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I know that with us missing out on Kirby Smart and possibly Tom Herman we don't have the ability to hire someone everyone on this message board will be all giddy about. I also acknowledge that Muschamp may be the most qualified out of the realistic options we have at this point with his four years of being a head coach already at UF, his recruiting ability, and his southern ties and connections. However it's frustrating seeing the people on this board making excuse for his past failures, and the people that were either on the fence or against hiring him getting persuaded by biased articles that are really just doing P.R. Work for Ray Tanner and the football program. For all the Muschamp sunshine pumpers here are some things you need to consider.



* At the end of the day Will Muschamp was only 28-21 in his four seasons at Florida.
*In these four seasons he had a winning SEC record exactly ONE time

*In his most successful and only good year, Will Muschamps defense was one of the best in the country, finishing the season 11-2. The defensive coordinator that year? Current Falcons head coach and Super Bowl winning D coordinator Dan Quinn. Who was more responsible for that defense sucsess and record? The head coach whose team greatly regressed the following years, or the guy who went on to win super bowls with the Seahawks and become the head coach for the Falcons. This is clearly up for debate but it is a cause for concern.

* Will Muschamps defense at Auburn which was his ONLY responsibility this past season finished 13th out of 14th. This is where I scratch my head- if you are a good coach and a good defensive mind you find ways to adjust and make your defense better regardless of the "lack of talent" on that side of the ball. The supporters of Muschamp just glaze over this and say "but but it wasn't with his players!". Cmon people were better then that.

*The Jeremy Foley situation- this is the most used excuse I've found on this board. Yes having an interfering Athletic Director hurts any coach, but this is played out. How ANY head football coach could watch Jeff Driskel game after game and not recognize that he is not the answer baffles me, and that alone is enough in my mind to think this guy isn't head coaching material. As a head coach it is your responsibility to do what's best for the team and put them in the best position to succeed and Muschamp doesn't understand how to have successful offenses. All of the offensive coordinators that were hired by Foley had proven track records and didn't just forget how to coach offense when they arrived in gainsville

*The year after Muschamp leaves Florida wins the SEC east. "but but that shows how good of a recruiter Muschamp is!" I can already hear it from you excuse makers. You people do realize this just shows how inept of an on the field coach this guy is correct? So let me get this right... Now we're supposed to think he can be successful here were the recruiting is much more difficult and the talent will be less ? Good lord.

*he is a loose cannon- I watched the Alabama Auburn game and saw him act like a complete moron and animal on the sideline that gave Auburn a costly pentaly. Like Gene Stallings said these week about it- you have to be more professional then that, no matter how upset you may be. So a guy that can't act professional on the sideline is going to become the face of our program now? That alone upsets me.


* What Muschamp to South Carolina really means- it means that Ray Tanner is in over his head, it means that Spurrier Sr had a say in the process, it means RT bows down to anything Spurrier Sr says, it means we're more interested in being a fraternity then winning football games, it means Spurrier Jr and Shawn Elliot will more then likely still be on staff, it says Spurrier Sr is more interested in his sons job security then our sucsess (well duh) it says Spurrier Sr probably wants the guy who follows him to not outshine his SC tenure (spurriers ego anyone?)
It shows that were really still the same program we have been the last two years, just with a different face running the show. That what BEGAN the downfall of our program, is continuing with this hiring, and that we will officially go into football irrelevancy.


*Why should we be the school that takes a chance on this guy? Why shouldn't he have to prove he can ACTUALLY coach ya know football before we hire him. Why take a chance on a known failure as oppose to an unknown with higher upside (Lincoln Riley).

Yay- Go Will Muschamp!!!
 
I want to see them take a chance on a hot OC that's won everywhere he's been. I'll say that again, HE HAS WON EVERYWHERE HE HAS BEEN. so tired of my school going with the safe choice all the damn time. Be creative USC! We could end up landing the next big thing!
 
I know that with us missing out on Kirby Smart and possibly Tom Herman we don't have the ability to hire someone everyone on this message board will be all giddy about. I also acknowledge that Muschamp may be the most qualified out of the realistic options we have at this point with his four years of being a head coach already at UF, his recruiting ability, and his southern ties and connections. However it's frustrating seeing the people on this board making excuse for his past failures, and the people that were either on the fence or against hiring him getting persuaded by biased articles that are really just doing P.R. Work for Ray Tanner and the football program. For all the Muschamp sunshine pumpers here are some things you need to consider.



