Titus Touch Car Wash

[gfluvsthecocks]

If anyone can figure out how much this property sold for over market, you'll have your record of Clemson cheating.

http://m.realtytrac.com/property/sc/florence/29506/101-e-darlington-st/245985461

 

[gfluvsthecocks]

http://m.realtytrac.com/property/sc/florence/29506/101-e-darlington-st/245985461

 

[GamecockJL]

I hope someone figures it out.

 

[jimnasium]

What date did he commit?

 

[Ken M.]

What date did he commit?

Think it was right around the spring game, so early April?

 

[GamecockJL]

4/8/17

What date did he commit?

 

[gfluvsthecocks]

I did a secretary of state business search. The registered agent is Scott Howard of Simpsonville. Interestingly, there's a 25 year old instructor at Clemson named Scott Howard, who is originally from Simpsonville. It would be interesting to know who Mr. Howard Sr. Is and how he ended up owning a car wash in Florence.

 

[GamecockJL]

It says it was sold on 3/29/17 also. For 325,000. That would have been right before he committed.

 

[Ken M.]

I did a secretary of state business search. The registered agent is Scott Howard of Simpsonville. Interestingly, there's a 25 year old instructor at Clemson named Scott Howard, who is originally from Simpsonville. It would be interesting to know who Mr. Howard Sr. Is and how he ended up owning a car wash in Florence.

Keep digging. I’m sure you’ll crack this case.

 

[jimnasium]

Think it was right around the spring game, so early April?

It was April 8th and it sold in August it looks like I wonder who (hmmm) bought that prime property and is it up and running again? Wow 60 thugs within one mile....hahaha

 

[GamecockJL]

N

 

[CockofEarle]

If anyone can figure out how much this property sold for over market, you'll have your record of Clemson cheating.

http://m.realtytrac.com/property/sc/florence/29506/101-e-darlington-st/245985461

who would have even known they wash their cars n darlington county????

 

[jimnasium]

THIS JUST IN: I see it was actually sold in March of 2017 funny he committed in April. AH HA!

 

[jimnasium]

4/8/17

Bingo and it sold in March 2017

 

[jimnasium]

4/8/17

Just a coincidence.

 

[gfluvsthecocks]

So according to LinkedIn the younger Scott Howard is a Clemson alum, went to MUSC for an accelerated Nursing Degree and comes back to Clemson as an instructor. He also held down a job working as a stadium sales associate for Barnes and Noble at Clemson. This all leads me to infer that his father has strong connections to Clemson.

Can someone in the area show what tax value was on that property?

 

[jimnasium]

So according to LinkedIn the younger Scott Howard is a Clemson alum, went to MUSC for an accelerated Nursing Degree and comes back to Clemson as an instructor. He also held down a job working as a stadium sales associate for Barnes and Noble at Clemson. This all leads me to infer that his father has strong connections to Clemson.

Can someone in the area show what tax value was on that property?

Can't be high the area is saturated with sex offenders. Plain as the nose on your face what the deal was.

 

[gfluvsthecocks]

Dads house in Simpsonville is close to a half million and over 4k sq ft.

 

[robertfootball]

NCAA isn't smart enough to put 2 and 2 together.

 

[NooNoo]

It was klempson boosters. That is the rumor around Florence. By the way, i am from Florence.

 

[GamecockJL]

Bingo and it sold in March 2017

Makes too much sense.

 

[jimnasium]

Makes too much sense.

Makes all the sense in the world doesn't it?

 

[NooNoo]

Gives you spending $ for vehicles and homo purses (not that there is anything wrong with that).

 

[864visor]

So according to LinkedIn the younger Scott Howard is a Clemson alum, went to MUSC for an accelerated Nursing Degree and comes back to Clemson as an instructor. He also held down a job working as a stadium sales associate for Barnes and Noble at Clemson. This all leads me to infer that his father has strong connections to Clemson.

Can someone in the area show what tax value was on that property?

48,000
It is stated in the link above.

