Thoughts on the upstate school final record?

[EssoClub2]

2015 Clemson Football Schedule


Sept. 5 - WOFFORD
Sept. 12 - APPALACHIAN STATE
Sept. 17 - at Louisville
Oct. 3 - NOTRE DAME
Oct. 10 - GEORGIA TECH
Oct. 17 - BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 24 - at Miami
Oct. 31 - at NC State
Nov. 7 - FLORIDA STATE
Nov. 14 - at Syracuse
Nov. 21 - WAKE FOREST
Nov. 28 - at South Carolina

 

[Rod Dangerfield]

Not real sure about the defense, so I'll say 10-2. If they had this year's defense, I'd give 'em 11-1.

 

[ipull4usc]

10-2 seems about right, but I'm not sure who the losses will be to, there aren't any obvious losses on the schedule. FSU will be good of course, but the game is in Clemson and I think FSU will take a big hit losing Winston. The schedule is certainly set up for Clemson to have a great year and potentially make the playoff, it'll depend on how good their defense is.

 

[Rod Dangerfield]

I definitely see a loss to Louisville. The other will come from a pool of Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Miami, NC Hate, Florida St., Syracuse, or the Cocks. They'll lose one of them.

 

[EssoClub2]

Originally posted by Rod Dangerfield:
I definitely see a loss to Louisville. The other will come from a pool of Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Miami, NC Hate, Florida St., Syracuse, or the Cocks. They'll lose one of them.

The Louisville game is one I circled quickly. I did look at Louisville schedule and see that they are playing Houston on Saturday before the Thursday night Clemson game. So Louisville will be on a short week. I understand that Houston is a pretty weak opponent, but it does help Clemson that Louisville will be playing on a 5 day cycle.

 

[USCEgghead]

Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

I see 5 - 7 losses.




Sat., Sept. 5: Wofford
Sat., Sept. 12: Appalachian State
Thu., Sept. 17: at Louisville
Sat., Sept. 26: Open
Sat., Oct. 3: Notre Dame
Sat., Oct. 10: Georgia Tech
Sat., Oct. 17: Boston College
Sat., Oct. 24: at Miami
Sat., Oct. 31: at N.C. State
Sat., Nov. 7: Florida State
Sat., Nov. 14: at Syracuse
Sat., Nov. 21: Wake Forest
Sat., Nov. 28: at South Carolina

 

[Quisp]

Re: Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

That's a real murderer's row of a September. Two Bi-lo specials, one game and an off date.

 

[CCUIrmo]

Re: Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

All depends on their defense next year. I think offensively they can run with anyone, however they may be next year like we were this year, Have to outscore most opponents. They will tell you their defense will be really good but just like us, you cant lose tat much talent and not have a drop off.
If their defense is pretty good, I see a 9-3 record. f it is not very good, I see 6-6.

 

[trucheck]

Re: Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

Hhhmmmm I only see 3 teams ranked in the final top 25.

Wonder how many we will have?

 

[jdf1953]

Losses will be Loiusville, ND, Ga Tech and USC. And that's based on super fly not being out most of the season.

 

[coloradogamecock#]

I would expect losses to Louisville, ND, and SC. 10-3 overall. Not bad with the personnel losses from this last year.

 

[ClemsonGentleman]

Re: Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

Originally posted by Quisp:
That's a real murderer's row of a September. Two Bi-lo specials, one game and an off date.

We were scheduled to play Ole Miss instead of Ap State (now Division 1), but Ole Miss backed out, but I doubt you care.

 

[GamecockTripp]

Re: Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

Originally posted by ClemsonGentleman:

Originally posted by Quisp:
That's a real murderer's row of a September. Two Bi-lo specials, one game and an off date.

We were scheduled to play Ole Miss instead of Ap State (now Division 1), but Ole Miss backed out, but I doubt you care.

If you're going to come on here and run your mouth at least get your facts straight.

Clemson cancels Oklahoma State, Ole Miss series

 

[Gamecock in Fort Mill]

Re: Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

I'm not sure you are 100% correct here. This is an excerpt from July of 2012 and the article clearly indicates that clemson cancelled the games, not the other way around.


Clemson cancels Future Football Games vs. Oklahoma State and Ole MissBy Kevin Kelley - July 18, 2012

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As a result of the new nine-game ACC football schedule, the Clemson Tigers have canceled future football games against Oklahoma State and Ole Miss.

Clemson was slated to host Ole Miss on Oct. 3, 2015 and travel to face the Rebels on Sept. 10, 2016. The Tigers were also tentatively scheduled to play a home-and-home series against Oklahoma State in 2019 and 2020.

"We didn't want to get out of that series," Clemson athletics director Terry Don Phillips told OrangeandWhite.com. "It's a good series. We did save the Georgia series (in 2013-14), and that was extremely important. But given the realities of other universities at our level, we need to play seven home games."

"A home-and-home situation, we just can't do it. I hate it. I'd like to keep the series. But reality demands in the long term that we keep seven home games every year, with the Georgia series being the exception."