* At the end of the day Will Muschamp was only 28-21 in his four seasons at Florida.
*In these four seasons he had a winning SEC record exactly ONE time

*In his most successful and only good year, Will Muschamps defense was one of the best in the country, finishing the season 11-2. The defensive coordinator that year? Current Falcons head coach and Super Bowl winning D coordinator Dan Quinn. Who was more responsible for that defense sucsess and record? The head coach whose team greatly regressed the following years, or the guy who went on to win super bowls with the Seahawks and become the head coach for the Falcons. This is clearly up for debate but it is a cause for concern.

* Will Muschamps defense at Auburn which was his ONLY responsibility this past season finished 13th out of 14th. This is where I scratch my head- if you are a good coach and a good defensive mind you find ways to adjust and make your defense better regardless of the "lack of talent" on that side of the ball. The supporters of Muschamp just glaze over this and say "but but it wasn't with his players!". Cmon people were better then that.

*The Jeremy Foley situation- this is the most used excuse I've found on this board. Yes having an interfering Athletic Director hurts any coach, but this is played out. How ANY head football coach could watch Jeff Driskel game after game and not recognize that he is not the answer baffles me, and that alone is enough in my mind to think this guy isn't head coaching material. As a head coach it is your responsibility to do what's best for the team and put them in the best position to succeed and Muschamp doesn't understand how to have successful offenses. All of the offensive coordinators that were hired by Foley had proven track records and didn't just forget how to coach offense when they arrived in gainsville

*The year after Muschamp leaves Florida wins the SEC east. "but but that shows how good of a recruiter Muschamp is!" I can already hear it from you excuse makers. You people do realize this just shows how inept of an on the field coach this guy is correct? So let me get this right... Now we're supposed to think he can be successful here were the recruiting is much more difficult and the talent will be less ? Good lord.

*he is a loose cannon- I watched the Alabama Auburn game and saw him act like a complete moron and animal on the sideline that gave Auburn a costly pentaly. Like Gene Stallings said these week about it- you have to be more professional then that, no matter how upset you may be. So a guy that can't act professional on the sideline is going to become the face of our program now? That alone upsets me.


* What Muschamp to South Carolina really means- it means that Ray Tanner is in over his head, it means that Spurrier Sr had a say in the process, it means RT bows down to anything Spurrier Sr says, it means we're more interested in being a fraternity then winning football games, it means Spurrier Jr and Shawn Elliot will more then likely still be on staff, it says Spurrier Sr is more interested in his sons job security then our sucsess (well duh) it says Spurrier Sr probably wants the guy who follows him to not outshine his SC tenure (spurriers ego anyone?)
It shows that were really still the same program we have been the last two years, just with a different face running the show. That what BEGAN the downfall of our program, is continuing with this hiring, and that we will officially go into football irrelevancy.


*Why should we be the school that takes a chance on this guy? Why shouldn't he have to prove he can ACTUALLY coach ya know football before we hire him. Why take a chance on a known failure as oppose to an unknown with higher upside (Lincoln Riley).

Yay- Go Will Muschamp!!!
Perfect understanding of the situation.. 100% agree
 
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I know that with us missing out on Kirby Smart and possibly Tom Herman we don't have the ability to hire someone everyone on this message board will be all giddy about. I also acknowledge that Muschamp may be the most qualified out of the realistic options we have at this point with his four years of being a head coach already at UF, his recruiting ability, and his southern ties and connections. However it's frustrating seeing the people on this board making excuse for his past failures, and the people that were either on the fence or against hiring him getting persuaded by biased articles that are really just doing P.R. Work for Ray Tanner and the football program. For all the Muschamp sunshine pumpers here are some things you need to consider.



* At the end of the day Will Muschamp was only 28-21 in his four seasons at Florida.
*In these four seasons he had a winning SEC record exactly ONE time

*In his most successful and only good year, Will Muschamps defense was one of the best in the country, finishing the season 11-2. The defensive coordinator that year? Current Falcons head coach and Super Bowl winning D coordinator Dan Quinn. Who was more responsible for that defense sucsess and record? The head coach whose team greatly regressed the following years, or the guy who went on to win super bowls with the Seahawks and become the head coach for the Falcons. This is clearly up for debate but it is a cause for concern.

