OT Reverend Billy Graham passes away today... He was 99 years old
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I was there . He is in his beautiful paradise called Heaven . So glad I saw him in person
I was very sad to hear the news this morning. It is believed he spoke in front of more people live than any other person in history. We'll never know how many decisions were made for Christ as the result of Graham's influence, but it is conservatively estimated in the millions. As a Christian, those are pretty humbling numbers to think about.
The quickest way for me to decide on not seeing a movie is to watch a trailer, and hear at the end "a Woody Allen film." Although I will say, you could tell he respected Billy Graham and wasn't a total jackass in that clip. I think he was intimidated. You're not going to get BG rattled.
I heard an interview with him one time and the subject was about all the tv evangelist getting caught having affairs and with hookers. The interviewer basically asked him if he worried about being accused of something like that. Graham said never. He had a rule that you don't put yourself in that position, you will not falter and no one can accuse you of anything. He was the real deal.
I didn't realize consulting with presidents made him a friend of the world and an enemy of God. Thanks for pointing that out. He tried to convert people over to Christ and you don't do that by simply preaching to the choir. You go where the sinners are most prevalent. Many presidents sought him out for spiritual counseling.
If you're referring to the video you posted, I didn't hear him say Jesus isn't the path to God. He basically said that Jesus has the power to save even those that would deny Jesus in this world. And if God is all powerful and all loving that very well may be true. None of us knows exactly what happens when we shuffle off this mortal coil. You may recall Jesus had more than one parable warning the "elect" not to be surprised at the people that would be saved before it's all said and done. IMHO that wasn't merely a message to the Jews about the gentiles. We should be glad for every souls Jesus might save, and we should be cautious for assuming others don't "deserve" salvation when we've done nothing to deserve it ourselves.
Religion is a lot like politics. The bigger you get and the more money involved, the more corrupt it becomes.
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In today's paper, there is a picture of Graham and Kennedy sitting together at a Catholic event, I think. But, looks like he accepted Kennedy after the election.
A lot of good things happened in that stadium in that year. Maybe more so than any other year.
You mean you didn't see bumper stickers saying "Our Cocks are blessed" back in 1987???
He had this elegant or refined and relaxed way about him. This separated him from the list of famous preachers we have seen (Baker, Osteen, Swaggart). He was the genuine article
Sure would be fantastic if someone could dig up an image of that & post it on here.
Maybe because he didnt spend it and invested wisely. 25 million isnt much when you consider how much his ministry gave away to others in need. No one should have to apologize for success ... unless it comes from sheer greed or underhandedness.
With that said, I'm not sure Franklin is of the same mold as dad.
I think there is a difference between being worth 25million and having 25million. I would bet a large amount of that estimate is realestate and royalties from book sales.
http://time.com/money/5168865/billy-graham-net-worth-quotes-money-greed/
http://time.com/money/5168865/billy-graham-net-worth-quotes-money-greed/
I'm not particularly into organized religion and rate most evangelists the same way I view door-to-door salesmen or TV pitchmen. In short, leave me be. If I want something, I'll go get it. Don't try to sell me what I don't want.
I say that to say this: Of all the famous preachers out there, Billy Graham seemed the most genuine to me. I think he walked the walk. And I can respect that. RIP.
Disclaimer: Though a quasi-Methodist/Southern Baptist by DNA, I do have a streak of agnosticism in me, and sometimes have threatened to become a Unitarian.
And I wish I had the staying power to learn Hinduism. I kind of like that way of looking at things.
I say that to say this: Of all the famous preachers out there, Billy Graham seemed the most genuine to me. I think he walked the walk. And I can respect that. RIP.
Disclaimer: Though a quasi-Methodist/Southern Baptist by DNA, I do have a streak of agnosticism in me, and sometimes have threatened to become a Unitarian.
And I wish I had the staying power to learn Hinduism. I kind of like that way of looking at things.
I guess Billy Graham is the most famous person I've ever interviewed, but it was less memorable for what he said than for what he did for someone he'd never meet.
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Could we carry this thought over to our sports forum in regards to athletes, coaches, etc.?
The difference... Athletes and coaches don't spread the word of God and honor God.... Unless you're Dabo...
I don't know about his father's shoe laces, but if he can bring people to know
I'm not interested about the shoe laces. But, I am interested in is how many people he can bring to JESUS CHRIST. You get it my friend. Remember GOD is love. And he loves you.
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Hey not your friend.....
If anybody goes down that road hoping Franklin Graham can lead them to Christ, they'll only end up at a dead end.
They're better off looking for God on their own
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His said people can be part of the body of Christ without being conscious of it. He also said they are going to heaven. Mr graham didn't quote any bible verses in his explanation. What he is saying is not biblical in my opinion. 1 john 5:7 says he that hath the Son hath life, and he who hath not the son of God hath not life. If you don't understand or agree with what the Bible says you are in great danger. The Bible is very clear you have to believe, be born again, and have a personal relationship with Christ. John 14:6 Jesus says no one cometh to the father except by me. He requires men to pick up their cross and follow him daily! People of other religions clearly do not meet this criteria!
With all due respect then, you are saying people who have never heard of Jesus and/or people of other religions that live according to the good teachings of that religion are going to hell? I find that difficult to digest.
The scripture has been passed down and translated so many times that any literal interpretation is ridiculously inaccurate.
Of course that's my opinion but others that refuse to accept people of other religions or beliefs as good people are as hypocritical as those whom Christians point fingers at for the exact same reason.
I believe the Bible, sir. 2 timothy 3:16 says all scripture is given by the inspiration of God. My answer to your question is yes, and whether you can digest it or not, that's what the bible says. It doesn't make me a hypocrite.
No one is good on their own. All have sinned and have fallen short of God's glory. Because of this we all have a natural death sentence; however, due to Jesus Christ's work at the cross there is redemption through faith in Him.
So theoretically according to you if one goes through life living the best way he or she knows how but yet never has heard of Jesus Christ they are going to hell? I'm not talking about not accepting I'm talking about not even being exposed to.
BG introduce many in the world to the gospel and to christianity. Those good works are counterbalanced by his anti-semitsm, his support of american wars since the korean conflict, and his alliance with j edgar hoover again martin luther king. Let's keep things in perspective.
Part of that is probably from land they own in Black Mountain and bought during the late 40s or early 50s. Price some land in Black Mountain today and you would think you are buying land in downtown Manhattan. The Billy Graham Organization has holding for their work that is performed at the Cove in Black Mountain and in Charlotte. But, if you see the Graham house in BM you would think they are on welfare.
While we all appreciate your trying to imply that he was like many of the others, you need to do your fact checking. There’s a reason he was never accused of anything or there was no scandals in his ministry. He was the genuine article. And by the way he had a very successful book writing career. But we all know how we love to tear down someone who is successful.
You need to check for real facts. Also. When did supporting a war for just reasons make someone a bad person?
I guess I'll ask you the other question people usually ask of folks who read the Bible as a text to be taken literally. How old is the universe/the planet Earth? I know it's not a religion board but since we seem to be delving into that topic, I am curious to hear your answer.
I had a bumper sticker about our game against Southern Cal which said “USC VS USC. No Trojan can hold our Cocks”. Lost it over the years. Probably will turn up after I kick the bucket.
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