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Let's see if Dabo pulls offers on two 5 stars.,,,,,,,

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Check out the article below on 2 of Clemson's 5 star recruits taking a secret weekend visit to Auburn. Clemson fans are already making up bull about Dabo giving the two his blessings to take the trip. Let's see how much of a man of principle Dabo is. They would be gone if they were 3 star players.

Auburn hosts Clemson 5 Star Commits
 
First of all, having a policy that no recruits can visit other schools or their scholarships will be pulled is just absolutely ridiculous. Secondly, he didn't give his blessings. Why would he want 5-star recruits to visit other schools on the last weekend? Finally, he will not pull the scholarships. Just a bunch of hot air as usual.
 
Originally posted by section2cock:
Check out the article below on 2 of Clemson's 5 star recruits taking a secret weekend visit to Auburn. Clemson fans are already making up bull about Dabo giving the two his blessings to take the trip. Let's see how much of a man of principle Dabo is. They would be gone if they were 3 star players.
It's funny Dabo won't pull the offer... That should be a message to all recruits to Clemson... If you're not a 5 star, forget being treated like a rock star... 4 star will get you nothing... 3 star will get you a left over offer after everyone signs... Anything below 3 star, can walk on the scout team...
 
Adding a post to the thread is what wasted your time. Move on to another thread if you don't like it.
 
That rule is directly related to the player ratings like was mentioned above. 3 star or below and you visit someone else after committing and offer will be pulled. 4 or 5 star and you should be ok.
 
This recruitment will turn into whose Money Bags are deeper... Auburn proved with Scam Newton they had deep pockets. Can Clemson match the $ is the question to retain the recruits?
 
Do the in house taters feel the same way as your coach on committed recruits taking other visits?
 
These last minute visits by some recruits are just that - let's see just "how bad" ($$$$$) these FB programs want us.
 
I hve really never understood you guys calling out Dabo on this isue. It is true that he discourages commts from taking other visits after they commit. It is also true that he tells them that Clemson's commitment is 100% as strong as theirs. What that means is if you are out visiting others , and we find someone we like as much or more we may pull yur offer. That seems reasonable. It happens often with a 2 or 3 star, is less likely with a 4 star, and nt very likely at all with a 5 star.

there is absolutely nothing unusual about it. You can criticize Dabo on a lot of fronts, but recruiting is not one of them!

-Esso
 
It was only a matter of time before we got the spin job on this one. His rules are hypocritical so we shouldnt expect you to agree on this one.
 
Does Auburn have a better situation to sell to these kids with established Malzahn and Rhett Lashlee and Will Muschamp vs a school that just lost it's Offensive Coordinator and has a defense that will be rebuilding?

Auburn hosted two big-time surprise visitors this weekend in Clemson commits, 5-star Ray-Ray McCloud III. Auburn visited with both Cain and McCloud III last week while they were in Tampa, Fla. Can the Tigers sway either or both?



Here's what sources are telling Auburn**********.com, first, about Cain.

The No. 19 overall player in the 247Sports Composite flirted with an Auburn visit on Jan. 16, but couldn't make it all happen. Instead, Cain waited and Auburn kept recruiting. Auburn visited Cain earlier this week and set the visit up and Cain was supposed to leave for Auburn on Friday, but he ended up not arriving until Saturday morning.

The reason?


Cain talked to Clemson before his visit and notified them that he was leaving for Auburn on Friday. The problem was that Clemson was scheduled to be in town that day to visit Cain, so Cain made the decision to remain in town and visit with the Clemson coaches before leaving on Saturday morning. Cain almost bailed on visiting with the Clemson coaches to head to Auburn on Friday, but it didn't happen. Regardless, Auburn feels like they are under consideration. Tigers' offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee spent the majority of his time with Cain over the two days, that ended with Cain leaving late Sunday afternoon.


As for McCloud III, Auburn may be a stronger contender. New Tigers' defensive back coach Travaris Robinson was recruiting McCloud III to Florida before leaving for Auburn, and spent his entire weekend with McCloud III and his family. Sources indicate that Robinson believes they have a "nice shot" at landing McCloud III, but are still considered the underdog.

Bottom line: If Auburn wasn't in the hunt for both, they wouldn't have visited.

This post was edited on 2/2 4:20 PM by 2u0s0c1
 
Auburn has money to burn, plus they recruit every 5 star and 4 star kid coming out of high school providing they have a heartbeat.
 