* Will Muschamps defense at Auburn which was his ONLY responsibility this past season finished 13th out of 14th. This is where I scratch my head- if you are a good coach and a good defensive mind you find ways to adjust and make your defense better regardless of the "lack of talent" on that side of the ball. The supporters of Muschamp just glaze over this and say "but but it wasn't with his players!". Cmon people were better then that.

*The Jeremy Foley situation- this is the most used excuse I've found on this board. Yes having an interfering Athletic Director hurts any coach, but this is played out. How ANY head football coach could watch Jeff Driskel game after game and not recognize that he is not the answer baffles me, and that alone is enough in my mind to think this guy isn't head coaching material. As a head coach it is your responsibility to do what's best for the team and put them in the best position to succeed and Muschamp doesn't understand how to have successful offenses. All of the offensive coordinators that were hired by Foley had proven track records and didn't just forget how to coach offense when they arrived in gainsville

*The year after Muschamp leaves Florida wins the SEC east. "but but that shows how good of a recruiter Muschamp is!" I can already hear it from you excuse makers. You people do realize this just shows how inept of an on the field coach this guy is correct? So let me get this right... Now we're supposed to think he can be successful here were the recruiting is much more difficult and the talent will be less ? Good lord.

*he is a loose cannon- I watched the Alabama Auburn game and saw him act like a complete moron and animal on the sideline that gave Auburn a costly pentaly. Like Gene Stallings said these week about it- you have to be more professional then that, no matter how upset you may be. So a guy that can't act professional on the sideline is going to become the face of our program now? That alone upsets me.


* What Muschamp to South Carolina really means- it means that Ray Tanner is in over his head, it means that Spurrier Sr had a say in the process, it means RT bows down to anything Spurrier Sr says, it means we're more interested in being a fraternity then winning football games, it means Spurrier Jr and Shawn Elliot will more then likely still be on staff, it says Spurrier Sr is more interested in his sons job security then our sucsess (well duh) it says Spurrier Sr probably wants the guy who follows him to not outshine his SC tenure (spurriers ego anyone?)
It shows that were really still the same program we have been the last two years, just with a different face running the show. That what BEGAN the downfall of our program, is continuing with this hiring, and that we will officially go into football irrelevancy.


*Why should we be the school that takes a chance on this guy? Why shouldn't he have to prove he can ACTUALLY coach ya know football before we hire him. Why take a chance on a known failure as oppose to an unknown with higher upside (Lincoln Riley).

Yay- Go Will Muschamp!!!
I know that with us missing out on Kirby Smart and possibly Tom Herman we don't have the ability to hire someone everyone on this message board will be all giddy about. I also acknowledge that Muschamp may be the most qualified out of the realistic options we have at this point with his four years of being a head coach already at UF, his recruiting ability, and his southern ties and connections. However it's frustrating seeing the people on this board making excuse for his past failures, and the people that were either on the fence or against hiring him getting persuaded by biased articles that are really just doing P.R. Work for Ray Tanner and the football program. For all the Muschamp sunshine pumpers here are some things you need to consider.



* At the end of the day Will Muschamp was only 28-21 in his four seasons at Florida.
*In these four seasons he had a winning SEC record exactly ONE time

*In his most successful and only good year, Will Muschamps defense was one of the best in the country, finishing the season 11-2. The defensive coordinator that year? Current Falcons head coach and Super Bowl winning D coordinator Dan Quinn. Who was more responsible for that defense sucsess and record? The head coach whose team greatly regressed the following years, or the guy who went on to win super bowls with the Seahawks and become the head coach for the Falcons. This is clearly up for debate but it is a cause for concern.

* Will Muschamps defense at Auburn which was his ONLY responsibility this past season finished 13th out of 14th. This is where I scratch my head- if you are a good coach and a good defensive mind you find ways to adjust and make your defense better regardless of the "lack of talent" on that side of the ball. The supporters of Muschamp just glaze over this and say "but but it wasn't with his players!". Cmon people were better then that.

