboy hat wearing crazy Congressman.

Disgusting.
 
We didn't have to do anything we didn't want to do. Nothing more than an excuse to bail.

Now Trump has to clean it up. The ISIS capital Raqqa in Syria just fell to US-backed forces a few days ago.

How much did you hear about that in the liberal media? Instead, all you hear about is some lie from a cowboy hat wearing crazy Congressman.

Disgusting.
The fall of Raqqa led on every news station. Mosul also fell to the Iranians. That wasn't mentioned so much.

Again, Iraq is a sovereign country and they wanted us out. W signed the SOF and it was completed as planned.

And the rolling up of the Islamic State was largely completed by last spring. Glad you finally noticed. It's weirdly like you didn't want to acknowledge that fact when Obummer was in office. Same thing with the economy. Huh. Strange.
 
The fall of Raqqa led on every news station. Mosul also fell to the Iranians. That wasn't mentioned so much.

Again, Iraq is a sovereign country and they wanted us out. W signed the SOF and it was completed as planned.

And the rolling up of the Islamic State was largely completed by last spring. Glad you finally noticed. It's weirdly like you didn't want to acknowledge that fact when Obummer was in office. Same thing with the economy. Huh. Strange.

That's a flat out lie.

We couldn't even take Mosul under Obama because he shackled the military with strict rules of engagement. Trump changed that in February. Mosul fell in June. Raqqa a few days ago. Obama was a complete failure in the fight against ISIS. That bat-shit crazy cowboy hat wearing congresswoman from Florida and her lies got 1000X the coverage of Trump success in Raqqa.

His economy was a joke too. Nothing more than low interest rates and printing money. Record low workforce participation rates. His unemployment numbers looked good, but that was just because people quit looking for work and went on the government gravy train settled for part time employment. Record number of people on food stamps. A complete joke.

And again, we didn't have to do anything we didn't want to do. We could have modified the agreement for just ignored it. He certainly didn't mind overturning or ignoring anything else Bush did that he didn't agree with. He had complete control of what we wanted to do and when we wanted to do it. Obama was just too weak and stupid to do it. He laughed at ISIS and called them a JV team. Just like he laughed at Romney at the debate when he said Russia was out biggest geopolitical enemy and told him he was stuck in the 80s. Now, suddenly, Russia is the evil empire and stole our election.

Laughable.
 
Trump isn't a conservative. Sorry, bud, like the dopes that signed up for Trump U or the untold dry wall contractors that got stiffed when he declared bankruptcy, or roofers that "took a haircut" when he refused to pay his bills, or the people that believed he was going to see him drain the swamp then watched Goldman Sachs take over the cabinet, or the USFL investors that got screwed when he sued the NFL, etc, etc, etc, you got conned.

So, bud, of what he is doing and has done, what is liberal?

The wall?
Killing illegal Obamacare subsidies?
Killing the Paris Accord stupidty?
The travel ban?
Killing the retarded Iran deal?
Bombing Syria for using chemical weapons?

Are those liberal agendas? Conservative?>
 
That's a flat out lie.

We couldn't even take Mosul under Obama because he shackled the military with strict rules of engagement. Trump changed that in February. Mosul fell in June. Raqqa a few days ago. Obama was a complete failure in the fight against ISIS. That bat-shit crazy cowboy hat wearing congresswoman from Florida and her lies got 1000X the coverage of Trump success in Raqqa.

His economy was a joke too. Nothing more than low interest rates and printing money. Record low workforce participation rates. His unemployment numbers looked good, but that was just because people quit looking for work and went on the government gravy train settled for part time employment. Record number of people on food stamps. A complete joke.

And again, we didn't have to do anything we didn't want to do. We could have modified the agreement for just ignored it. He certainly didn't mind overturning or ignoring anything else Bush did that he didn't agree with. He had complete control of what we wanted to do and when we wanted to do it. Obama was just too weak and stupid to do it. He laughed at ISIS and called them a JV team. Just like he laughed at Romney at the debate when he said Russia was out biggest geopolitical enemy and told him he was stuck in the 80s. Now, suddenly, Russia is the evil empire and stole our election.

Laughable.