Originally posted by EssoClub2:
I hve really never understood you guys calling out Dabo on this isue. It is true that he discourages commts from taking other visits after they commit. It is also true that he tells them that Clemson's commitment is 100% as strong as theirs. What that means is if you are out visiting others , and we find someone we like as much or more we may pull yur offer. That seems reasonable. It happens often with a 2 or 3 star, is less likely with a 4 star, and nt very likely at all with a 5 star.

there is absolutely nothing unusual about it. You can criticize Dabo on a lot of fronts, but recruiting is not one of them!

-Esso
Because he actually threatened a recruit with this crap (pulling scholly) plus we don't like your little coach. How's that?
 
Originally posted by Birdiecock:

Originally posted by EssoClub2:
I hve really never understood you guys calling out Dabo on this isue. It is true that he discourages commts from taking other visits after they commit. It is also true that he tells them that Clemson's commitment is 100% as strong as theirs. What that means is if you are out visiting others , and we find someone we like as much or more we may pull yur offer. That seems reasonable. It happens often with a 2 or 3 star, is less likely with a 4 star, and nt very likely at all with a 5 star.

there is absolutely nothing unusual about it. You can criticize Dabo on a lot of fronts, but recruiting is not one of them!

-Esso
Because he actually threatened a recruit with this crap (pulling scholly) plus we don't like your little coach. How's that?
Birdie, he actually pulled at least 2 scholarships but it was not because the kids visited another school. It was because the lied and tried to go behind his back. Rivalry aside, that is where his "principals" are.
 
Originally posted by kickassblaster:

Originally posted by Birdiecock:

Originally posted by EssoClub2:
I hve really never understood you guys calling out Dabo on this isue. It is true that he discourages commts from taking other visits after they commit. It is also true that he tells them that Clemson's commitment is 100% as strong as theirs. What that means is if you are out visiting others , and we find someone we like as much or more we may pull yur offer. That seems reasonable. It happens often with a 2 or 3 star, is less likely with a 4 star, and nt very likely at all with a 5 star.

there is absolutely nothing unusual about it. You can criticize Dabo on a lot of fronts, but recruiting is not one of them!

-Esso
Because he actually threatened a recruit with this crap (pulling scholly) plus we don't like your little coach. How's that?
Birdie, he actually pulled at least 2 scholarships but it was not because the kids visited another school. It was because the lied and tried to go behind his back. Rivalry aside, that is where his "principals" are.


Whatever. Watson lied. Try again.

Pants on Fire- 'later denied'
 
Regardless of policy and whether or not they told Dabo before their visit to Auburn, which I heard that they told him and he didn't want them too, Dabo is not going to pull offers to players of this caliber. No way.
 
In Clemson's recruiting lingo, 'commitment' not to be taken lightly

De-commitment of NC offensive lineman R.J. Prince underscores Dabo Swinney's policy on verbal pledges

Posted February 12, 2012 at 10 a.m

When a prospect declares his interest in making an early commitment to Clemson, often one of the first things Dabo Swinney does is to try talking him out of it.

Call him old-fashioned if you want, but Swinney doesn't want to hear about commitment, in the recruiting sense, unless it's backed by…well, for the lack of a better word, commitment.

To Swinney and his staff, once a player commits, it should be a done-deal. No more visits, official or otherwise. No talk of 'soft' commitments. No de-commitments or re-commitments.

If a player has doubts, any whatsoever, Swinney would rather that the coveted teenager, whatever his star status, keep his pledge to himself.

The Tiger coaching staff has proven again and again that if a recruit is worth their interest on the front end, they're willing to go the distance - all the way to a hat-picking ceremony on Signing Day afternoon, if necessary.

But sometimes recruits insist on committing and then playing the game by their own rules; and during Swinney's short tenure at Clemson, that has most often resulted in the end of the recruiting relationship.

It happened in 2010 with running back Marlin Lane of Daytona Beach, FL and defensive back Geraldo Orta of Valdosta, GA, both of whom were committed to Clemson at one time, chose to continue to visit other schools; and they ultimately closed the door behind them.

Enter young R.J. Prince - one of North Carolina's more highly-rated offensively linemen for the class of 2013.

Prince made an unofficial visit to Clemson for a game last fall, and shortly thereafter announced himself as the Tigers' first commitment for next year's recruiting class.

Afterwards, the in-state schools turned up the recruiting heat, and Prince chose to listen.

Wednesday, he visited Chapel Hill for a 'Junior Day' held in conjunction with UNC's big home basketball game against Duke. Clemson's coaches took exception to his move; and on Friday Prince announced his de-commitment from Clemson and hinted that the Tar Heels may now be at the top of his list.