*The Jeremy Foley situation- this is the most used excuse I've found on this board. Yes having an interfering Athletic Director hurts any coach, but this is played out. How ANY head football coach could watch Jeff Driskel game after game and not recognize that he is not the answer baffles me, and that alone is enough in my mind to think this guy isn't head coaching material. As a head coach it is your responsibility to do what's best for the team and put them in the best position to succeed and Muschamp doesn't understand how to have successful offenses. All of the offensive coordinators that were hired by Foley had proven track records and didn't just forget how to coach offense when they arrived in gainsville

*The year after Muschamp leaves Florida wins the SEC east. "but but that shows how good of a recruiter Muschamp is!" I can already hear it from you excuse makers. You people do realize this just shows how inept of an on the field coach this guy is correct? So let me get this right... Now we're supposed to think he can be successful here were the recruiting is much more difficult and the talent will be less ? Good lord.

*he is a loose cannon- I watched the Alabama Auburn game and saw him act like a complete moron and animal on the sideline that gave Auburn a costly pentaly. Like Gene Stallings said these week about it- you have to be more professional then that, no matter how upset you may be. So a guy that can't act professional on the sideline is going to become the face of our program now? That alone upsets me.


* What Muschamp to South Carolina really means- it means that Ray Tanner is in over his head, it means that Spurrier Sr had a say in the process, it means RT bows down to anything Spurrier Sr says, it means we're more interested in being a fraternity then winning football games, it means Spurrier Jr and Shawn Elliot will more then likely still be on staff, it says Spurrier Sr is more interested in his sons job security then our sucsess (well duh) it says Spurrier Sr probably wants the guy who follows him to not outshine his SC tenure (spurriers ego anyone?)
It shows that were really still the same program we have been the last two years, just with a different face running the show. That what BEGAN the downfall of our program, is continuing with this hiring, and that we will officially go into football irrelevancy.


*Why should we be the school that takes a chance on this guy? Why shouldn't he have to prove he can ACTUALLY coach ya know football before we hire him. Why take a chance on a known failure as oppose to an unknown with higher upside (Lincoln Riley).

Yay- Go Will Muschamp!!!

Hard to dispute what you've pointed out here. The very LAST thing we want to remain on staff is Spurrier, Jr. If they DO end up hiring Muschamp there needs to be a written & signed stipulation that Jr. will not be on staff (outside of stuffing envelopes).
 
We kept hearing that Kirby wanted to go back home to UGA. Guess who else played at UGA? You guessed it! Wonder why they never wanted him to come back home and be the man?
 
I agree that Muschamp is a lazy and poor choice, given his lack of success at Florida. He has proven without a doubt that he is not the glorious young genius he was made out to be when he was Texas's coach in waiting under Mack Brown.

Is Ray Tanner grasping that far for someone with a "marquee name" albeit from 6 years ago?
 
I know that with us missing out on Kirby Smart and possibly Tom Herman we don't have the ability to hire someone everyone on this message board will be all giddy about. I also acknowledge that Muschamp may be the most qualified out of the realistic options we have at this point with his four years of being a head coach already at UF, his recruiting ability, and his southern ties and connections. However it's frustrating seeing the people on this board making excuse for his past failures, and the people that were either on the fence or against hiring him getting persuaded by biased articles that are really just doing P.R. Work for Ray Tanner and the football program. For all the Muschamp sunshine pumpers here are some things you need to consider.



* At the end of the day Will Muschamp was only 28-21 in his four seasons at Florida.
*In these four seasons he had a winning SEC record exactly ONE time

*In his most successful and only good year, Will Muschamps defense was one of the best in the country, finishing the season 11-2. The defensive coordinator that year? Current Falcons head coach and Super Bowl winning D coordinator Dan Quinn. Who was more responsible for that defense sucsess and record? The head coach whose team greatly regressed the following years, or the guy who went on to win super bowls with the Seahawks and become the head coach for the Falcons. This is clearly up for debate but it is a cause for concern.

* Will Muschamps defense at Auburn which was his ONLY responsibility this past season finished 13th out of 14th. This is where I scratch my head- if you are a good coach and a good defensive mind you find ways to adjust and make your defense better regardless of the "lack of talent" on that side of the ball. The supporters of Muschamp just glaze over this and say "but but it wasn't with his players!". Cmon people were better then that.

