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OT- should marijuana be legalized?

Legalize?

  • Yes

    Votes: 148 80.0%
  • No

    Votes: 37 20.0%

  • Total voters
    185
The Federal Government has Marijuana classified as a schedule one drug- along with LSD, Heroin, Ecstasy, and Peyote. That is INSANELY STUPID.

You have to ask WHY? Follow the money to the bullshit trillions of dollars “war on drugs”. How’s that worked out other than making criminals out of small time street dealers and filling our prisons up with non-violent offenders.

I’m 64 and smoked weed for the first time at 16. Somehow I managed to graduate from USC and have a fairly productive career in sales. I stopped smoking weed n my late 20’s, got married and had three kids. I see NOTHING WRONG with recreational use of marijuana. I do see an issue with daily use though. Just as I do with daily alcohol use, tobacco, or over eating. Over indulgence in most anything ain’t good for you.

Should be legal, taxed, and regulated just as alcohol has been for 90 years or so.

My .02 worth
I see no reason to tax it.
 
I see no reason to tax it.
Probably the only way SC would ever legalize it, would be for revenue purposes. At some point, this state, that I love, and am a native there of, will be forced to legalize weed. Look at the lottery as proof. SC wax surrounded by states that implemented a state run lottery. We were losing ‘betting’ revenue to Georgia and Florida. After we began a lottery, NC realized they were losing revenue to SC. Guess what, we sort of forced them to approve and implement a lottery. See how that works. 22 states have legalized recreational use of weed, it’s just a matter of time to occur here imo.
 
Probably the only way SC would ever legalize it, would be for revenue purposes. At some point, this state, that I love, and am a native there of, will be forced to legalize weed. Look at the lottery as proof. SC wax surrounded by states that implemented a state run lottery. We were losing ‘betting’ revenue to Georgia and Florida. After we began a lottery, NC realized they were losing revenue to SC. Guess what, we sort of forced them to approve and implement a lottery. See how that works. 22 states have legalized recreational use of weed, it’s just a matter of time to occur here imo.
I agree that it will be legalized, and I agree that it will be taxed because everything we do is taxed. I just don't think it should be taxed.
 
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Why all you guys so heck bent on making weed legal? As if we need another intoxicate more potent than ever. Figure out DWI then.
 
I know you were being sarcastic. Like most things, you never know how it will affect you until you use it. I have seen try it once, I have see some use only mj, but I have also seen it destroy due to finances or moving on to harder stuff.
Saying marijuana use leads to the use of “harder” stuff is like saying having “sex” leads to rape, pedophilia, etc………. One has nothing to do with the other.
 
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Saying marijuana use leads to the use of “harder” stuff is like saying having “sex” leads to rape, pedophilia, etc………. One has nothing to do with the other.
Easy to say until you’ve seen it happen. Better yet, heard some say it happened. Again doesn’t affect everyone the same, but it does make the drive for harder stuff appear.
 
Easy to say until you’ve seen it happen. Better yet, heard some say it happened. Again doesn’t affect everyone the same, but it does make the drive for harder stuff appear.
No it doesn’t. Heroin, cocaine, opioids etc has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with marijuana but let me try to understand your stance. Are you saying that if marijuana didn’t exist the drug abuse problem would end?
 
Probably the only way SC would ever legalize it, would be for revenue purposes. At some point, this state, that I love, and am a native there of, will be forced to legalize weed. Look at the lottery as proof. SC wax surrounded by states that implemented a state run lottery. We were losing ‘betting’ revenue to Georgia and Florida. After we began a lottery, NC realized they were losing revenue to SC. Guess what, we sort of forced them to approve and implement a lottery. See how that works. 22 states have legalized recreational use of weed, it’s just a matter of time to occur here imo.
Correct, so we should go ahead and get while the getting is good. We could be one of the only states in the east coast. Would crest piles of revenue.
 
Who would have known the board is full of “heads”?
Maybe that would xplain a lot of the posts on here🤣
You would be absolutely shocked at the amount of people under 40 that partake. Some you wouldn’t think In a million years do in the privacy of their own homes. I don’t care if it’s legal or not. It won’t change what I do now. It will just allow me to get better stuff and know what I’m getting. You can already get anything sold in another states dispensary right here in SC.
 
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No it doesn’t. Heroin, cocaine, opioids etc has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with marijuana but let me try to understand your stance. Are you saying that if marijuana didn’t exist the drug abuse problem would end?
In the words of the birth mother of my opioid-dependent adopted son…..she started weed while in high school. She became addicted to the high, but eventually it wasn’t high enough. So, she started experiencing with other drugs to try to push the high further. She tried numerous drugs before settling on the way pills (opiates) made her feel. So, when our adopted son was born he was dependent upon opioids. Spent several weeks in the NICU while his drug ravaged system had to deal withdrawals, the worst of which would be screaming 17 to 18 hours a day without being able to be soothed. The mj itself may not be an issue (may be, science is still unsure), but it certainly can be. I do believe a person’s physiological makeup has something to do with how an individual handles it.

