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My BEST Friend In LifeIs A Clemson Tiger

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He ain't a 'bad' guy ... hell, he's a GREAT guy!
CPA, multiple business owner, substantial employer, married to a gal that on a 10-scale is a 12 (she's a tar heel).

We were at lunch yesterday and (he) was talking about 'responsibility'. I only know what he said ...

Seems Dabo surrounded himself with 103 football players and asked 'How many of you are fathers'? - Supposedly, TWENTY-SEVEN (27) hands went up! How many of you have two or more kids? - 11 hands. How many of you with kids are married? - 3

My buddy said he just shook his head and left the room.

Then (my friend) - lit into me!!! - saying "don't give me any $hit; your guy Victor Hampton had 3,4, 5 kids didn't he?"

I said "I don't know. I know he got in trouble in a NY nightclub and in some kind of mess with his sister on S. Beltline Blvd. - that's all I know.."

It DID get me to thinking, though. SOS has recruited some really good 'kids' since he's been here. FEW problems, few embarrassments, few troublemakers or prima donnas.

I don't know if it's 'true' - I ain't a Clemson guy. I DO KNOW the HBC has seemingly put as much emphasis on 'character' as he has 'skill' in recruiting, and for that ... I'm appreciative.

My big bit%h at lunch is an inability to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid 40-yard kickoff returns.,
 
Seems Dabo surrounded himself with 103 football players and asked 'How many of you are fathers'? - Supposedly, TWENTY-SEVEN (27) hands went up!

That is indicative of a serious problem. Thank you Coach Spurrier and crew for bringing quality people into our program. Let the desperate little brothers bring in all Fat Bradstard type Flash and Trash they want. We all know how that will work out for them.
 
Players having children is indicative of a serious problem? Sure, it can be a sign of youthful irresponsibility, but it can also be a motivating factor and a reason to stay OUT of future trouble. It's all about perception.
 
Yea, it's the 21st century, people have kids before getting married, get over it. At least those guys admit to having kids rather than running from it
 
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Yea, it's the 21st century, people have kids before getting married, get over it. At least those guys admit to having kids rather than running from it

if true the correct response is how many of those children have fathers? We all know the answer to that question, we see it on the evening news day after day and pay for it with our taxes!
 
Yea, it's the 21st century, people have kids before getting married, get over it. At least those guys admit to having kids rather than running from it

Having children out of wedlock is irresponsible and uncalled for. Some folks need to get right with God AND good citizenship - get married and stay together while the children are still young enough to be your responsibility - otherwise, check with your local pharmacist. They'll be happy to show you how to avoid the problem of 'baby production' for just a few dollars. Simple.
 
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He ain't a 'bad' guy ... hell, he's a GREAT guy!
CPA, multiple business owner, substantial employer, married to a gal that on a 10-scale is a 12 (she's a tar heel).

We were at lunch yesterday and (he) was talking about 'responsibility'. I only know what he said ...

Seems Dabo surrounded himself with 103 football players and asked 'How many of you are fathers'? - Supposedly, TWENTY-SEVEN (27) hands went up! How many of you have two or more kids? - 11 hands. How many of you with kids are married? - 3

My buddy said he just shook his head and left the room.

Then (my friend) - lit into me!!! - saying "don't give me any $hit; your guy Victor Hampton had 3,4, 5 kids didn't he?"

I said "I don't know. I know he got in trouble in a NY nightclub and in some kind of mess with his sister on S. Beltline Blvd. - that's all I know.."

It DID get me to thinking, though. SOS has recruited some really good 'kids' since he's been here. FEW problems, few embarrassments, few troublemakers or prima donnas.

I don't know if it's 'true' - I ain't a Clemson guy. I DO KNOW the HBC has seemingly put as much emphasis on 'character' as he has 'skill' in recruiting, and for that ... I'm appreciative.

My big bit%h at lunch is an inability to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid 40-yard kickoff returns.,
Yeah, but how many are catholics?
 
That is indicative of a serious problem. Thank you Coach Spurrier and crew for bringing quality people into our program. Let the desperate little brothers bring in all Fat Bradstard type Flash and Trash they want. We all know how that will work out for them.

It is a problem for society (and the kids).

