I lived in a highrise condo for 9 years and everyday I thought what if this thing fell. You never actually think it will. Sending out prayers to all the residents and families.
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I heard on the news they think it may be a terrorist attack since so many Jewish people live thereI lived in a highrise condo for 9 years and everyday I thought what if this thing fell. You never actually think it will. Sending out prayers to all the residents and families.
Could a sink hole cause the building to collapse like that?I heard on the news they think it may be a terrorist attack since so many Jewish people live there
Haven’t heard this. Honestly the coverage for this is so much less than if the media is trying to push their politics. 99 people are unaccounted for…which means this is very deadly. Shows that a lot of times it’s not about the lives of the people rather than the agendas that need to be pushed.I heard on the news they think it may be a terrorist attack since so many Jewish people live there
I don’t see that theory being pushed anywhere either. There was a study mentioned in one article that said they knew this building has been sinking since the 90s… Sounds like a foundation or sinkhole/ unstable ground issue.Haven’t heard this. Honestly the coverage for this is so much less than if the media is trying to push their politics. 99 people are unaccounted for…which means this is very deadly. Shows that a lot of times it’s not about the lives of the people rather than the agendas that need to be pushed.
Miami is loaded with Jewish people. I figured this would be a “theory” but hadn’t heard anyone credible pushing this.
Who put their reputation on the line to say this?I heard on the news they think it may be a terrorist attack since so many Jewish people live there
That was my very first thought. Lots of sinkhole problems in Fla.Could a sink hole cause the building to collapse like that?
BS! links? you are making $h!t up for some political reason im sure.I heard on the news they think it may be a terrorist attack since so many Jewish people live there
I'm not outright discounting this theory, but the sinkholes we hear about are mostly through Central and NW Florida,That was my very first thought. Lots of sinkhole problems in Fla.
Interesting lawsuit with the family of the victims suing the victims via the HOA.Apparently this building has been sinking for years if not decades . I’m sure there will be a massive lawsuit and there should be . There is no foul play involved at all . Nice try
And for good reason.Haven’t heard this. Honestly the coverage for this is so much less than if the media is trying to push their politics. 99 people are unaccounted for…which means this is very deadly. Shows that a lot of times it’s not about the lives of the people rather than the agendas that need to be pushed.
Miami is loaded with Jewish people. I figured this would be a “theory” but hadn’t heard anyone credible pushing this.
Looks like you are right. They are saying the building was on “reclaimed” land. So, sinking land, but not the usual sinkhole.I'm not outright discounting this theory, but the sinkholes we hear about are mostly through Central and NW Florida,
Keep in mind that Miami Beach is on a barrier island where these buildings are built on shifting sands, and the city of Miami Beach has been dealing with the problem of rising sea level for several years, which can exacerbate that problem.
It's not unusual to see some streets flood during high tide.
I’d imagine the building will be evacuated, shut down, and demolished. Gotta think the integrity of the entire structure has been compromised.I guess if you own one of the condo’s that wasn’t affected it’s worthless now. Who would stay in it, and who would buy it?
At least the mayor of Miami didn’t claim terrorism like the mayor if Ft. Lauderdale did without any proof.I’d imagine the building will be evacuated, shut down, and demolished. Gotta think the integrity of the entire structure has been compromised.
Not the right people group for false claims.At least the mayor of Miami didn’t claim terrorism like the mayor if Ft. Lauderdale did without any proof.
I would imagine any immediate surrounding condo's will suffer the same fate.I guess if you own one of the condo’s that wasn’t affected it’s worthless now. Who would stay in it, and who would buy it?
Completely different incident. Ft. L mayor was commenting on auto crash during a Pride Parade. As far as I know he has not made a public comment on the condo collapse in Surfside.At least the mayor of Miami didn’t claim terrorism like the mayor if Ft. Lauderdale did without any proof.
Chief, this building would have been built on pilings driven deep into the earth and not simply on excavated soil. There were some comments that the building shook when the adjacent structure pilings were driven which would occur since they drive into the same rock below. Additionally, a project like this requires third party testing of structural steel, pilings, any fill dirt and concrete samples from every pour. Engineers would have been required to inspect as well to ensure that the design was followed. You would have triple redundancy in inspections. All the data would be preserved and will be re-examined. Miami has some of the toughest building codes in the world because of their unique landscape. However, the constant exposure to salt and high winds are sure to affect any structure. That,s why at 40 years old, building must be examined and recertified. That process was just underway on this structure. My only question is, why did they start on the roof and not in the foundation ?I'd bet just about any amount of money that any structural components that are seen (above ground) were not the problem, the problem was below ground. Whether that be a sink hole, lot not compacted properly before foundation (possibly fill dirt involved), or the total structure not accounted for when the foundation was poured. Things can tend to be rushed in projects like this because of time limitations, and penalties to the GC if it runs over. Doesn't happen on such a large scale like this too often, but in residential (which I'm more familiar with) it happens more than it should. People cut corners, and dirt does what it does, settles and shifts.
I bet the contractor started that lying bu11$hitI heard on the news they think it may be a terrorist attack since so many Jewish people live there
Sad situation indeed.Haven’t heard this. Honestly the coverage for this is so much less than if the media is trying to push their politics. 99 people are unaccounted for…which means this is very deadly. Shows that a lot of times it’s not about the lives of the people rather than the agendas that need to be pushed.
Miami is loaded with Jewish people. I figured this would be a “theory” but hadn’t heard anyone credible pushing this.
This is a tragedy that’s off the charts. Can’t imagine what the families are feeling and going through right now. They hear banging sounds coming from the rubble, but no voices. So sad to think people could still be alive and trapped in there and may not be rescued.
You definitely don't live in the low country. We deal with flooding every day it rains. Engineering not up to standards! That's the problem. Bad engineering with new construction very close by taking place for a while now. That would be my first guess.I'm not outright discounting this theory, but the sinkholes we hear about are mostly through Central and NW Florida,
Keep in mind that Miami Beach is on a barrier island where these buildings are built on shifting sands, and the city of Miami Beach has been dealing with the problem of rising sea level for several years, which can exacerbate that problem.
It's not unusual to see some streets flood during high tide.
Retaliation for the space lasers?I heard on the news they think it may be a terrorist attack since so many Jewish people live there
LOL. I live a few miles north of there on the 18th floor of our building. I have never consider it collapsing. But the Association announced that they will be having it inspected ASAP. Good times for Structural Engineers in MIA.I heard on the news they think it may be a terrorist attack since so many Jewish people live there
In the 10 years that we have been here I can tell you the ocean has not moved, still right where it was. If you watched Al Gore’s movie I think he predicted that we would already be under water.In 80 years Miami beach and most waterfront properties in Miami may be under water. I dont know why they are still building new waterfront real estate. Guess you live for now.
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Im hearing that salt infused groundwater has been destroying the concrete and steel pilings over time.Apparently this building has been sinking for years if not decades . I’m sure there will be a massive lawsuit and there should be . There is no foul play involved at all . Nice try