So, forgive me if you and I will never see eye to eye.
 
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Back in my day we celebrated or mourned with gin or vodka (think of a Baptist wake:), …….come to think of it we’re still doing the same……ancient Chinese quote often yelled in Preston dorm….”fire that big boy up!”
Had my fair share of both sir. I find the right mix of both calms the nerves best.
 
Why all you guys so heck bent on making weed legal? As if we need another intoxicate more potent than ever. Figure out DWI then.
1) Tax revenue. With my fixed income, it would be nice for Club Fed to start generating money (tax) instead of wasting it (our hard-earned taxed monies) on our continual "War on Drugs" specific to marijuana. To classify Marijuana as equal to other hard drugs is still living in the 20's. Do people really believe this latest Government effort to rebuild America will not result in new tax burdens for the middle class in the years to come? Club Fed only talks about taxing the rich at election time. Any other time, they are taking in huge donations from the rich to keep the status quo (IMO).
2) Proven medical uses. Seizures for instance in children with no legal access to this drug in certain states.
3) Put a huge dent in the cartel's coffers. In the same manner, the 18th Amendment grew Organized Crime income until it was abolished. Why buy fake weed from an unknown source when you can get the real stuff legally from your local store.
4) Take the burden off local, state, and federal agencies charged with upholding outdated laws.

The bottom line, just because I can legally buy beer, high-end alcohol, and weed (in certain states) does not require that I am now compelled to buy any of it. Like any choice, one must use such things in a manner that does not put the lives of others in danger. I could get bloody drunk and stay at home...I don't have to drink and drive. But people do that every night of the week in this country and others often pay a terrible toll for those choices. Cheers and Happy Holiday...Sincerely submitted as there is too much hate on these boards with people attacking one another over a simple difference of opinion.
 
In the words of the birth mother of my opioid-dependent adopted son…..she started weed while in high school. She became addicted to the high, but eventually it wasn’t high enough. So, she started experiencing with other drugs to try to push the high further. She tried numerous drugs before settling on the way pills (opiates) made her feel. So, when our adopted son was born he was dependent upon opioids. Spent several weeks in the NICU while his drug ravaged system had to deal withdrawals, the worst of which would be screaming 17 to 18 hours a day without being able to be soothed. The mj itself may not be an issue (may be, science is still unsure), but it certainly can be. I do believe a person’s physiological makeup has something to do with how an individual handles it.

So, forgive me if you and I will never see eye to eye.
Your forgiven. People who chose not to deal with life will always use drugs, alcohol, huff glue, gas, drink rubbing alcohol etc…………. Legal weed or illegal it’s been around for thousands of years and is best case beneficial to many, worse case harmless and non lethal. Opioids, meth, fentanyl, that’s a different animal and users are definitely not worried about tomorrow. Not a lot you can do to solve that problem
 
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Raise your hand if you know someone that became addicted to opioids as a result of routine surgery, being in the hospital, or doctor prescriptions without ever touching marijuana.

That being said. Marijuana has been proven to help wean people off of opioids. There's so much misinformation in the world from people who have no idea what they are talking about or selectively accept knowledge based on their own preconceived notions/bias.
 
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Without question.
There are all sorts of questions about the long term effects of marajuana use both physical and mental...just search and read for yourself.

I'm curious, what overwhelming benefits does marajuana provide that inspire your complete confidence in the wisdom of its legalization and impending much more widespread use?
 
I am sure that is true for most cops! It does not inebriate someone to where they are incapable of operating a vehicle safely nearly to the degree of alcohol either! Not saying it makes you a “better” driver… but I have been drunk to the point I could barely WALK let alone drive… you could smoke a trash bag full of dope and not get that wasted.

It is technically almost impossible to overdose on weed also. You can take like 0.1 mg too much of fentanyl and die, but that is “legal”?!? WTF?

