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I don't see how they survive if Texas and OU leave. They will become a minor conference with a small seat at the table. West Virginia will be the next to leave.
 
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I don't see how they survive if Texas and OU leave. They will become a minor conference with a small seat at the table. West Virginia will be the next to leave.
They could bring in some of the old Southwest Conference teams (and rebrand as the Southwest Conference maybe). They'd be on the Conference USA level at least....and there is nothing wrong with that.
 
I don't see how they survive if Texas and OU leave. They will become a minor conference with a small seat at the table. West Virginia will be the next to leave.

Yea, WVU will be in worse shape than Ok State. WVU was already a fish out of water - 1000 miles away from anyone else in the conference. But if the conference collapses, they literally have nowhere else to go. No major conference east of the Mississippi will take them and if the Big 12 stays a conference by adding weaker teams, WVU might as well be independent.
 
This may get crazy before it’s all over, leaving the sec with all the good teams including Ohio state and Clemson.
 
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The B1G and ACC will have to add 2 teams each.
Notre Dame will be fought over for both.
I could see Kansas to either due to basketball.
Maybe the BIG invites ND and Kansas with Ok State as a back-up if ND goes to the ACC.
Maybe the ACC also invites ND and Kansas but who would be their back-up if ND goes B1G?
 
I don't see how they survive if Texas and OU leave. They will become a minor conference with a small seat at the table. West Virginia will be the next to leave.
What i keep seeing on the internet is Iowa State and Kansas to the Big Ten Oklahoma State and some other Texas teams and maybe Kansas State to the Pacific 12. The Big 12 will cease to exist. Phillips 66 likely not happy about this.
 
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This may get crazy before it’s all over, leaving the sec with all the good teams including Ohio state and Clemson.
It'll never get that crazy....unless the SEC can find about $10B in funded research monies that TOSU would give up it's share of if it left the BTAA.
 
The B1G and ACC will have to add 2 teams each.
Notre Dame will be fought over for both.
I could see Kansas to either due to basketball.
Maybe the BIG invites ND and Kansas with Ok State as a back-up if ND goes to the ACC.
Maybe the ACC also invites ND and Kansas but who would be their back-up if ND goes B1G?
Okie State does not qualify for the Big Ten, but Iowa State would.
 
The B1G and ACC will have to add 2 teams each.
Notre Dame will be fought over for both.
I could see Kansas to either due to basketball.
Maybe the BIG invites ND and Kansas with Ok State as a back-up if ND goes to the ACC.
Maybe the ACC also invites ND and Kansas but who would be their back-up if ND goes B1G?
I would like to see Cincinnati and Boise State some how sneak into one of the P4 super conferences. Not so much for cry baby Central Florida.
 
The B1G and ACC will have to add 2 teams each.
Notre Dame will be fought over for both.
I could see Kansas to either due to basketball.
Maybe the BIG invites ND and Kansas with Ok State as a back-up if ND goes to the ACC.
Maybe the ACC also invites ND and Kansas but who would be their back-up if ND goes B1G?

ND will never join the Big Ten as that ship has sailed. They will, however, join the ACC based upon their current agreement IF they are forced to in football. Kansas makes more sense to Big Ten.
 
ND will never join the Big Ten as that ship has sailed. They will, however, join the ACC based upon their current agreement IF they are forced to in football. Kansas makes more sense to Big Ten.
Not so fast. As of 2017, UND became an associate member of the Big Ten.
 
Not so fast. As of 2017, UND became an associate member of the Big Ten.
They have an agreement with ACC until I believe 2035 to join ACC if they forego independence in football. Most of their other sports including basketball are already in ACC conference. They wanted in Big Ten a while ago but Big Ten wasn’t having it.

Their associate membership into Big 10 was for their ice hockey team.
 
The B1G and ACC will have to add 2 teams each.
Notre Dame will be fought over for both.
I could see Kansas to either due to basketball.
Maybe the BIG invites ND and Kansas with Ok State as a back-up if ND goes to the ACC.
Maybe the ACC also invites ND and Kansas but who would be their back-up if ND goes B1G?
According to some reports ND will stay Independent for the next five years. Now what that was based on, I don't know. But, it was stated by two different sports commentators.
 
They have an agreement with ACC until I believe 2035 to join ACC if they forego independence in football. Most of their other sports including basketball are already in ACC conference. They wanted in Big Ten a while ago but Big Ten wasn’t having it.

Their associate membership into Big 10 was for their ice hockey team.
Just the opposite. The B1G has made several overtures to UND. UND is still holding grudges from over 100 years ago.

I have no idea what their agreement with the ACC is, but I would be very surprised if UND locked themselves into an agreement the way you describe it.
 
The ACC grant of rights contract with ND is through 2036. If ND is going to join a conference for football in the next 15 years it is by contract to be with the ACC. There are several articles on this. If the landscape changes and they have to join then it will be the ACC. You can check the internet if you think I’m incorrect on this.

As far as who didn’t want who….it’s been back and forth between the Big Ten and ND since the early 1900’s. Never could they both agree at the same time. That’s why ND ultimately found a better fit with ACC.

Do I think they will give up their independence In football? Only if they have no other choice or If the money is just too good. Don’t need to right now, however, if the playoffs expand to 12 teams and they have a shot at making the top 12.
 
Yea, WVU will be in worse shape than Ok State. WVU was already a fish out of water - 1000 miles away from anyone else in the conference. But if the conference collapses, they literally have nowhere else to go. No major conference east of the Mississippi will take them and if the Big 12 stays a conference by adding weaker teams, WVU might as well be independent.
Didn't they have a chance to join the ACC in the past but chose the Big 12 instead?
 
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