However, I wouldn't criticize Dabo without knowing how many kids our team has. Whether more or less than Clempsun, I would bet it is still a number that is not good .
 
It is a problem for society (and the kids).

However, I wouldn't criticize Dabo without knowing how many kids our team has. Whether more or less than Clempsun, I would bet it is still a number that is not good .

I don't know and I don't know if my friend knows, he was repeating what he heard from another Clemson guy. It didn't surprise me ... and it didn't shock me, either. I knew several guys on the football team with kids when I was at 'Carolina - that was not 'unusual' - what's 'different' TODAY is back then ALL those guys were 'married'.
 
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My son grew up in Williams Brice on Saturdays....he married a clemsux girl and now sports a tigglet paw tattoo. I love him but I do not love his team. He attended Midlands Tech so his loyalties did not lie with the Gamecocks as mine did. My grandson is a Gamecock through and through (loves his grandpa) and the others are all clemsux fans. I have to give him extra support...lol. They are not in your face fans though. They had a rough 5 year run so I think it took the steam out of that....My daughter and her husband and kids are ALL Gamecock though....her time in Williams Brice was well spent...
 
Fatherhood should be a mandatory class for all college students.

A Stitch In Thine Saves Nine(teen years of paying child support)
 
We should all hope those guys graduate and get good jobs because they have years of child support payments ahead of them. (I doubt they plan on marriage.)
 
The belief that family, marriage, fathers, etc. don't matter is one huge reason why we have the problems we have in society today.

That includes Christians also because there are a bunch of people in church who have been divorced.

Just as people complain about when a recruit "changes his commitment", they should be just as upset when they hear about someone getting a divorce.

The destruction of the family unit is part of the reason we have become the society today. The grass is always greener on the other side of the hill, I can be happier, I want to be happy, the sex is better, etc., etc. Fewer and fewer people in this world honor commitment. Whether that be as a father, as a friend or to God. Its all about "ME" and being happy no matter the negative effect it has on society.

Because the family has fallen apart, we have allowed homosexuality and the Bruce Jenner's of the world to even exist. We become more and more socialistic every day.
 
Having children out of wedlock is irresponsible and uncalled for. Some folks need to get right with God AND good citizenship - get married and stay together while the children are still young enough to be your responsibility - otherwise, check with your local pharmacist. They'll be happy to show you how to avoid the problem of 'baby production' for just a few dollars. Simple.
The reason it's "ungodly" is because when the Bible was written, people got married around 12-15, so a child out of wedlock meant you raped a child. However, in today's society, I would think marrying a 15 year old would be a lot more irresponsible than fathering a child at 18. But what do I know, I'm just a person who uses logic and thinks rationally. At least those guys are still on the team and have a chance for a degree to further themselves later in life
 
The reason it's "ungodly" is because when the Bible was written, people got married around 12-15, so a child out of wedlock meant you raped a child. However, in today's society, I would think marrying a 15 year old would be a lot more irresponsible than fathering a child at 18. But what do I know, I'm just a person who uses logic and thinks rationally. At least those guys are still on the team and have a chance for a degree to further themselves later in life

Fathering a child without an income is irresponsible. Care to address that?
 
Having children out of wedlock is irresponsible and uncalled for. Some folks need to get right with God AND good citizenship - get married and stay together while the children are still young enough to be your responsibility - otherwise, check with your local pharmacist. They'll be happy to show you how to avoid the problem of 'baby production' for just a few dollars. Simple.
Amen brother
 
Fathering a child without an income is irresponsible. Care to address that?
I agree it's irresponsible, never said it wasn't. I said it was 'less' irresponsible. I have no idea about the family dynamic, whether the mom works, or grandparents help take care of the kid. But they're not high school dropouts selling drugs on a corner to get by. At least they're going to college so whether it's sports or a degree, they will have a decent income in the near future.
 
Really a ST topic but to what 67 posted, the three steps to avoiding poverty: 1) graduate HS 2) get a full time job and the big one 3) no children until after marriage. Hence my comment that let's hope they graduate and go to work. Two out of three best we can hope for when, ahem, the toothpaste is out of the tube.
 
