Link to article on the overwhelming percentage of AD's that support expanded playoff...

[Bad seed]

...for college football. Thanks for continuing to ruin the greatest sport ever.

https://watchstadium.com/college-football-playoff-expansion-athletic-directors-04-07-2020/

 

[bucketdad]

This whole Power 5 thing is starting to look silly given how good the AAC has been.

 

[Chanticleer37]

Fantastic! I'm sure they will have it changed by 2037.

 

[king ward]

They can't keep it at four soon enough to suit me.

 

[GwinnettGamecock]

They just want more money. They don't care about the sport or fans.

It's like a human version of the paper clip simulator game.

 

[OldWiseCock]

Why not expand it? Lower divisions have had a football playoff system for a long time. The only reason I can think of to be against it is because it threatens the Power 5 status quo because schools like Central Florida might get into the playoff and beat someone important.

 

[king ward]

Why not expand it? Lower divisions have had a football playoff system for a long time. The only reason I can think of to be against it is because it threatens the Power 5 status quo because schools like Central Florida might get into the playoff and beat someone important.

Adding more teams only brings in less excellence because you're going to double participation at a minimum. Leave it alone.

 

[OldWiseCock]

Adding more teams only brings in less excellence because you're going to double participation at a minimum. Leave it alone.

I'd be in favor of expanding it to 8 teams and extending the season 1 more week in January.

 

[Hawkgamecock]

This whole Power 5 thing is starting to look silly given how good the AAC has been.

And how bad the ACC is.

 

[92Pony]

I'd be in favor of expanding it to 8 teams and extending the season 1 more week in January.

Perfect.

Well, that, and IMO, COMPLETELY remove conference tie-ins. THE. BEST. EIGHT. IN. Regardless of conference or final conference standing. The if top eight teams in the land are all in the SEC, then so be it. If it’s 4 from the PAC and 4 from the ACC (both laughers, I know), then so be it. No crappy “conference champs” over a potentially better non-conference-champ from another conference.
I realize I’m relatively in the minority on that, but.....

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

I've always believed the expansion of playoff teams was inevitable, which is why I never bothered to engage in the debate "should they or shouldn't they".
It's going to happen.
I do agree that a "conference champion" shouldn't get automatic qualification status. With every P5 conference having a championship game, the day is going to happen when a 8-4 or 9-3 team happens to win. And, then watch the fireworks happen when a higher ranked team gets bumped out.

 

[king ward]

I'd be in favor of expanding it to 8 teams and extending the season 1 more week in January.

I would not be in favor of expanding it ever.

 

[OldWiseCock]

Perfect.

Well, that, and IMO, COMPLETELY remove conference tie-ins. THE. BEST. EIGHT. IN. Regardless of conference or final conference standing. The if top eight teams in the land are all in the SEC, then so be it. If it’s 4 from the PAC and 4 from the ACC (both laughers, I know), then so be it. No crappy “conference champs” over a potentially better non-conference-champ from another conference.
I realize I’m relatively in the minority on that, but.....

So far I like the way they have picked the four teams. Yes, you can quibble sometimes about #4 - 6, but for the most part they have gotten it right. But no conference tie-ins. I guess the risk is if they go to 8 there might be a lot of pressure for conference champions to get an automatic berth. That would be a mistake IMHO.

 

[king ward]

So far I like the way they have picked the four teams. Yes, you can quibble sometimes about #4 - 6, but for the most part they have gotten it right. But no conference tie-ins. I guess the risk is if they go to 8 there might be a lot of pressure for conference champions to get an automatic berth. That would be a mistake IMHO.

It would automatically debunk the entire process.

 

[OldWiseCock]

It would automatically debunk the entire process.

I would go as far as 5 tie-ins and 3 at large invites. No further.

 

[Horseshoe 04]

We are already struggling to get 4 worthy teams consistently from year to year in this grand age of “Parity “, so why would we want another 2 or 4 more road kills and call them playoff teams?

might as well carve up the US into 4 regions and have 64 (or 68) if we need to take care of those mid major play in games, and shorten the regular season to 5 or 6 games.

did you ever think these programs are in favor of expansion because they haven’t sniffed or reached the top 5..........doesn’t make it a good idea.

sometimes you have to go beat the big dog and take their spot. Get to work

 

[JDishnell]

So far I like the way they have picked the four teams. Yes, you can quibble sometimes about #4 - 6, but for the most part they have gotten it right. But no conference tie-ins. I guess the risk is if they go to 8 there might be a lot of pressure for conference champions to get an automatic berth. That would be a mistake IMHO.

Agreed. Expanding the playoff won't solve anything either. No matter what number you expand to, those on the outside fringe looking in will complain. For Pete's sake, the NCAAT has 66 teams (or whatever it is now) and you still have teams complaining about not getting in.

Further, expanding the playoffs renders the regular season more and more meaningless. Why should a team of LSU's caliber be forced to prove how good they are by playing an extra game? At some point, enough is enough. I see the expansion as creating a scenario where you get teams winning the title who really weren't the best, which is the opposite of what the playoffs are supposed to do.

 

[JDishnell]

We are already struggling to get 4 worthy teams consistently from year to year in this grand age of “Parody “, so why would we want another 2 or 4 more road kills and call them playoff teams?

might as well carve up the US into 4 regions and have 64 (or 68) if we need to take care of those mid major play in games, and shorten the regular season to 5 or 6 games.

did you ever think these programs are in favor of expansion because they haven’t sniffed or reached the top 5..........doesn’t make it a good idea.

sometimes you have to go beat the big dog and take their spot. Get to work

Dang, that was dead on. If you want to be in the playoffs, play your way into the top 4.

