I'm BSEE 1972. My son works at GE in Greenville, SC, and hires engineering grads. He thinks very highly of the grads from Clemson but, other than me, has not met very many grads from USC. Clemson engineering has been rated relatively highly (may be somewhat due to their administration manipulating the numbers used by U.S. News and World Report). I have seen that the reputation of USC engineering graduates has been improving. What have you heard about the reputation of the USC engineering program? Sounds like you are currently a student. How's it going?
Since this is your opinion, I respectfully disagree. I also disagree with most of the original OP. The fan bases are almost identical in every way, and there is no fitting in or not fitting in as far as coaches go. Either you win or you dont, that determines "fitting in".
Unfortunately, with the playoff that we have now, an easier schedule means an easier road to a national championship. Strength of schedule doesn't mean much anymore.
What? Are you serious? We go after guys that have multiple offers from SEC schools (since you are trying to draw a comparison.) So all these SEC schools are guilty of the same thing?
I think he was talking about CU's propensity to sign a lot of skill players and not a lot of OL on offense. That seems to have changed this year.
Yeah, I am in the engineering department, though not for much longer (I graduate in May). Our reputation right now is solid, not necessarily bad, but not really great either. I can't speak too much to other disciplines, but I can tell you that the MEs have some really, really great faculty. Wally (technically, Dr. Peters) and Dr. Rocheleau are some of the best around, and our department head, Dr. Khan, is absolutely amazing. A great leader, an excellent teacher, and just the nicest guy you could ever meet. I believe Dr. Knight, who directs the nuclear engineering minors/grads, just got a major research grant from the government, too.
Thanks Beckham, that's exactly what I was trying to say, It wasn't a negative. My daughter is a CU grad, I was just relaying my opinion that CU seems to get more of the flashy, look at me type of recruit. There is no denying that some of those guys are great athletes. I think that one thing that five in a row did was really point out that you can only do so much without the big guys in the trenches.
I think CU has more fans with no connection to the School. Heck 80% of the orange clad in the stands on Saturday don't know that the school is open the rest of the week. If you base your opinion of the fans on the Einsteins on tigernet, they ARE the most delusional in the country. They never had a decommit, they pulled the offer. Watch how we handle Kelley when he spouts off to Dabo, never mind the four other times he got in trouble that were swept under a VERY lumpy rug. That sort of thing.
This.
This is a bit inaccurate. The law school does not get that much support from the school. The law school has been in its current building since 1973 (14 years before Swearingen was built). As a law grad, I can assure you that Swearingen is a palace compared to the current law center, which is easily one of the worst law school buildings in the country. The funds to build the new law school mainly came from donors.
The law school is a dump, but they're building a new one with private funds.
That does make me feel a little bit better, I guess. With the new building wave that's going on its easy to feel left out, especially since we're so far away from the rest of campus. Forgive me if I think my major and department are more important than everyone else's. We're actually fighting everyone else for a piece of the old law school right now to use for senior design projects, by the way.
Engineering is an important major. Many other majors are important too. Get off your high horse.
Nice try. The simple truth is during reconstruction, USC admitted black students and Tillman & Co wanted no part in it so they formed Clemson. Not rocket science.
No malice was intended. "Everyone favors the department they're in" was more the meaning. Again, no malice intended. And anyways, I hold math and physics majors in higher esteem. Those guys are freaking geniuses.
Fair enough. I would like to point out that Clemson offered as many if not more OL and DL over the past 10 years than south Carolina. We missed on a bunch and more importantly had several over a span of about 5 years get hit with uncanny injuries. The results on the field were obvious.
that just might be the single stupidest bit of "analysis" I've ever read on this forum, and that is saying something. Disregarding all of your purely anecdotal "evidence" regarding who you personally know that graduated from USC (which I believe is completely fabricated because you are far too big of an asshole to have any friends, Carolina or otherwise), USC graduates way more liberal arts majors than Clemson by design, which are generally lower paying in the job market. Not making any judgments about the wisdom of such a choice by so many students, but that is just the way USC was designed.
Did you include advanced degrees in your "analysis"? Don't forget to include the Medical Schools and Law Schools.
When I graduated HS in '77, half of those that went to college went to Clemson. The other half scattered. I can count on my hands how many how many from my class went to USC. Today when I inquire, it seems just the opposite. With USC graduating so many more than Clemson every year, one would have to think our donor base would continue grow much larger than theirs. There's a place for what they do at Clemson, but I hope I live to see the day when all of the best and brightest kids want to attend USC. I knew a few Engineering majors at USC, and they were all beyond smart. The USC Engineering school only lacks one thing...marketing and publicity.
