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I vote for things to go back to the wild wild west! That's where democracy is going and the far left won't like the outcome. Keep poking the bear in the cave he'll eventually come out to play. Silent majority will speak. Right is right wrong is wrong, so many get their feelings hurt if someone speaks and they don't agree so they throw a temper tantrum. Most of those so called justice warriors would drop in a fetal position if confronted one on one.
 
Joe Biden in 1987: ‘We (Delawareans) Were on the South’s Side in the Civil

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/joe-biden-delaware-civil-war-860886/
Let's say, hypothetically, Biden's former white house chief strategist is arrested for fraud related crimes, accused of scamming Americans using a political idea created by Biden, AND he's taken into custody on a Chinese citizens multi million dollar super yacht....... what would your conspiracy theory consist of?
 
Let's say, hypothetically, Biden's former white house chief strategist is arrested for fraud related crimes, accused of scamming Americans using a political idea created by Biden, AND he's taken into custody on a Chinese citizens multi million dollar super yacht....... what would your conspiracy theory consist of?

Nothing but allegations. But that "Chinese citizen" is Guo Wengui , and exiled dissident that is hated by the Chinese government.

It's Biden and his son that are in bed with the Chinese. Biden flew his son on AF2 over to sign a $1.5 billion deal with the Chinese government.

This is what Biden said about China just a year ago.

“China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man,” the former vice president said.

“I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what? They’re not competition for us,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...nplaying-china-threat-u-s-fires-pols-n1001236

Amazing how you Dems just allow Biden a pass on everything. He is everything you claim Trump is, but twice as bad. Constantly lies. Numerous complaints from women. Numerous racist comments. Blatantly enriching his family and bragging about it. Even the hair plugs and fake teeth. You even have a video of him groping a child on the floor of the Senate, and you still somehow think he is a "good man". Comments about him enjoying children rubbing his legs and bouncing on this lap.

What a joke. Biden is a douchebag that make Trump look like a choir boy.

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Nothing but allegations. But that "Chinese citizen" is Guo Wengui , and exiled dissident that is hated by the Chinese government.

It's Biden and his son that are in bed with the Chinese. Biden flew his son on AF2 over to sign a $1.5 billion deal with the Chinese government.

This is what Biden said about China just a year ago.

“China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man,” the former vice president said.

“I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what? They’re not competition for us,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...nplaying-china-threat-u-s-fires-pols-n1001236

Amazing how you Dems just allow Biden a pass on everything. He is everything you claim Trump is, but twice as bad. Constantly lies. Numerous complaints from women. Numerous racist comments. Blatantly enriching his family and bragging about it. Even the hair plugs and fake teeth. You even have a video of him groping a child on the floor of the Senate, and you still somehow think he is a "good man". Comments about him enjoying children rubbing his legs and bouncing on this lap.

What a joke. Biden is a douchebag that make Trump look like a choir boy.

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Creepy old man
 
I've said it before....it never should've been called that in the first place because he has no real affiliation to USC and, worst of all, he's a tater! I still say name it after someone most USC supporters like and respect: John Palms.
 
So your argument is that a staunch segregationist wasn't racist? Seems reasonable Eyeroll

So what does that make Joe Biden, who fought for many of the same segregationist policies in the 70s.

From NBC, back in 2019, when they were trying to prevent him from being the Dem nominee. Of course, the rest of the field sucked, and Biden became their best shot to win, so now he is suddenly a champion for black America.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk...mise-segregationists-he-fought-their-n1021626
 