I do not know how many Clemson or South Carolina players have a children. I do not condone premarital sex, but these young men should be commended if they are taking responsibility for their actions, progressing toward a degree, and excelling on the field. These men--and their children--will be better off if they earn a college degree and can provide for their families. We all make mistakes, and we should not judge them without knowing their stories.

Go Gamecocks!

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That is indicative of a serious problem. Thank you Coach Spurrier and crew for bringing quality people into our program. Let the desperate little brothers bring in all Fat Bradstard type Flash and Trash they want. We all know how that will work out for them.

Young men willing to acknowlege their part in parenthood is not a "serious problem". Standing up to be a father-even when you didn't marry the mother requires courage. I'm surprised there are so many guys in this situation , but I'll bet we have just as many.
 
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when the Bible was written, people got married around 12-15
One of the reasons I doubt this is that the female's pelvis needs to be developed for successful childbirth. Is that just a feeling of your's? 15 might be OK but younger seems problematic. Many rules in the Bible were empirically based.
 
He ain't a 'bad' guy ... hell, he's a GREAT guy!
CPA, multiple business owner, substantial employer, married to a gal that on a 10-scale is a 12 (she's a tar heel).

We were at lunch yesterday and (he) was talking about 'responsibility'. I only know what he said ...

Seems Dabo surrounded himself with 103 football players and asked 'How many of you are fathers'? - Supposedly, TWENTY-SEVEN (27) hands went up! How many of you have two or more kids? - 11 hands. How many of you with kids are married? - 3

My buddy said he just shook his head and left the room.

Then (my friend) - lit into me!!! - saying "don't give me any $hit; your guy Victor Hampton had 3,4, 5 kids didn't he?"

I said "I don't know. I know he got in trouble in a NY nightclub and in some kind of mess with his sister on S. Beltline Blvd. - that's all I know.."

It DID get me to thinking, though. SOS has recruited some really good 'kids' since he's been here. FEW problems, few embarrassments, few troublemakers or prima donnas.

I don't know if it's 'true' - I ain't a Clemson guy. I DO KNOW the HBC has seemingly put as much emphasis on 'character' as he has 'skill' in recruiting, and for that ... I'm appreciative.

My big bit%h at lunch is an inability to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid 40-yard kickoff returns.,

I take it yer not married?
 
One of the reasons I doubt this is that the female's pelvis needs to be developed for successful childbirth. Is that just a feeling of your's? 15 might be OK but younger seems problematic. Many rules in the Bible were empirically based.
No, it's Roman and pre-roman Era history. Also just one more reason why it was so common to die during childbirth
 
I take it yer not married?


????? - You'll need to explain your own perception, I don't have a glib response to your question or understand its implication (if there is one) as I don't know what being married has to do with it. But, FWIW I've been married since 1971.
 
i cant believe you are friends with a clemson fan sports.....this was my honest reaction when i first heard this
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????? - You'll need to explain your own perception, I don't have a glib response to your question or understand its implication (if there is one) as I don't know what being married has to do with it. But, FWIW I've been married since 1971.
yer best friend is not yer wife????
 
One of the reasons I doubt this is that the female's pelvis needs to be developed for successful childbirth. Is that just a feeling of your's? 15 might be OK but younger seems problematic. Many rules in the Bible were empirically based.

In biblical days, women were often married when :they reached womanhood." Meaning, after they had their first period. I don't think it happened as early as nowadays on average (sterioids in the cows & chickens), but it was usually in the 13 to 15 range. Sometimes, they married at a younger age, but did not go to live with their husband until after they "reached womanhood." Teens had sex in the olden days just as now. Pregnancy was a bigger risk then than now. They didn't even learn the rhythm method. One way to avoid "bastardry" was to marry your daughter off as early as possible or have a shotgun marriage if she was already pregnant.

Bastardry was a horrible stigma in olden days, though it happened all the time. You were considered cursed by your parents' sin. King James Bible
A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. Deut 23:2. Although most Christians believe that Christ (and Paul) abrogated most of Deuteronomy, and the Church historically did not ban bastards, that language carried a lot of weight. Most Modern Jewish synagogues may not follow it either, but most still fear its threat.

Go back and look at your family Bibles. There is a very strong possibility that you will find that you great-great etc grandmother in the 1800s married at younger than 15.

And "yes" many young women (who we now consider children) DID die because the pelvis was not fully developed.
 
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