Rethinking conference alignments

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  1. GandBinNC

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    For shits and giggles... What conference alignment of 14 schools would you choose for South Carolina if you had the pick of both SEC and ACC institutions?

    For me:

    Division A:
    South Carolina, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech

    Division B:
    Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State

    Tough choices. No room for Wake, GA Tech and Vandy, but I could see them forming a conference of their own - sort of a Southern Ivy League, along with Rice, Baylor, Tulane and some others.

    And giving up LSU and Florida was not easy, but one or two of the big boys had to go. I could see LSU and Arkansas merging with some of the Big 12 schools. Same for Mizzou and Texas A&M, and they don't really belong culturally anyway. Ditto for Syracuse, Pitt, etc, who I could see helping to reform the Big East.

    Florida, Florida State and Miami... not sure where to put them.

    I'd be interested to see your choices...
     
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    I’m going to be in the minority and say group A. Geographically it would be easier to make it to almost every game with a short car drive. It would also be better for basketball.
     
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    I could live with what you have, except I'd drop UVA and MSU. I hate unwieldy, 14 team conferences.
     
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    Drop Nancy State, replace with Georgia. Drop the Virginia’s for UF and FSU, finally add LSU back to group B.
     
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    Insightful. Thank you.
     
  7. Carolina4

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    I say screw 14, go back to 12, no permanent opponents from divisions.
     
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    Mike Slive missed his chance in 2009. He could have kneecapped the ACC (and Clemson). He could have "made it so" and had a 16 team SEC by adding Texas A&M, North Carolina State (maybe could have gotten UNC instead?), UVA, and Virginia Tech. A sweeping behemoth from Texas to the nation's capital.
     
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    I certainly don't like the permanent opponents from other divisions.
     
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    What! No jawja/allbarn?
     
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    Nope. Screw’em. They’ll play every few years. Not concerned in the least for them. I’d rather play other teams from the west more often.
     
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    From a road trip standpoint, creole and memphis yes ... nash & lex can’t be traded......don’t wanna give up that culture.
     
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    They are in the East. We’d play Vandy and Kentucky every year.
     
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    I'd like teams to be able to designate a rivalry as traditional, and the rest of the season be entirely round robin. Determine your two championship game participants on a points system and ditch divisional play altogether.
     
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    Only in some cases. UGA - Auburn, Bama - Tennessee are long time rivalries so giving them a pass is alright in IMHO.
    I'm sure there are cases like this in other conferences as well.
    Manufacturing a rivalry just to fill in a slot on the schedule just leaves one dissatisfied.
     
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    Exactly. Our "rivalry" games, or permanent cross-division opponents since joining the SEC have left much to be desired. First Arkansas and Mississippi State (back when there were two cross-division permanents), then just Arkansas, and since expansion, Texas A&M. We have very little in common with any of them, and the road trips are difficult due to distance.

    In the alignment I proposed in the original post, I could see our permanent cross-division rival being UGA, UT, or even UK.

    That alignment will never happen, of course, but its interesting to think about. Selfishly, living in NC it would be awesome for me.
     
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    Not a bad mix!

    IMO this is how you “fix” CFB. It is clear to me this is the only equitable way to do it-
    Power 5 should be power 4. 4 conferences with 14 teams each, 7 per division. Playoff games stay at 4, but in this case the conf championships are truly the first round of the playoffs- as they were supposed to be bu the NCAA is too feckless to make it so. Thus we now have an 8 team playoff without adding any extra games. It really is that easy.

    I also like the idea of eliminating FCS regular season games and making the “Spring game” a scrimmage vs an FCS TEAM.

    “What about the teams that are D1 and don’t get into a power conference”? In short... Eff em.
    Obviously you could make the power conferences 16,18,20... Teams each if need be, but their should be some qualifier to get into a major conference- some combination of revenue, history, TV Ratings... There is a way to do it without just subjectively picking teams.
     
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    Florida - Auburn used to be a big game too. They don’t play every year any longer. 1st year would be odd, but after a few it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. It’s really not all that fair to UT that they have Alabama as their permanent, when Missouri gets Arkansas.

    While there are a couple of games that it’s worth having, I think 10-12 teams in the conference benefit more from eliminating them.

    heck, if UGA and Auburn want to play every year, let them schedule it as an OCC game when it’s not on the conference schedule. They are scheduling other teams like Clemson, Oregon, etc... See how bad they really want it. Nobody would stop them from doing that.
     
  19. uscgrad1991

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    I say we just pull a Texas A&M. Stop playing Clemson. We really don’t need them on our schedule. The SEC is hard enough.
     
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    What?!?!?
     

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