Whether Clemson will continue to pursue Prince is anybody's guess.

Offensive linemen won't be a high priority in next year's class, as the focus shifts back to skill players on the offensive side of the ball. The Tigers just signed four in their 2012 class, and all are enrolled for this semester. Swinney said on Signing Day that he'll likely be looking for "a couple" of linemen in 2013.

Clemson currently has offers out to roughly half a dozen players.

Sooner or later, someone will be ready to commit. But before he does, he'll most certainly have to listen to Swinney's lecture about what 'commitment' really means.

http://www.orangeandwhite.com/news/2012/feb/12/clemsons-recruiting-lingo-commitment-not-be-taken/?preventMobileRedirect=1
 
In other recruiting news:
DE Isaac McDonald of Hialeah, Fla.,, who had committed to Clemson in early March, is no longer committed to Clemson. He and the Tigers decided to part ways after he made visits to other schools with one of his assistant coaches and some teammates. Clemson coach Dabo Swinney then pulled his offer to McDonald because of his policy forbidding his commitments to take other visits.

This post was edited on 2/2 11:05 PM by cockyclay

'Policy'
 
This one tells how childish dabo is.....


Clemson loses commitment from McDonald
By Phil Kornblut
DE Isaac McDonald of Hialeah, FL, who had committed to Clemson in early March, is no longer committed to Clemson. In fact, according to a source, Clemson has ended its recruiting activities with McDonald. This comes after McDonald went on unofficial visits to other schools with one of his assistant coaches and some teammates.

According to several tweets this morning by McDonald's assistant coach Jon Drummond, Tiger head coach Dabo Swinney hung up on Drummond during a phone conversation about those visits.

Following are the tweets on Drummond's Twitter page @genron187)

"man a coach today tried me and one of my kids.....oh hell naw. Stay tuned for something tomorrow. Weak add Clemson"

"In 8 yrs I've never steered a kid wrong"

"Clemson gon tell me I shouldn't have taken a player in visits...man they crazy as hell. A verbal commitment dnt mean u own a kid"

"They cut from the list and consideration....and coach D slams the phone setup like we owe him. S***t they can have that attitude n shove it"

"Clemson with that BS, but I bet they let committed players on their campus all day any day....smh keeping it moving"

"they had the jump on everyone and my kid never wavered about his commitment. Even when he picked up Oregon and OKstate"

"I'm obligated to my kids and their families first before any school. Lol I'll never let a school bully a kid."

"Idk what a school says, I'll will always take my kids out of the city and show them places they might never go again. It's bigger than sport"

"Well it's a unfortunate rule for them. Kids have once in a lifetime to enjoy the process. How dare you say they can't! Smh"

"I can't let anyone do that. How about them being committed to the kid and trusting the kid and coach?"

"however, they don't care about the kid or their environment. They are all out for self gain to boast themselves."

"the kid turned down Oregon and Bama. He was committed, it's unfortunate they had no faith. On to the next one"

"For Ike it's between Ore, WVU, and two others now"

"If he is so concerned about verbals seeing other campuses then why is he going hard after UM commit Kearse? Cant have both ways"

"Well to let you know he was not looking elsewhere. He's told Bama, Ore, WVU he was committed... But trust is a two way street"

McDonald's head coach, Mike Tunsil, said this morning he does not deal with recruiting thru Twitter and was "very dissapointed in all this." Tunsil said he planned to talk with Clemson coaches as soon as he could.
 
Bottom line, Dabo is kicking our ass in recruiting. If they go on a 3 or 4 year run beating us on the field, this ain't going to be very funny.

Jr needs to get off his ass.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 
You guys do realize that clemson's class is usually ranked higher than ours right? Like, even during the streak.
 
Originally posted by EssoClub2:
I hve really never understood you guys calling out Dabo on this isue. It is true that he discourages commts from taking other visits after they commit. It is also true that he tells them that Clemson's commitment is 100% as strong as theirs. What that means is if you are out visiting others , and we find someone we like as much or more we may pull yur offer. That seems reasonable. It happens often with a 2 or 3 star, is less likely with a 4 star, and nt very likely at all with a 5 star.

there is absolutely nothing unusual about it. You can criticize Dabo on a lot of fronts, but recruiting is not one of them!

-Esso
That's funny. Kornblut, recruiting guru in SC for 30 years, has called Dabo out on his show multiple times for this recruiting philosophy hypocrisy.
This post was edited on 2/3 9:25 AM by sclawman77
 
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