OT: Delta pushing for National No Fly List
- Thread starter Harvard Gamecock
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People are odd. It's like they can't wait to board the plane, then they can't wait to get off the plane.
Yeah, but you get on it for terrorism ties, not for yelling at your stewardess.
What doesn't make sense is that Delta can ban anyone they want from their own airlines. What interest do they have in banning those folks from taking other airlines?
That was great. So funny. Surprised there wasn't a law suit by that unruly passenger.
Sounds like you’re in favor of pervasive government regulation in business.
Sure they can. Besides, they may have a different view about whether the passenger did anything wrong. If the unruly passenger has a problem with it he or she can move the mask drama to a train or bus.
Lol. And Allegiant. But, definitely Spirit.I think they're already flying Spirit
I fly all the time, typically Delta. I have no problem with such a list….actually two lists. The first “no fly list” that is currently in place for known enemies that want cause mass destruction. The other could be for those passengers that have performed an action that warrants removal from the aircraft and criminal prosecution. The ban could be related to the severity of the incident, should have due process and be appealable. Not, necessary a lifetime ban either. It would depend on the infraction.
And, I think most that get removed aren’t your frequent travelers, but rather many times it is passengers that don’t know the rules or care to follow. The impact for many being on this list would likely be minimal.
And, I think most that get removed aren’t your frequent travelers, but rather many times it is passengers that don’t know the rules or care to follow. The impact for many being on this list would likely be minimal.
no, I’m actually not. And yes, I am in favor of this “asshole no fly list” too. But it cant be arbitrarily administered by these “private” companies who’ve taken many billions of dollars from taxpayers. It’s like the other poster said, they provide a necessary service, therefore they are regulated by the government, therefore this list would need to be handled by the government,
I would be all for this list if it included the people who put their carry on in the bin 22 rows in front of where they are sitting.
This is exactly correct and that reasoning should govern more of our policies in America besides air travel.
I was talking about the people mistakenly put on the list. There has to be due process to ensure random people aren't penalized by mistake. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that this has happened. I thought the poster you responded to was referring to those earlier posts.
I just sit there and let most of them go by. If the line somehow clogs farther back in the plane, I make my move.
The cost savings come from only having to operate a single or very few types of aircraft. They only fly 737's....and you can pay a little extra to board early. They board planes much faster than the idiots who put 1st class on first and then make everyone else walk through them to board. Just cause you haven't tried it doesn't mean "they are putting cost saving above every other factor" - I've got 2 million miles on Delta and and darn near a million on United...Southwest does a darn good job...try 'em sometime.
I was referring to the people I know who fly Southwest, not the airline itself.
I've enjoyed using Delta back and forth from PHX to CHS. They are almost always on time, love the flight tracker screen on longer flights, and they have the Gogo thing. Not all airlines have those amenities.
My biggest tick is the lines that form out in the walkway during boarding. They block/clog the people trying to get to their next flight, etc. Some of this is airport design.
Just a general note, you don't own anyone therefore you aren't entitled to their labor therefore you aren't entitled to their service. When consuming, act like a professional because no one should have to put up with your BS. This goes on a flight, at a restaurant, bank drive thru, the contractors that come by your home, everyone.
That's the truth and it makes no sense. You're literally going to a stationary object.
Which has more comfortable seats and amenities than terminal. Plus no constant CNN.
The cancel culture knows no boundary. If you dare offend anyone, your punishment shall include a full erasure.
If you have a common name like Robert Williams or Steve Johnson, those lists are quite the hassle.
Do it. Zero tolerance. Flying is a privilege, not a right. These people are creating inherently dangerous situations that put lives at risk. And it’s not just the physical altercations that put people at risk - the flight crew’s first job isn’t serving drinks, it’s passenger safety. Undermining their authority puts every passenger at risk by not allowing the crew to do their job unimpeded.
I think it's more of you get banned from a different airline, they don't wanna be the next to find out what's wrong with you.
Why should the airlines be treated differently than any other private business?
Freedom of movement restricts government actions, not those of private businesses.
Of the 4 highlighted comments, 3 of them were regarding or referring to criminal ramifications.
The 2nd was asking the legal aspects of airlines sharing the lists. The key word there is "potentially "FAA creating a list. And these questions were being posed as merely a brainstorming session during a hearing.
So as of now there is not or even a strong indication of a government agency maintaining a list as you were stating there would be.
Claiming there will be one is nothing more than speculation.
That stupid 3rd down call run up the middle for NC State will cost them the game. Conservative playcalling will lose it every time against Clemson.