The economic metrics when obummer took over for W were worse than October 1929 with the economy purging 800k jobs a month.
So, bud, of what he is doing and has done, what is liberal?

The wall?
Killing illegal Obamacare subsidies?
Killing the Paris Accord stupidty?
The travel ban?
Killing the retarded Iran deal?
Bombing Syria for using chemical weapons?

Are those liberal agendas? Conservative?>
I'm not sure anything other than killing the subsidies is strickly "conservative." Reagan didn't build a wall. He didn't ban people from Muslim counties. He didn't scuttle our international agreements and he negotiated with the USSR. Maybe you aren't conservative either.

And you're actually right about Mosul. I meant Kirkuk. Interesting bedfellows we've made there, right? It's almost like the invasion of Iraq vastly expanded the power of Iran. Good stuff. Again, entirely predictable.

On the Islamic State - they were already being rolled up when 45 came into office. And the strategy has not changed appreciably because the strategy was already working.

As for your thoughts on the economy. Laughable is right. Obama took over when the economy was shedding 800k jobs a month and the economic metrics were worse than October 1929. When he left office, the economy was humming along with steady growth, low unemployment and low inflation. The fact you can't concede what's demonstrably true says everything about your objectivity.

And why do you keep referring to Rep Wilson as a liar? Her story was confirmed by the widow. Ah, right, the objectivity thing again.
 
The belief that the government will be more business friendly certainly changed. Trump isn't going to rely on currently manipulation and government programs to spur the economy. Tax reform is on the table and moving forward and Obamacare and it's ticking time bomb of job killing restrictions are going to go, one way or another.

Finally, an AMERICAN leader. Not some socialist, liberal, european-style half-wit.
Gotcha. Trump fixed the economy by being a real American and planning to do stuff. Now that's efficient!
 
Trump isn't a conservative. Sorry, bud, like the dopes that signed up for Trump U or the untold dry wall contractors that got stiffed when he declared bankruptcy, or roofers that "took a haircut" when he refused to pay his bills, or the people that believed he was going to see him drain the swamp then watched Goldman Sachs take over the cabinet, or the USFL investors that got screwed when he sued the NFL, etc, etc, etc, you got conned.

I'm waiting. Tell me about all the liberal policies and agendas that Trump is pushing.

I keep hearing about how all conservatives got "conned". All I see is conservative actions and policies that even the most conservative in Washington wouldn't even attempt to tackle.

That's the problem with lying. Eventually, you begin to believe even your own lies. That's exactly what happened with the "Trump isn't a conservative" liberal lie.
 
I'm waiting. Tell me about all the liberal policies and agendas that Trump is pushing.

I keep hearing about how all conservatives got "conned". All I see is conservative actions and policies that even the most conservative in Washington wouldn't even attempt to tackle.

That's the problem with lying. Eventually, you begin to believe even your own lies. That's exactly what happened with the "Trump isn't a conservative" liberal lie.
A trillion dollar infrastructure package isn't conservative.
Promising "everyone will have insurance" isn't conservative. He's also expressed an affinity for single payers, just like Bernie.
Attacking free trade agreements isn't conservative.
Attacking our post-WW2 security arrangements, like NATO, isn't conservative.
Praising an enemy like Vladimir Putin while criticizing allies like Germany and England isn't conservative.
Using lots of executive orders to circumvent the Congress isn't conservative.
Cutting a deal with Schumer and Pelosi over the debt ceiling isn't conservative.
A tax plan that swells the deficit isn't conservative.
Should I go on?
He's a populist and an opportunist.
 
The economic metrics when obummer took over for W were worse than October 1929 with the economy purging 800k jobs a month.

I'm not sure anything other than killing the subsidies is strickly "conservative." Reagan didn't build a wall. He didn't ban people from Muslim counties. He didn't scuttle our international agreements and he negotiated with the USSR. Maybe you aren't conservative either.

Who said Reagan was the measuring-stick for conservatives? Trump is like Reagan on steriods.

E#very sinlge thing I put on that list of something conservatives want and exactly what Trump promises when elected.

And you're actually right about Mosul. I meant Kirkuk. Interesting bedfellows we've made there, right? It's almost like the invasion of Iraq vastly expanded the power of Iran. Good stuff. Again, entirely predictable.