*The Jeremy Foley situation- this is the most used excuse I've found on this board. Yes having an interfering Athletic Director hurts any coach, but this is played out. How ANY head football coach could watch Jeff Driskel game after game and not recognize that he is not the answer baffles me, and that alone is enough in my mind to think this guy isn't head coaching material. As a head coach it is your responsibility to do what's best for the team and put them in the best position to succeed and Muschamp doesn't understand how to have successful offenses. All of the offensive coordinators that were hired by Foley had proven track records and didn't just forget how to coach offense when they arrived in gainsville

*The year after Muschamp leaves Florida wins the SEC east. "but but that shows how good of a recruiter Muschamp is!" I can already hear it from you excuse makers. You people do realize this just shows how inept of an on the field coach this guy is correct? So let me get this right... Now we're supposed to think he can be successful here were the recruiting is much more difficult and the talent will be less ? Good lord.

*he is a loose cannon- I watched the Alabama Auburn game and saw him act like a complete moron and animal on the sideline that gave Auburn a costly pentaly. Like Gene Stallings said these week about it- you have to be more professional then that, no matter how upset you may be. So a guy that can't act professional on the sideline is going to become the face of our program now? That alone upsets me.


* What Muschamp to South Carolina really means- it means that Ray Tanner is in over his head, it means that Spurrier Sr had a say in the process, it means RT bows down to anything Spurrier Sr says, it means we're more interested in being a fraternity then winning football games, it means Spurrier Jr and Shawn Elliot will more then likely still be on staff, it says Spurrier Sr is more interested in his sons job security then our sucsess (well duh) it says Spurrier Sr probably wants the guy who follows him to not outshine his SC tenure (spurriers ego anyone?)
It shows that were really still the same program we have been the last two years, just with a different face running the show. That what BEGAN the downfall of our program, is continuing with this hiring, and that we will officially go into football irrelevancy.


*Why should we be the school that takes a chance on this guy? Why shouldn't he have to prove he can ACTUALLY coach ya know football before we hire him. Why take a chance on a known failure as oppose to an unknown with higher upside (Lincoln Riley).

Yay- Go Will Muschamp!!!

Excellent job.
 
As I write this Bruce Feldman is reporting Rich Rod is visiting with SC. I spoke too soon, Will Muschamp isn't the only hire that would be indefensible, this would be the other one.


WHAT ARE WE DOING
 
I think Muschamp is a completely reasonable hire. He's a defensive genius and a great recruiter. We could use those skills.

I do think blaming all of Florida's problems on the offense is a cop out though.
He showed he was a poor CEO. You can roll with those problems and not let it get as bad as it did in 2013 and 2014. You have to lose the team to get that bad with that much talent. You just don't lose to Georgia Southern at Florida. Those are bad reflections on his head coaching ability.

We are taking a big chance on that and we have to hope he has learned from what happened. But, if he can stock the cupboard with talent and turn around the defense, I think taking a risk on the other things is reasonable.
 
Being a head coach is more than just firing up your players. The folks at UF were so happy to be rid of Will it's not funny. He has serious personality issues. I've dealt with him on 3 occasions and it was never pleasant. The folks at Auburn are getting tired of his act too. I think they would be happy for us to take him off their hands. I really doubt Spurrier has much sway on this hire. I think Tanner got strung along by Herman and it killed his chances with Smart and maybe some others. Now that we are where we are, I hope we don't rush and hire Will. No one else is serious about him. Let's see what happens. If UH insists on the huge buyout for Herman, perhaps he comes back into play. Maybe chip Kelly comes into play. Who knows.
 
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Very reasonable post Cock-Cola- but why should we hire someone whose already proven to be a poor CEO when that is the ultimate responsibility of a head football coach
 
The thing that makes him the most indefensible hire is that even IF I thought he could do s good job which of course I don't, he would flame out in four years at most because of his odd ass personslity. That would take its toll on college age kids, let's be real here people
 
*Correction- you mean the people that are in denial about what's going on- the fact that what dragged us down the last two years is about to repeat itself with the Muschamp hire. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Having guys from this last year on this years staff if Muschamp is hired would be INSANE. But hey it was only Albert Einstiens quote, what do I know.
 
Right - he was a great recruiter at Florida who had a winning record in the SEC a whopping one time. He's so bad at coaching that not even the on field talent advantages he had game after game could help him out.
 
So because someone has an opinion different from you, they have their head in the sand? Get over yourself.

No because they are allowing their emotions to cloud their reasoning.