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Strom Thurmond was a racist. There is no place where a racists name should be memorialized.
Did you know that Joe Biden was a very good friend of his? Did you know that Joe Biden gave the eulogy at Strom's funeral in Columbia? He forgave Strom for what he did earlier. Did you know that 18 US presidents were slave owners and the ones with the most were George Washington and Thomas Jefferson? I guess we should remove George Washington's likeness from the $1 bill and the millions of other things named after him including many African-Americans. Even Ulysses S. Grant and his wife owned 5 slaves. We simply cannot remove everything that offends people because of some of the things they did. If that's the case, we should also remove Martin Luther King, Jr.'s national holiday, monuments, names of many places because he was a notorious philanderer. He was even recorded by the FBI in a hotel room with 11 people in an orgy. He once watched a woman get raped and urged the rapist to continue and even gave him instructions. His top lieutenant was a communist. He wanted the US to turn socialist. Many other things will come to light about what he did once 2027 arrives. The courts sealed all of his records for 50 years in 1977 due to the nature of the recordings. Some were allowed to view them as a result of investigations into Kennedy's assassination. People aren't clamoring to remove that. Atheists are offended by Christians and God. Are we going to close churches? I'm far from racist but I do know history. Look it up. Here are some links to back up what I'm posting. Links: https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/joebidenstromthurmondeulogy.htm https://theconversation.com/im-an-m...be-able-to-view-king-in-the-same-light-118015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_who_owned_slaves
 
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Nothing but allegations. But that "Chinese citizen" is Guo Wengui , and exiled dissident that is hated by the Chinese government.

It's Biden and his son that are in bed with the Chinese. Biden flew his son on AF2 over to sign a $1.5 billion deal with the Chinese government.

This is what Biden said about China just a year ago.

“China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man,” the former vice president said.

“I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what? They’re not competition for us,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...nplaying-china-threat-u-s-fires-pols-n1001236

Amazing how you Dems just allow Biden a pass on everything. He is everything you claim Trump is, but twice as bad. Constantly lies. Numerous complaints from women. Numerous racist comments. Blatantly enriching his family and bragging about it. Even the hair plugs and fake teeth. You even have a video of him groping a child on the floor of the Senate, and you still somehow think he is a "good man". Comments about him enjoying children rubbing his legs and bouncing on this lap.

What a joke. Biden is a douchebag that make Trump look like a choir boy.

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Just 2 political anarchists cruising the seas in their luxurious super yacht. Nothing to see here!
 
So what does that make Joe Biden, who fought for many of the same segregationist policies in the 70s.

From NBC, back in 2019, when they were trying to prevent him from being the Dem nominee. Of course, the rest of the field sucked, and Biden became their best shot to win, so now he is suddenly a champion for black America.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk...mise-segregationists-he-fought-their-n1021626
I don't think we should name the fitness center after Biden either.
 
“Racism” is perception. Don’t see “thou shalt not be perceived as racist” in the Ten Commandments.

Adultery....adultery is an action. Looking at you JFK and MLK.

But yes; let’s focus on truly important and constructive things like renaming this building because “racism”. Because none of the antagonists pushing these efforts are themselves racist (I don’t even know what cancel culture means and don’t give a _____), and as soon as everything has been changed to suit them, they will then become beneficial and productive members of society as we enter a golden age of the United States.
 
No, actually lets not. Im tired of this he was a racist shit. He helped as many people of color as he did whites. He was caught in an era where reelection was the tied to the popular opinion of the time. Unless you actually lived it, you have no clue. He was not by any stretch a perfect man nor human being. But he helped more South Carolinians than he personally hurt. You cant change the past, not correct the deficiencies by trying to remove the memory. The only way is forward. The only way forward is correcting our foolish mistakes, by remembering where we've been. Empathy, love, respect, and above all forgiveness. Make it stick. Dont just agree and say it. Be brave and do it and call out publically anyone of any color that doesnt.
 
Strom Thurmond was a racist. There is no place where a racists name should be memorialized.

No one is disputing that Thurmond was a racist during much of his life, so were 75% of White Southerners in those days. Holding these people to today's standards is bullshit. Just like EVERY Human in history there are parts of Thurmond's life that are regrettable, and others that are exemplary. He did some things that were downright disgraceful, and other things that did wonders for SC.