To set the bar at 'it doesn't 'completely' eliminate one's ability to operate a motor vehicle (a ton or so missile traveling just feet from your son or daughter or other loved one on public highways at anywhere from 35 to 70 or more miles per hour).
A. Legalize something that doesn't improve and can't improve road safety and might possibly decrease it (someone whose judgment is in any way is hampered has got to be more of a safety risk than someone whose judgment wasn't impaired at all.....for example the dude who burned one might accept that offer of a drink afterwards so now he's high and drunk)
B. Keep this substance illegal and work to make the penalties for ANY impaired driving so steep that no one would consider risking it.
I vote B
 
My buddy who's a cop has said he would rather deal with 10 potheads than one drunk. He has yet to be called on a domestic call where a couple was smoking pot then got in a fight. It's always couple who were drinking then started fighting each other.
I can guarantee you that many many more Officers would rather they not have either. This is like saying I'd rather eat one rotten egg than two
 
To set the bar at 'it doesn't 'completely' eliminate one's ability to operate a motor vehicle (a ton or so missile traveling just feet from your son or daughter or other loved one on public highways at anywhere from 35 to 70 or more miles per hour).
A. Legalize something that doesn't improve and can't improve road safety and might possibly decrease it (someone whose judgment is in any way is hampered has got to be more of a safety risk than someone whose judgment wasn't impaired at all.....for example the dude who burned one might accept that offer of a drink afterwards so now he's high and drunk)
B. Keep this substance illegal and work to make the penalties for ANY impaired driving so steep that no one would consider risking it.
I vote B
Making a substance illegal does not mean people do not use it and with drugs it increases rates if abuse and addiction to the substance because of the stigma tied to it. Nobody is saying you should legalize driving impaired. Alcohol is legal but driving drunk is not. You are not staying on topic here- Nobody has said driving impaired is a good thing.
 
I can guarantee you that many many more Officers would rather they not have either. This is like saying I'd rather eat one rotten egg than two
Actualmy his example was more like saying “I’d rather eat 0 rotten eggs than eat rotten eggs every night… “
 
Since this thread is still going- though rare (because drug users/dealers do not tend to give away drugs on purpose), accidental overdoses do occur.

Hmmm… If only there was some way that people could know the substances they are consuming were approved by the FDA or had been through some sort of quality control process like every drug/alcohol product we buy from the stores today?? 🤔🤔 Might actually help reduce some of the epidemic level deaths we see from drug overdoses in America today. Like 100,000 people died last tear from overdose of illicit drugs- most from fentanyl and opioids, which were LEGALLY produced and illegally procured. Those are the drugs that need to have more controls implemented on them… We can legalize pot and use a FRACTION of the revenu from taxation of it (a trade that is and will happen regardless of legality, the gov just cannot tax it if it is illegal)- to create treatment and education resources to help curb these drug overdoses. Nobody dies from a weed overdose… It is almost impossible and it can provide the medicinal benefits that opioids offer perhaps more effectively in many cases. How does the current state of drug laws in America make sense to anyone?
 
There are all sorts of questions about the long term effects of marajuana use both physical and mental...just search and read for yourself.

I'm curious, what overwhelming benefits does marajuana provide that inspire your complete confidence in the wisdom of its legalization and impending much more widespread use?
The effects are irrelevant if you ask me. No one should be able to tell me how I can and cannot treat my body. That is for me to decide. It should also be my choice if I want to use it or not.
 
To set the bar at 'it doesn't 'completely' eliminate one's ability to operate a motor vehicle (a ton or so missile traveling just feet from your son or daughter or other loved one on public highways at anywhere from 35 to 70 or more miles per hour).
A. Legalize something that doesn't improve and can't improve road safety and might possibly decrease it (someone whose judgment is in any way is hampered has got to be more of a safety risk than someone whose judgment wasn't impaired at all.....for example the dude who burned one might accept that offer of a drink afterwards so now he's high and drunk)
B. Keep this substance illegal and work to make the penalties for ANY impaired driving so steep that no one would consider risking it.
I vote B
Would you be in favor of making prescription opioids and alcohol illegal as well?
 
The legalization of marijuana is a highly debated issue, and opinions on it vary greatly depending on cultural, political, and social factors. Advocates for legalization argue that it could generate revenue for governments through taxation, reduce crime associated with drug trafficking, and alleviate the burden on the criminal justice system. Additionally, some supporters believe that marijuana has medical benefits and that legalizing it could make it more accessible to those who need it. Particularly, CBD oil is best for pain. I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana.
 
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The effects are irrelevant if you ask me. No one should be able to tell me how I can and cannot treat my body. That is for me to decide. It should also be my choice if I want to use it or not.
So you’re saying you want to be or already are a crack head.
 
So crack should be legal?

Should any mind-altering substance be legal? I think so. I love a good scotch. I don’t mind some Delta-8 to help me sleep. And I’ve dabbled in several other things in the past that lead to some really fun times. But how do we decide that my mind-altering substance is good, and yours is bad and could lead to jail time?
 
The deleterious effects of a "personal choice" upon others is not to be dismissed. If we all lived in a vacuum, this discussion wouldn't even arise. There was a man who lived near me who happened to be an illegal alien and a drinker. I paid neither his status nor his predilection any attention until he lost control of his vehicle and killed a man minding his own business working in his own yard just up the road from me.
 
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