 

[JDishnell]

Has anyone ever looked at the #8 team in the country and thought "what a shame, they really deserve to be playing for the title"???

 

[Horseshoe 04]

Has anyone ever looked at the #8 team in the country and thought "what a shame, they really deserve to be playing for the title"???

right, of they go lose to UCF, for someone in a bowl

 

[paladin181]

Perfect.

Well, that, and IMO, COMPLETELY remove conference tie-ins. THE. BEST. EIGHT. IN. Regardless of conference or final conference standing. The if top eight teams in the land are all in the SEC, then so be it. If it’s 4 from the PAC and 4 from the ACC (both laughers, I know), then so be it. No crappy “conference champs” over a potentially better non-conference-champ from another conference.
I realize I’m relatively in the minority on that, but.....

Even the NFL doesn't do this. You can have a 9-7 division champ but a 10-6 3rd place finisher in another division can get snubbed.

 

[paladin181]

We are already struggling to get 4 worthy teams consistently from year to year in this grand age of “Parody “, so why would we want another 2 or 4 more road kills and call them playoff teams?

might as well carve up the US into 4 regions and have 64 (or 68) if we need to take care of those mid major play in games, and shorten the regular season to 5 or 6 games.

did you ever think these programs are in favor of expansion because they haven’t sniffed or reached the top 5..........doesn’t make it a good idea.

sometimes you have to go beat the big dog and take their spot. Get to work

Please tell me you know it's Parity and not Parody...

 

[king ward]

I would go as far as 5 tie-ins and 3 at large invites. No further.

Tie-ins guarantee what doesn't belong. Four. Period. Forever.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

Want to make bowl games mean something again, like they did when I was growing up? Go to a 16 team playoff. Get rid of all the superfluous bowl games. Who needs to see .500 and sub .500 teams play anyway? Playoffs are good enough for the other sports, college and pro. It should be so for college football. Let's face it, if you're THAT good, you shouldn't have to worry about how many games you have to play for a Championship.

There were only 18 bowl games in 1991, my Freshman fall at Carolina. Now there are 40. WTH?????? I know, it's all about the money. However, there is no way all those bowl games actually make money, with the empty seats in the stadiums.

 

[Horseshoe 04]

Please tell me you know it's Parity and not Parody...

your probably right, but it could be a little of both. I take it more seriously when King corrects me, but thanks for the effort anywayz

 

[king ward]

... Get rid of all the superfluous bowl games. Who needs to see .500 and sub .500 teams play anyway? ...

I agree with this irrespective of the playoffs. Welcome back from Lent. Happy Easter.

 

[SCexpat38]

Adding more teams only brings in less excellence because you're going to double participation at a minimum. Leave it alone.

I'd almost agree with this except as the CFP is now it makes it virtually impossible for most FBS programs to compete for a title in their own division. It's in no way shape or form a level playing field.

That said, I don't know if an expanded playoff would work -- and I'm a fan of the lower classifications (I-AA, etc) -- because I believe the deck will still be stacked against all but the elite programs.

But at least the expansion would give additional programs a (long) shot, every now and then.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

I agree with this irrespective of the playoffs. Welcome back from Lent. Happy Easter.

Thank you. To you as well.

Yes, I would be fine with no changes to the Playoffs if we got rid of all the extra bowl games.

 

[JDishnell]

Raise the bar to 9 wins for a bowl. That puts meaning back into but. keeps it with quality teams competing against each other.

Stick with the 4 team playoff. The playoffs have not taken away from what all the other bowl games mean. Don’t understand this fanatical desire by some suddenly find meaning in bowl games.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

Raise the bar to 9 wins for a bowl. That puts meaning back into but. keeps it with quality teams competing against each other.

Stick with the 4 team playoff. The playoffs have not taken away from what all the other bowl games mean. Don’t understand this fanatical desire by some suddenly find meaning in bowl games.

Still won't have enough teams with 9 wins to fill 40 bowls. Therefore, we get rid of the superfluous bowl games.

 

[Horseshoe 04]

the numbers always work out ?

 

[JDishnell]

Still won't have enough teams with 9 wins to fill 40 bowls. Therefore, we get rid of the superfluous bowl games.

Well, yeah, that would be the purpose of raising the bar to 9 wins. It wasn't the playoffs that stripped the bowls of significance, it was the bowls.

We have to redefine what a good season is. Using 6 wins is an antiquated benchmark. Like we did in 2018, you can get to 6 wins without beating anyone of consequence. Nine wins is a much more appropriate benchmark for today's game.

 

[muscleknight]

Upsets happen in the NCAA basketball tourney every year. One good thing about expanding is that it would make Clemson have to play more than one game to get to the championship game. More chances for an upset.

 

[king ward]

Raise the bar to 9 wins for a bowl. That puts meaning back into but. keeps it with quality teams competing against each other.

Stick with the 4 team playoff. The playoffs have not taken away from what all the other bowl games mean. Don’t understand this fanatical desire by some suddenly find meaning in bowl games.

It's an extension of the contemporary cultural emphasis on validation, self-actualization, and ego gratification.