Cancel culture run amok. In forty years, your generation will face similar standards that were acceptable in 2020, that wont be in 2060. Thank God I won't be here to see this type shit again!
 
No one is disputing that Thurmond was a racist during much of his life, so were 75% of White Southerners in those days. Holding these people to today's standards is bullshit. Just like EVERY Human in history there are parts of Thurmond's life that are regrettable, and others that are exemplary. He did some things that were downright disgraceful, and other things that did wonders for SC.

Cancel culture run amok. In forty years, your generation will face similar standards that were acceptable in 2020, that wont be in 2060. Thank God I won't be here to see this type shit again!
It's not about comparing today's standards to what happened back then. The racist and disgraceful part of Strom Thurmond's history is what made him nationally known and is his legacy to most people. It's not like he is known for being prominent in a certain skill/ career and just happen to hold racist views, his segregationist views is what made him a big deal. He never formerly renounced his past and while he made little changes over the years he never was as outspoken about the rights of minorities as he was to minimize them in past.
 
I don't think we should name the fitness center after Biden either.

But he should be President? How does he get a pass on that if the people the actively supported and praised aren't deserving to even have their name on a building?
 
It's not about comparing today's standards to what happened back then. The racist and disgraceful part of Strom Thurmond's history is what made him nationally known and is his legacy to most people. It's not like he is known for being prominent in a certain skill/ career and just happen to hold racist views, his segregationist views is what made him a big deal. He never formerly renounced his past and while he made little changes over the years he never was as outspoken about the rights of minorities as he was to minimize them in past.
Totally false.
 
It's not about comparing today's standards to what happened back then. The racist and disgraceful part of Strom Thurmond's history is what made him nationally known and is his legacy to most people. It's not like he is known for being prominent in a certain skill/ career and just happen to hold racist views, his segregationist views is what made him a big deal. He never formerly renounced his past and while he made little changes over the years he never was as outspoken about the rights of minorities as he was to minimize them in past.
He most certainly did. See my post way above when Joe Biden eulogized him at his funeral in Columbia.
 
I watched it and I don't know what you're referring to, what did he do?
He said that Strom renounced what he used to believe and turned into a senator for all. He really loved South Carolina and did many things in favor of it. For that, they became close friends for 30 years in the senate.
 
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He said that Strom recanted what he used to believe and turned into a senator for all. For that, they became close friends for 30 years in the senate.
So his friend said he changed his views in private conversation to him. That is not exactly an apology to the public for promoting/pronlonging dangerous views that impacted minorities in this country.
 
So this is what Moe Brown is all about. Didn't take him long to fall right in line with the Democrats politics of race and hate.
 
So his friend said he changed his views in private conversation to him. That is not exactly an apology to the public for promoting/pronlonging dangerous views that impacted minorities in this country.
If Joe Biden and the rest of our US senate forgave him, you cannot? Were you even born while he was still alive? BTW, he is my sister-in-law's relative. I've never met him but he was a very well respected among most everybody. This whole mess started with the police brutality he had nothing to do with. We all have our views and I respect yours even though I don't agree with it. Hatred is what is dividing our country right now and it's coming from lots of different angles. Even Jesus preached to forgive.
 
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As a few others have stated, I think a review of Thurmond's contributions to USC should be done. He WAS a racist, and Yale University is named after Elihu Yale. An English-American SLAVE TRADER! Go figure, a bastion of liberalism like Yale, honoring a known slave trader!

Ole Strom had a half Black daughter you know? He supported her his entire life, even though she was 'spawned' out of wedlock! Perhaps he wasn't as racist as he appeared?

The cancel culture continues. No one in history is allowed to have made mistakes, of held views considered taboo today.