It's understandable though, this whole thing is emotional. We all want our football team to do well and who is in charge of it is a big deal.
But, screaming and complaining that Ray should hire this person or not hire this person is not going to do anything. He can't deal with emotion in his decision and at the end of the day I trust that he will make the most logical decision for the program.
 
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*In his most successful and only good year, Will Muschamps defense was one of the best in the country, finishing the season 11-2. The defensive coordinator that year? Current Falcons head coach and Super Bowl winning D coordinator Dan Quinn. Who was more responsible for that defense sucsess and record? The head coach whose team greatly regressed the following years, or the guy who went on to win super bowls with the Seahawks and become the head coach for the Falcons. This is clearly up for debate but it is a cause for concern.
This is a little deceptive. UF was top 10 in the nation in total defense all 4 seasons he coached there. He's even said he got too involved in the defense and let the offensive guys run the show on their end.
 
My original post was just stating facts.

I think you made some good points in the post, but Ray will make a good decision I think. There are obviously pros and cons to every hire or else they wouldn't be available.
 
I think you made some good points in the post, but Ray will make a good decision I think. There are obviously pros and cons to every hire or else they wouldn't be available.

You mean Ray will make a good decision like he did with the Baseball coach ?
 
Would Muschump even be cheap since he's already getting 1.8 as a DC? If we are going gamble we at least need a cheap HC so we can hire top coordinators.
 
Would Muschump even be cheap since he's already getting 1.8 as a DC? If we are going gamble we at least need a cheap HC so we can hire top coordinators.

Money isn't really an issue for him. Florida owes him over 6 million bucks. He might be willing to work on the cheap.
 
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Yes it was a decision, an absolutely terrible decision. The scary part is Ray knows baseball better than football

It was a plan that had been in place a long time. If it was a decision by AD Ray Tanner, then who else was under consideration?
 
I think Muschamp is a completely reasonable hire. He's a defensive genius and a great recruiter. We could use those skills.

I do think blaming all of Florida's problems on the offense is a cop out though.
He showed he was a poor CEO. You can roll with those problems and not let it get as bad as it did in 2013 and 2014. You have to lose the team to get that bad with that much talent. You just don't lose to Georgia Southern at Florida. Those are bad reflections on his head coaching ability.

We are taking a big chance on that and we have to hope he has learned from what happened. But, if he can stock the cupboard with talent and turn around the defense, I think taking a risk on the other things is reasonable.
He has turned an Aurburn Defense that was bad into a even worst D.
 
There's no question that Muschamp is a good DC. Every program that he has been hired for has shown noticeable improvement in defense by the time he left.

However, he was a poor head coach at Florida, and is possibly insane:

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Is there any guarantee he would keep any of the current staff ? This is why I was hoping Spurrier would have decided not to remain connected to the program. It affects whoever the new coach is and also keeping some of the current staff. We need a CLEAN slate
 
He has turned an Aurburn Defense that was bad into a even worst D.
His year at Auburn is an aberration. He's a good defensive coach. As is Ellis Johnson who also couldn't fix Auburn's defense. For some reason, their defense has been bad for several years under different coaches.
 
Being a head coach is more than just firing up your players. The folks at UF were so happy to be rid of Will it's not funny. He has serious personality issues. I've dealt with him on 3 occasions and it was never pleasant. The folks at Auburn are getting tired of his act too. I think they would be happy for us to take him off their hands. I really doubt Spurrier has much sway on this hire. I think Tanner got strung along by Herman and it killed his chances with Smart and maybe some others. Now that we are where we are, I hope we don't rush and hire Will. No one else is serious about him. Let's see what happens. If UH insists on the huge buyout for Herman, perhaps he comes back into play. Maybe chip Kelly comes into play. Who knows.
you don't know what you are talking about as far as auburn fans. they want to keep muschamp at all costs.
 
His year at Auburn is an aberration. He's a good defensive coach. As is Ellis Johnson who also couldn't fix Auburn's defense.

You can't walk in and magically the defense is better. It is my understanding that the defense improved as the season wore on and was a solid unit the last few games. Ellis is a good DC as well and couldn't do anything with that D.
 
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So you continue to Poit out the muschamp short comings. Did you point out the 23 players kicked off the team? Did you point out all the injuries his final season at florida? Ohh no that doesn't fit the argument to point that out. Also let's hire an OC from a conference that doesn't play one ounce of defense.
 
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