With Syracuse now set to nine-game conference schedule. That means each team will only have four home conference games every other year. In those years, teams such as Clemson will want to have three non-conference home games to bring in revenue.

That means less home-and-home series and more one-game contracts against schools such as South Carolina State and Wofford. It's not the ideal situation for fans who want to see big-time non-conference games. But most schools want that seventh home game if they can get it.

Clemson will likely have to cancel a non-conference game in 2013 and 2014 as well. The Tigers currently have four games scheduled for each of those seasons. Since Georgia and South Carolina are both safe, either Kent State or The Citadel will be nixed in 2013 and either Central Michigan or Coastal Carolina in 2014.

Here is a look at Clemson's future non-conference schedules after the cancellation of both Oklahoma State and Ole Miss:

2013 - Georgia, Kent State, The Citadel, at South Carolina
2014 - at Georgia, Coastal Carolina, Central Michigan, South Carolina
2015 - Wofford, at South Carolina
2016 - South Carolina State, South Carolina

 

[Cocky4SC]

Re: Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

But...But... Clemson will beat anyone... Heck, didn't you hear, that they played a "national championship contending team in Oklahoma in the bowl game" per Dabo. They would NEVER cancel a series against anyone...wait...what...um...they did.... well this just a little awkward.... Well Clemson is now playing....App State.... Heck, they are national championship contenders....All you can say to their logic.


TATERS GONNA TATE!!!!!!

 

[USCEgghead]

Losses to:

Louisville
Notre Dame
GA Tech
BC
Miami
FSU
USC


Done deal!

 

[SHillTIger]

Re: Clemson's 2015 Football Schedule

Originally posted by Cocky4SC:
But...But... Clemson will beat anyone... Heck, didn't you hear, that they played a "national championship contending team in Oklahoma in the bowl game" per Dabo. They would NEVER cancel a series against anyone...wait...what...um...they did.... well this just a little awkward.... Well Clemson is now playing....App State.... Heck, they are national championship contenders....All you can say to their logic.


TATERS GONNA TATE!!!!!!

Lets be real here. It wasnt because Clemson was scared to play anyone. It was because the ACC announced the 9 game conference schedule so we had to drop some games. When the ACC back tracked and decided to stay at 8 games we had to scramble to find someone with an open date who was willing to play us. Most teams already have there future OOC schedules filled years in advance so you have to take what you can get. I guess App State was it.

 

[TheRoosterGuru]

8-4 losses to Louisville, Notre Dame, GT, and South Carolina. Got them beating FSU at home.

 

[SHillTIger]

Originally posted by TrailerParkBoy:
8-4 losses to Louisville, Notre Dame, GT, and South Carolina. Got them beating FSU at home.

I dont think we lose to GT at home. Our defense has held GT pretty well in check since Venables was hired. Even in his first season they didnt do horrible against the option. I would call the other 3 toss ups at this point. Louisville lost a ton of play makers on both sides of the ball. Not sure what ND has coming back. As far as you guys I am in wait and see mode. You guys have to have a QB step up for you or its going to be a rough year.

 

[SClanding]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

games without injury.....he has had 4 major injuries in 12 months....so the odds are not good.

If he stays healthy, Clemson may win 9 games, if not then with the problems on defense...Clemson is looking at 7 losses.

 

[psmith5532]

I can't think of another team that will depend on one player more Clemson will with Watson. Keep him healthy and you guys will win 10-11 games...gets hurt then you are looking at 6-7 wins. Defense won't bail you out this time if he goes down.

 

[pepsicock]

8-4

 

[SHillTIger]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

Originally posted by SClanding:
games without injury.....he has had 4 major injuries in 12 months....so the odds are not good.

If he stays healthy, Clemson may win 9 games, if not then with the problems on defense...Clemson is looking at 7 losses.

I would like to wait and watch the defense and see if we have major problems before I automatically say we will. I do know we will take a step back but at this point we really dont know what to expect on defense. We actually have a solid group coming back as starters but depth is a concern at this point. Nobody thought SC would have all the problems they had on defense this season and there is no reason to think because SC was really bad on D that Clemson will be equally as bad on defense. I am in no way saying they will be world beaters but I dont think they will be horrible either.

 

[uscdoc]

I remember Clemson people gleefully warning us that our D would be depleted and vulnerable in 2014. Now it is their turn. They will lose to at least four teams- including us. Their D will be depleted and vulnerable-haha.

 

[Cocky4SC]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

Hard to say Clemsux will lose more than three games due to the crappy league they play in. The only teams inside the ACC that can field a decent team against them are ND,GT,FSU,Miami.

Clemson's defense will look like world beaters against their competition... Play true competition week in and week out, they would fall flat on their faces.

Their season will be defined by Watson. If he plays in all the games they go 10-2. If he doesn't and lets say he misses two/three they will go 8-4 or 7-5. Simple as that.

