Patrick was just amazing!
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It was close. But not a great game IMO. Neither team played great defense (or offense for that matter. It came down to who scored last (but again, not in a fun way).
Better than a blowout though!
Though it seemed neither had a plan to win.
Better than a blowout though!
Though it seemed neither had a plan to win.
Don't tell that to "real" baseball fans. They would let you know that the refs bungling calls and affecting the outcome of games is part of the charm of the sport and that the game would be "less than" without it.
Every ref in every sport makes mistakes and they know it. They all hope their mistakes dont alter the outcome of the game. Sometimes it does. No one said they were flawless.
The e-zone is not perfect. And coincidently, instant replay, slow motion and the likes didnt seem to help last night either. If anything, it proved there is no perfect system.
Of course nothing is perfect. I just don't get accepting imperfection (even celebrating it for some baseball fans), when there are easy, viable ways to get closer to perfection (which in my eyes is the players deciding games, not refs or umps).
Take last night - you should be able to reverse calls like that in the last two minutes of the Super Bowl. Just make it a one game rule.
But the Eagles player did hold.
I agree about last night. The call should have been reversed. Baseball's zone issue has a much easier fix than what we saw last night imo... without changing any rule. All the batter needs to do is protect the plate. Problem solved. I have a really hard time thinking they are a victim of a bad call on a borderline pitch.
Yeah. Pretty timid hold tho. Worthy of a game altering flag? I gotta think most refs would say no in that situation and let them play. But they didnt.
Here's a direct quote from the corner who was called for holding:
"It was a holding. I tugged his jersey. I was hoping they would let it slide," he said after Super Bowl LVII.
I saw that. As I previously said, it was holding. Didnt think it was to the level to throw a flag but they did. We'll never know if it would have been reversed.
His quote definately took heat off the league. I'm positive the uproar would have been quite high today. His quote made a controversial call a whole lot less controversial for sure. The league should be thanking him. Lol
Disagree. Bradberry held twice. Maybe you let the first one go. However, you can't allow a mugging just because it's a big play in the Super Bowl. I say that being a Panther fan that likes Bradberry. He even admitted that it was holding in the postgame. Sort of like the Personal Foul call at the end of the AFC Championship. A Ticky-Tack way to get to the Super Bowl, but it was the right call to make.
All of that makes sense except the mugging part. A quick grab and some touching... yeah. The field conditions should have allowed for a little bit of that stuff imo anyway. It probably did until it didnt. I cant imagine there be much less holding on that play tho.
That said the Chiefs had better shoes. That may have been one of the biggest differences in the game.
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Yea the replays kept showing the second incident, the jersey hold came as he was releasing. The defender even admitted that he held him, so case closed. Is the ref not supposed to call it because it is the super bowl?
Yep, went a little far with the term mugging, but it should make the point. At some point, you have to make the call.
It was a good Super Bowl but I could rattle off about 8-10 in my lifetime that were just as good if not better. No disrespect but I’m old and there have been some really good Super Bowls that came down to the final second. That one was basically over with 2:00 to go when the ref threw the flag.
The CB had gotten away with the first hold on that play, what got the flag was the second time he did it
I'd like to see the panned out view to see when the ref started throwing the flag. If he threw it right at the beginning when the receiver made his break to the outside, there was a slight hold there. Not something that is usually called (as that happens on literally every play and didn't affect his route), but by the letter of the law, it was a hold.
But if it was thrown when the receiver made his turn, even with the defender's hand on his back, that wasn't a hold and shouldn't have been called.
Just from my years of watching football and officiating, I think the call was made on the turn. It was one of those plays where it looked like that hand moved the receiver off his route even though it didn't.
You can say that but... That was the most ticky-tack call ever. I didn't care who won that game but that call was atrocious. You can call him if it was obvious. If you call that play you have to throw a flag on EVERY play because that happens on every down.
Idk how many flags were thrown but the one I saw came from the back of the endzone after the players crossed the goal line... rather late. My first thought was from where the flag came from (the corner of the back of the EZ), it was the worse possible angle a holding could be seen. But as I said, maybe there were other flags flying from better angles.
They would have had a longer attempt, but the Eagles would have had 1:54 to tie the game with a field goal - something that is well within the reach for most NFL playoff teams.
I see letting go the first tug go when Smith-Schuster did the little zig move outside. However, Bradberry held Smith-Schuster again when he tried to cut upfield. I think you have to make the call there. Otherwise, you can just keep tugging when you feel beat.