On the Islamic State - they were already being rolled up when 45 came into office. And the strategy has not changed appreciably because the strategy was already working.

No, it wasn't. ISIS ran loose for years under Obama. Trump changed the game by getting rid of Obama's stupid rules of engagement that the military hated and prevented victory.

As for your thoughts on the economy. Laughable is right. Obama took over when the economy was shedding 800k jobs a month and the economic metrics were worse than October 1929. When he left office, the economy was humming along with steady growth, low unemployment and low inflation. The fact you can't concede what's demonstrably true says everything about your objectivity.

Then why do we have a record number of people on food stamps and other government assistance? Because it was all a smoke and mirrors lie. Printing money and absurdly low interest rates.

But you are right. Bill Clinton's housing market collapse was certainly a catastrophe. Even he admitted he shouldn't have did what he did. Amazing. Maybe people should actually be required to proven they can afford a loan they apply for.

In the end, BUSH fixed the crisis in the last 5 months of his Presidency. TARP was created and implemented under his watch. The crisis was over before Obama entered off. All he did was come in and pass an almost $1 trillion spend bill that was nothing more than a slush fund that produced almost nothing. Then he immediately starting pushing his Obamacare bill that made businesses certainly didn't consider friendly with all the rules and penalties. Stupidity like "cash for clunkers" certainly didn't fix anything. Our economy recovered in spite of him, not because of him.


And why do you keep referring to Rep Wilson as a liar? Her story was confirmed by the widow. Ah, right, the objectivity thing again.

Because context matter. She isn't lying about the words. She is lying about the context. General Kelly overheard it all and said nutjob Wilson was misrepresenting what Trump said.

Saying "he knew what he signed up for" alone seems terrible. Saying "he knew what he signed up for, yet he did it anyway because he was a hero that was willing to give the ultimate sacrifice for his country" is something entirely different.

Shameful lie by that cowboy hat wearing nutjob Wilson. But not even remotely surprising. Democrats will say anything and use any situation to take a shot at Trump. Disgusting.
 
A trillion dollar infrastructure package isn't conservative.

Conservatives most certainly have supported large infrastructure packages in the past.

Promising "everyone will have insurance" isn't conservative. He's also expressed an affinity for single payers, just like Bernie.

Trump is not supporting single payer. And conservatives certainly do support everyone having insurance, they just don't think it is the government place to provide it for everyone.

Attacking free trade agreements isn't conservative.

He isn't attacking free trade agreements. He is attacking unfair trade agreements.

Attacking our post-WW2 security arrangements, like NATO, isn't conservative.

Expecting NATO members to pay their fair share is certainly conservatives.

Praising an enemy like Vladimir Putin while criticizing allies like Germany and England isn't conservative.

Nothing more than political rhetoric. His policies speak for themselves, and they are most certainly conservative.

Using lots of executive orders to circumvent the Congress isn't conservative.

Many being to undo Obama's executive orders, some of which were ruled illegal. Most certainly conservative.

Cutting a deal with Schumer and Pelosi over the debt ceiling isn't conservative.

He had no other option other than shutdown the government, and he would most assuredly get the blame for that, even it the democrats were the ones refusing to approve an extension without stipulations.

A tax plan that swells the deficit isn't conservative.

No proof it will do that.

Should I go on?
He's a populist and an opportunist.

He's smart and he knows exactly what he is doing. But keep believing your own "he isn't a conservative" lies and see what happens over the next 3 years.
 
Who said Reagan was the measuring-stick for conservatives? Trump is like Reagan on steriods.

E#very sinlge thing I put on that list of something conservatives want and exactly what Trump promises when elected.



No, it wasn't. ISIS ran loose for years under Obama. Trump changed the game by getting rid of Obama's stupid rules of engagement that the military hated and prevented victory.



Then why do we have a record number of people on food stamps and other government assistance? Because it was all a smoke and mirrors lie. Printing money and absurdly low interest rates.

But you are right. Bill Clinton's housing market collapse was certainly a catastrophe. Even he admitted he shouldn't have did what he did. Amazing. Maybe people should actually be required to proven they can afford a loan they apply for.