I'm not supporting Thurmond, or his past, I'm simply saying that today and yesterday can be very different. Thurmond did a hell of a lot for this state during his political career. Kamala Harris reportedly has an ancestor from Jamaica that owned over two hundred slaves? Is this true? I don’t know, just heard this the other day. Should be fairly easy to verify. If so, he was a Black slave owner. Gosh, if you look in most anyone's closet, you'd likely find a skeleton or two!
I was an intern for Senator Thurmond in 1980 and at that stage of his life he was not a racist and was a very nice, caring person. He had a lot influence, was a great advocate, and cared deeply for the state of South Carolina.
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
 
If Joe Biden and the rest of our US senate forgave him, you cannot? Were you even born while he was still alive? BTW, he is my sister-in-law's relative. I've never met him but he was a very well respected among most everybody. This whole mess started with the police brutality he had nothing to do with. We all have our views and I respect yours even though I don't agree with it. Hatred is what is dividing our country right now and it's coming from lots of different angles. Even Jesus preached to forgive.
This has nothing to do with recent police brutality protesting. People were against the naming of the gym when it was announced. I can only speak on behalf of my black relatives and from those who are passed away over the years to now, they don't like the man for what he stood for and the scandal of him not acknowleding his black daughter to the public despite everything was adding salt to the wound to my family. So to answer you question, I don't hate the man, I didn't like some of his political views but I don't hate him, but having said that I don't think he deserves to be celebrated at USC.
 
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Several mentions of cancel culture in this thread. Funny, these same people are apparently fine with the king of right wing cancel culture himself. Just a few days ago our pathological liar & wannabe King was using his position to urge his sheep to boycott Goodyear Tires. Where is the outrage hypocrites?
 
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Biden and ole KKK Robert Byrd were huge buddies. Times change, and hopefully people do too. The cancel culture doesn't allow those aspects to be considered?

Yet Biden is seen as a non racist!

"You ain't Black if you don't vote for me"
"Poor kids can be just as smart as WHITE KIDS"

Two verified comments made by JB in 2019 and 2020.

Done gone political now!
Poor doesn't equal black. Wealth is almost a category owned solely by whites. I believe that was his point.
 
Several mentions of cancel culture in this thread. Funny, these same people are apparently fine with the king of right wing cancel culture himself. Just a few days ago our pathological liar & wannabe King was using his position to urge his sheep to boycott Goodyear Tires. Where is the outrage hypocrites?

Wrong. Nothing hypocritical about it.

Goodyear allowed leftist political attire and tried to cancel anything supporting the right. Trump turned the tables on them. And it's time everyone did. The cancel hunters need to become the cancel hunted.

No different than anything with Trump. The media and leftist attack him relentlessly, and then cry like a bunch of damn nancy kerrigans when he punches back.
 
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Here's the thing about the statues. The side that lost is not allowed to be honored.

From Gen. Mark Milley

“The Confederacy, the American Civil War was fought, and it was an act of rebellion,” the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, told members of the House Armed Services Committee. “It was an act of treason at the time against the Union, against the Stars and Stripes, against the U.S. Constitution, and those officers turned their back on their oath.”

We cannot honor men who committed treason. This is the reason all confederate statues should be removed.
 
Wrong. Nothing hypocritical about it.

Goodyear allowed leftist political attire and tried to cancel anything supporting the right. Trump turned the tables on them. And it's time everyone did. The cancel hunters need to become the cancel hunted.

No different than anything with Trump. The media and leftist attack him relentless, and then cry like a bunch of damn nancy kerrigans when he punches back.
So wouldn't that be another form of cancel culture, and wouldn't that make you the hunted?
 
It’s not like this is an actual statue of Thurmond or a building that he built, designed, or financed himself. It could have any name under the sun, or no name at all. It might as well be the Get Swole & Tight Center (GSTC). But there is certainly no need to name it after a guy that made it his job to keep America segregated as long as possible while having an actual African American daughter that he was evidently ashamed of (his biggest sin IMHO). This gym is not “history.” It wasn’t even around when most of us posters went to school.
 
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