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Bernie, himself, said Biden will be the most Progressive President ever. You know that Joe has mental issues and the left squad will be running the show. Trump will probably outlive us. He doesn't drink or smoke or do drugs. You're letting your dislike or hate blind you from what would happen and it won't be that free for all Utopia you think.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-230-biden-climate-plan-003707959.html

by 2:30?he probably ment 2030 but still.
 
There is plenty of video evidence for both sides.
True.

And none of that can distract from the fact that 153,848 Americans have died from coronavirus, under Trump's watch.. We have 4% of the world's population but, 23% of the world's covid deaths.
 
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I am yet to understand why people want to be governed by socialism. It has not ever worked and leaves a rich power group and the rest in total poverty looking for food and shelter with no economy. If you can't get by the terrible hate and see what the country will become, look to California, New York and Washington. Your city becomes a war zone with destroyed buildings with graffiti all over and tent cities with trash and filth all over. That's a great looking future. You say you're voting for Biden, but he will most likely be gone after 6-9 months.


Well, I reject your premise for one thing. I think it’s silly.

Joe Biden, if he wins, is not a socialist. The 2 women at the top of his VP list are not close to being socialist.

This dumb argument that only the most naive believe reminds me of the campaign and primary/election in 1980 when at first many Republicans were convinced Ronald Reagan would start WW3 with the USSR. When he won the primary, Democrats thought he’d start WW3 based on his talk and the right wingers that seemed to want a war (and there were plenty of them in Congress and the country). A lot of the campaign focused on those fears. People were nervous- and convinced. Of course we didn’t have cable news and talk radio to scare them to death like we do now.

of course that didn’t happen. It was scare tactics. We had a war with the USSR but we didn’t have to use bombs.

the crazy thing about this current debate is we already have a lot of socialist things in place. America has always been a hybrid model and always will be. Not even 3 months ago Trump himself was touting his interest and willingness for the government to take over interest in some private companies (a socialist policy). Almost from the start of his presidency, he’s been paying farmers hundreds of millions of dollars in direct payments as subsidies. That is a socialist policy to manipulate the free market. Of course we’ve always manipulated the free market just like socialism advocates.

The same folks scared to death of socialism never said a word about what Trump said and democrats and republicans alike just go along with massive subsidies year after year. Amazing hypocrisy.
 
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Well, I reject your premise for one thing. I think it’s silly.

Joe Biden, if he wins, is not a socialist. The 2 women at the top of his VP list are not close to be socialist.

This dumb argument that only the most naive believe reminds me of the campaign and primary/election in 1980 when at first many Republicans were convinced Ronald Reagan would start WW3 with the USSR. When he won the primary, Democrats thought he’d start WW3 based on his talk and the right wingers that seemed to want a war (and there were plenty of them in Congress and the country). A lot of the campaign focused on those fears. People were nervous- and convinced. Of course we didn’t have cable news and talk radio to scare them to death like we do now.

of course that didn’t happen. It was scare tactics. We had a war with the USSR but we didn’t have to use bombs.

the crazy thing about this current debate is we already have a lot of socialist things in place. America has always been a hybrid model and always will be. Not even 3 months ago Trump himself was touting his interest and willingness for the government to take over interest in some private companies (a socialist policy). Almost from the start of his presidency, he’s been paying farmers hundreds of millions of dollars in direct payments as subsidies. That is a socialist policy to manipulate the free market. Of course we’ve always manipulated the free market just like socialism advocates.

The same folks scared to death of socialism never said a word about what Trump said and democrats and republicans alike just go along with massive subsidies year after year. Amazing hypocrisy.
So why has he aligned himself with radical leftist Sanders who is praising That Biden will be most progressive President in years? Yet we are the ones who are “dumb, naive, and silly.”
 
So why has he aligned himself with radical leftist Sanders who is praising That Biden will be most progressive President in years? Yet we are the ones who are “dumb, naive, and silly.”


Well again I reject your premise. he is not “aligning” with Bernie Sanders.

he spent a year running specifically against Bernie Sanders. He did that because he doesn’t agree with many of his positions.