 

[Cackdiesel]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

I think they''ll make the playoff. And they should definitly make the playoff the following year. Their recruiting has been great and this year is no different. If Watson gets hurt though, things change a lot. May lose a game or two, but a conference chamionship probably gets them in.
This post was edited on 1/30 11:13 AM by Cackdiesel

 

[baseballfan8277]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

Originally posted by Cocky4SC:
Hard to say Clemsux will lose more than three games due to the crappy league they play in. The only teams inside the ACC that can field a decent team against them are ND,GT,FSU,Miami.

Clemson's defense will look like world beaters against their competition... Play true competition week in and week out, they would fall flat on their faces.

Their season will be defined by Watson. If he plays in all the games they go 10-2. If he doesn't and lets say he misses two/three they will go 8-4 or 7-5. Simple as that.

I can agree with you that Clemson's schedule in 2014 was not as difficult as years past but a lot of that was due to the ACC schedule and teams that were expected to be good (see UNC preseason) falling on their face. We did schedule UGA and USC out of conference so you can't say we didn't make an effort.

That said, the 2015 schedule should be much tougher and present legitimate competition. Louisville, GT, ND, FSU, and USC are all legitimate games. I would put that schedule up against USC's in a SOS comparison. USC has UGA, Missouri, LSU, and Clemson. You could make a case for UT, UF and TAMU as tough games but based on last years final results it is hard to consider those as tough games for a top 15 caliber team. I would put those teams in the mold of BC, Miami, and NC State. They will not be walkovers, but they should be wins by more than a TD.

Then there are the Wake Forest and Syracuse games. These would compare to your game with Vandy and UK. These should be penciled in wins when the season starts.

To answer the original question. I see Clemson as 11-1 with the loss to either FSU or GT. We will win one of the two but not both IMO. The other wildcard is the Thurs trip to LOU on short rest. That could be a trap game.

 

[Yellow Fin Fan]

I'll give you my 75-50-25 predictions:

75% likelihood - 7-5 (with losses to Louisville, ND, Miami, Fla. St., USC)
50% likelihood - 8-4 (with losses to Louisville, ND, & Fla. St., and USC)
25% likelihood - 5-7 (with losses to Louisville, ND, GT, BC, Miami, Fla. St., USC)

 

[marshmk]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

Originally posted by Cocky4SC:
Hard to say Clemsux will lose more than three games due to the crappy league they play in. The only teams inside the ACC that can field a decent team against them are ND,GT,FSU,Miami.

Clemson's defense will look like world beaters against their competition... Play true competition week in and week out, they would fall flat on their faces.

Their season will be defined by Watson. If he plays in all the games they go 10-2. If he doesn't and lets say he misses two/three they will go 8-4 or 7-5. Simple as that.

Our 'fall flat on their faces defense' looked pretty d@mn good against the statistically best offense y'all ever fielded this past season.

This post was edited on 1/30 4:07 PM by marshmk

This post was edited on 1/30 4:07 PM by marshmk

 

[MANAFOLD]

Why are we having this discussion? I personally don't give a damn about Tillman college's crummy little schedule.

 

[LegalTiger]

Originally posted by MANAFOLD:

Why are we having this discussion? I personally don't give a damn about Tillman college's crummy little schedule.

You cared enough to respond, given your amazing football knowledge, I am interested in your prediction.

This post was edited on 1/30 5:04 PM by LegalTiger

 

[CaliCock]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

Originally posted by SHillTIger:

Originally posted by SClanding:
games without injury.....he has had 4 major injuries in 12 months....so the odds are not good.

If he stays healthy, Clemson may win 9 games, if not then with the problems on defense...Clemson is looking at 7 losses.

I would like to wait and watch the defense and see if we have major problems before I automatically say we will. I do know we will take a step back but at this point we really dont know what to expect on defense. We actually have a solid group coming back as starters but depth is a concern at this point. Nobody thought SC would have all the problems they had on defense this season and there is no reason to think because SC was really bad on D that Clemson will be equally as bad on defense. I am in no way saying they will be world beaters but I dont think they will be horrible either.

the difference is that we had established a tradition of having strong defenses going all the way back to the Holtz years, we were perennial Top 10-20 in defense. That is the reason no one expected us to have all the problems we did, in the past when we'd lose a group of super guys we'd replace them with new stars. So far Tillman Tech's "great defense" can only be categorized as a one hit wonder. I and the rest of the football watching world fully expect the Tillmans to go back to their normal tepid at best production next season, in fact i will be shocked if they dont.

 

[LegalTiger]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

Since 2003, Scar led Clemson in Defense stats in 2009, 2011, 2012 and 2013. You might want to reconsider this theory. Plenty of people, including me predicted Scar's defense would struggle this season, but none were on Scar's coaching staff.

 

[kocky75]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

Since this is a Carolina board (supposedly at times), I could honestly give a crap what clemson does. I don't know their schedule, nor do I care. Well, except for the last game of the year
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[racetrac]

Re: Entirely dependent on whether Watson can play consecutive

clemsongentleman, can clemson tell the truth about anything?