In the end, BUSH fixed the crisis in the last 5 months of his Presidency. TARP was created and implemented under his watch. The crisis was over before Obama entered off. All he did was come in and pass an almost $1 trillion spend bill that was nothing more than a slush fund that produced almost nothing. Then he immediately starting pushing his Obamacare bill that made businesses certainly didn't consider friendly with all the rules and penalties. Stupidity like "cash for clunkers" certainly didn't fix anything. Our economy recovered in spite of him, not because of him.




Because context matter. She isn't lying about the words. She is lying about the context. General Kelly overheard it all and said nutjob Wilson was misrepresenting what Trump said.

Saying "he knew what he signed up for" alone seems terrible. Saying "he knew what he signed up for, yet he did it anyway because he was a hero that was willing to give the ultimate sacrifice for his country" is something entirely different.

Shameful lie by that cowboy hat wearing nutjob Wilson. But not even remotely surprising. Democrats will say anything and use any situation to take a shot at Trump. Disgusting.
You conveniently fail to mention what his widow said. Trump lacks empathy and inartfully tried to be human. Rather than say he could've put it better, he dissembles and lies and drags General Kelly's son into it. He's a lousy person and all but you dead enders know it.
 
Conservatives most certainly have supported large infrastructure packages in the past.



Trump is not supporting single payer. And conservatives certainly do support everyone having insurance, they just don't think it is the government place to provide it for everyone.



He isn't attacking free trade agreements. He is attacking unfair trade agreements.



Expecting NATO members to pay their fair share is certainly conservatives.



Nothing more than political rhetoric. His policies speak for themselves, and they are most certainly conservative.



Many being to undo Obama's executive orders, some of which were ruled illegal. Most certainly conservative.



He had no other option other than shutdown the government, and he would most assuredly get the blame for that, even it the democrats were the ones refusing to approve an extension without stipulations.



No proof it will do that.



He's smart and he knows exactly what he is doing. But keep believing your own "he isn't a conservative" lies and see what happens over the next 3 years.
Dissembling, redefining, excusing. It's all you have left.

Trump is a rightwing populist. But most of all, he's an abject failure. Even with a Republican Congress: Wall - no. Infrastructure - no. O care repeal - no. Tax cuts - no. Travel ban - blocked. Fired comey, gets a special prosecutor. Etc, etc. His version of governance looks like Trump U. Maybe he'll give you a Trump steak for being so loyal, Bob.
 
Dissembling, redefining, excusing. It's all you have left.

Trump is a rightwing populist. But most of all, he's an abject failure. Even with a Republican Congress: Wall - no. Infrastructure - no. O care repeal - no. Tax cuts - no. Travel ban - blocked. Fired comey, gets a special prosecutor. Etc, etc. His version of governance looks like Trump U. Maybe he'll give you a Trump steak for being so loyal, Bob.
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Shhh you might hurt his feelings. He was on a roll too....in his own mind.
 
No he doesn't. Liberals are just mad because he doesn't want to flood the country with illegals and muslims, destroy anything white and/or Christian, and make working people hand over most of their salary to the government so they can hand out cash to the lazy and stupid to get their vote. You know, the Democratic Party platform.
Don’t try to reason with these guys. They’re blinded by liberalism. They believe what the Drive by media tell them. They believe what they want to be true. I’m still waiting on one of them to answer my question about Obama and Hillary but they won’t go there. See liberals can’t win with ideas. They have to resort to personal attacts.
 
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Dissembling, redefining, excusing. It's all you have left.

Wrong. Just sifting through the lies and misleading statements.

Trump is a rightwing populist. But most of all, he's an abject failure. Even with a Republican Congress: Wall - no. Infrastructure - no. O care repeal - no. Tax cuts - no. Travel ban - blocked. Fired comey, gets a special prosecutor. Etc, etc. His version of governance looks like Trump U. Maybe he'll give you a Trump steak for being so loyal, Bob.

But keep telling yourself the lies and keep believing them.

Bet you believed the lying media and their polls before the election. How did that work out for you?
 
Yea when Americans died Obama couldn’t wait to get out and play golf. Real classy. He let Isis grow out of control. Trump will never sell our country out like Obama did. I could go on and on but this is a gamecock football board.
Give up already!
 
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