He’s doing what politicians have done for hundreds of years in a general election. It’s campaigning 101. He’s consolidating support and avoiding needlessly alienating a former competitor. It’s the same recipe presidents have used for hundreds of years.

reagan and George Bush couldn’t stand each other. They disagreed with each other on most every issue. But reagan asked him to be his VP. The differences between the two were Wide and vast. But you’d never have known that leading up to the general election in 1980. They “aligned” themselves like peanut butter and jelly.
 
So why has he aligned himself with radical leftist Sanders who is praising That Biden will be most progressive President in years? Yet we are the ones who are “dumb, naive, and silly.”
Why is trump aligning himself with conspiracy theorist and way out there characters?
 
He doesn't do interviews nor work with CNN, MSNBC. These are the theorist and way out characters you speak of, correct? SmokinSmile
Unless it Hannity or Fox and friends, I agree he doesn’t do many.he had some crazy doctor the other day claiming something about aliens dna and junk.now that checks both boxes.
 
He doesn't do interviews nor work with CNN, MSNBC. These are the theorist and way out characters you speak of, correct? SmokinSmile

In the previous campaign, Trump went on with Alex Jones calling him a “great man”, a man who was spending most of his time calling the Sandy Hook school shooting fake, and the parents who had lost their children he called liars.
 
Unless it Hannity or Fox and friends, I agree he doesn’t do many.he had some crazy doctor the other day claiming something about aliens dna and junk.now that checks both boxes.
You are going to talking points U. Dead people yes, as with cancer, flu, pneumonia, heart disease, Chicago murders and others. Blame the source, China. You never have a comeback for aborted dead babies. Those millions must be ok. The only conspiracy I hear is from the wacked out MSM, Russia, Ukraine, taking over with troops, tax returns and enough said. Aliens, really?? Although opinion shows Hannity and Ingram are usually right in their probes into criminality.
 
You are going to talking points U. Dead people yes, as with cancer, flu, pneumonia, heart disease, Chicago murders and others. Blame the source, China. You never have a comeback for aborted dead babies. Those millions must be ok. The only conspiracy I hear is from the wacked out MSM, Russia, Ukraine, taking over with troops, tax returns and enough said. Aliens, really?? Although opinion shows Hannity and Ingram are usually right in their probes into criminality.
This crazy doctor:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...k-Texas-despite-states-coroanvirus-surge.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ys-Jesus-destroy-Facebook-removing-video.html
On abortion,for now it’s the law.should you do it,no.is there times it is required,yes.do you have the right to,yes.
 
Trump had nothing to do with those doctors making their statements. A group called the front line doctors who wanted to present what their treatments had done. That doctor is from Africa and has more pointed things to say than the rest.
Lol,now that’s funny.
 
If people here are so well informed, please let us know if you know about Bernell Trammell.
 
If people here are so well informed, please let us know if you know about Bernell Trammell.
I do find it interesting that the focus is on his Trump support while ignoring he was also a supporter of BLM and progressive Democrat Lena Taylor running for Mayor. Those things
don’t paint the picture that many people want it to though so best to ignore those parts.

Until they catch the guy no one is really going to know what the issue/motivation was. They do have a suspect they are trying to find now so hopefully answers will be coming soon.
 
In your world it is. Nothing is going to change your thought process, so leave it at that. Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.
Both sides are entrenched in their "thought process". Both sides feel the other side is misinformed and thus wrong. That's part of democracy.
 
In your world it is. Nothing is going to change your thought process, so leave it at that. Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

I ran out of time on my reply as I only get a 10 minute break.but I find it funny that the most powerful government/man on the planet doesn’t know what their/his speaker is going to say.so you saying they don’t vet their speakers?All the more reason to kick them to the curb.would you have people speak for you if you didn’t know what they stood for or there ideas?As for wishing,I haven’t wished for nothing in a long time.doesn't do any good.
 
Trump had nothing to do with those doctors making their statements. A group called the front line doctors who wanted to present what their treatments had done. That doctor is from Africa and has more pointed things to say than the rest.


Trump promoted the nutty doctor, whose advice is against and directly in opposition to his own administration and officials who he has placed in charge.
 
Honestly, one is a decrepit sexual abuser with ties to foreign money and just enough savvy to cover the implicit evidence. So is the other. Really, is Biden better than Trump? They both suck terribly.


Oh no doubt, but that’s almost always the case.

in this case, Trump is worse to me. There is no doubt in my mind.
 
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Oh no doubt, but that’s almost always the case.

in this case, Trump is worse to me. There is no doubt in my mind.
I dont necessarily agree, but in the end, I'm really just not looking forward to the next 4 years, no matter who wins the election. One promises almost certain civil divide in the country and the other promises potentially devastating reform to an already broken system. I really don't want to see either one president because they both mean a major division in the country. Trump will bring a bigger racial divide, and Biden means a huge class divide.
 
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Honestly, one is a decrepit sexual abuser with ties to foreign money and just enough savvy to cover the implicit evidence. So is the other. Really, is Biden better than Trump? They both suck terribly.

You are terribly lost if you literally see no difference in the two. Trump is a terrible human.
 
I dont necessarily agree, but in the end, I'm really just not looking forward to the next 4 years, no matter who wins the election. One promises almost certain civil divide in the country and the other promises potentially devastating reform to an already broken system. I really don't want to see either one president because they both mean a major division in the country. Trump will bring a bigger racial divide, and Biden means a huge class divide.


I see Biden as a good human being. I don’t see Trump as a decent person.
 
And you think kiddie molester Joe Biden is a good person? Nah. They're both terrible people. Don't be fooled by political affiliation.


Biden has molested children? Is that the unsupported and made up allegation now? Whatever makes you feel better I guess.

why do so many of trump’s congressional supporters say they like Biden as a person?

nah, Biden is a good person. That doesn’t mean people will agree with him. Trump is not a decent person.
 
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I see Biden as a good human being. I don’t see Trump as a decent person.
Your prerogative. Again. I disagree.
Biden has molested children? Is that the unsupported and made up allegation now? Whatever makes you feel better I guess.

why do so many of trump’s congressional supporters say they like him as a person?

nah, Biden is a good person. That doesn’t mean people will agree with him. Trump is not a decent person.
Biden molested a little girl on camera. Its not something made up. But yes, defend the slime ball the same way Trumptards defend him. I'm done here though. Have fun with it.
 
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There were many doctors, not just one. Not "disinformation" as NBC and others claim. Fox will have well-known M.D.`s on talking about the success, in some places(France, others) of HCl, which has safely been used for 60 yrs. Combined with zinc and Z-pack, it has been used with some success. Since Trump promoted it, they ignore anything positive about it. How many lives have been lost because it has been shunned by the MSM and others? And, I`m sorry, this virus has confounded everyone so it`s not Trump`s fault. Fauci at one point estimated 1-2 million could die in the U.S. from it. We have been hit hard, but so have other countries. Do you blame the leaders of other countries? You should be blaming China, who let it escape, instead of Trump.
 
I dont necessarily agree, but in the end, I'm really just not looking forward to the next 4 years, no matter who wins the election. One promises almost certain civil divide in the country and the other promises potentially devastating reform to an already broken system. I really don't want to see either one president because they both mean a major division in the country. Trump will bring a bigger racial divide, and Biden means a huge class divide.
Exactly what racial divide that wasn't already in place by the previous administration which was on display at a funeral? Has no problem with minorities that are not dreamed up. Before virus, lowest unemployment ever, set up enterprise zones for minorities, got the the early release out of jail done for minorities, promised to get big cities back under control from Dem leaders who allow murders of thousands of minorities and has meetings with black pastors to help the division. All this white supremacists is bull. Do you not think BLM agenda on it's standing is racist and Marxist. Propaganda works well for the weak minded and misinformed.
 
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I hope we all understand that just because an outside group or person aligns with or supports a candidate doesn’t mean that the candidate supports any or all of the views of that group or person.
 
Exactly what racial divide that wasn't already in place by the previous administration which was on display at a funeral? Has no problem with minorities that are not dreamed up. Before virus, lowest unemployment ever, set up enterprise zones for minorities, got the the early release out of jail done for minorities, promised to get big cities back under control from Dem leaders who allow murders of thousands of minorities and has meetings with black pastors to help the division. All this white supremacists is bull. Do you not think BLM agenda on it's standing is racist and Marxist. Propaganda works well for the weak minded and misinformed.
I will say I don't think Trump is the cause of the racial divide, but he has done nothing but exacerbate it since it has grown. The racial divide will continue to grow if he's reelected, even if it's others driving it. He will not have a good answer for it because he's out of his depth.
 
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