 

[bushmastercock]

The lot size is approx 1/4 of an acre and the structure was less than 1800sq ft. and it sold for $325k in March? It’d be interesting to see what it sold for in August and to whom it was sold

 

[GamecockJL]

The lot size is approx 1/4 of an acre and the structure was less than 1800sq ft. and it sold for $325k in March? It’d be interesting to see what it sold for in August and to whom it was sold

Nm

 

[GamecockJL]

The lot size is approx 1/4 of an acre and the structure was less than 1800sq ft. and it sold for $325k in March? It’d be interesting to see what it sold for in August and to whom it was sold

Guy on TOS says it was sold for $5 in August.
With land value of $14,400.

Could just be transferring the property for tax purposes with the whole $5 thing.

 

[NooNoo]

Pretty random to buy Florence property out of Simpsonville eh? https://www.bizapedia.com/sc/titus-touch-llc.html

 

[bushmastercock]

Guy on TOS says it was sold for $5 in August.
With land value of $14,400.

If true, that’s hilarious. Sold for $325k in March and a week later XT commits to clemson. Then in August it sells for 5 bucks? Sounds like they have either done it so much they don’t think they’ll get caught, or they don’t give a s*** if they do because the NCAA won’t do s***

 

[gfluvsthecocks]

Woodrow V Johnson of Florence bought Titus Touch Car Wash and the property with a tax value of $54,868 for $325,000 on March 29, 2017. He then turned around and sold it / gifted it for $5 to the Palmetto Housing Corporation on August 25. The Palmetto Housing Corporation appears to be a legitimate non profit, but why would you over pay for a property and then give it away less than 6 months later.

Woodrow Johnson is the owner of W. Johnson & Sons trucking company in Florence. I'm looking for a connection to Clemson but Woodrow Dantzler is making it harder to find anything on Google.

 

[GamecockJL]

If true, that’s hilarious. Sold for $325k in March and a week later XT commits to clemson. Then in August it sells for 5 bucks? Sounds like they have either done it so much they don’t think they’ll get caught, or they don’t give a s*** if they do because the NCAA won’t do s***

They’re saying it could be just the person transferring it for tax purposes but who knows?

 

[gfluvsthecocks]

http://qpublic5.qpublic.net/ga_display_dw.php?county=sc_florence&KEY=90086-05-010

That link shows the transfer names. Woodrow Johnson was the owner. The SC Secretarty of State shows that Scott Howard became the registered agent for Titus Touch LLC. This was the March 29th transaction. Then, out of the goodness of his heart, Woodrow Johnson donated a property worth $54,868, that he significantly overpaid for to a local non profit (likely for a tax write off).

If we can prove the relationship between Woodrow Johnson or W. Johnson & Sons to Clemson we have a pretty good case.

 

[Cybercock]

All I can say is that if this is found to be true don't take it to the NCAA because they obviously don't give a rat's ass

 

[Wahootiger]

Just a coincidence.

http://qpublic5.qpublic.net/ga_display_dw.php?county=sc_florence&KEY=90086-05-010

That link shows the transfer names. Woodrow Johnson was the owner. The SC Secretarty of State shows that Scott Howard became the registered agent for Titus Touch LLC. This was the March 29th transaction. Then, out of the goodness of his heart, Woodrow Johnson donated a property worth $54,868, that he significantly overpaid for to a local non profit (likely for a tax write off).

If we can prove the relationship between Woodrow Johnson or W. Johnson & Sons to Clemson we have a pretty good case.

Geez ... you guys are getting sooo excited with your little sleuthing and its been really entertaining... as usual. But you might want to consider there are several ways to appraise the FMV of a property / business. The net income method would yield a value around $ 325,000 if the business generated net revenue just under $ 30,000 annually. But please continue your delusions.

 

[gfluvsthecocks]

Geez ... you guys are getting sooo excited with your little sleuthing and its been really entertaining... as usual. But you might want to consider there are several ways to appraise the FMV of a property / business. The net income method would yield a value around $ 325,000 if the business generated net revenue just under $ 30,000 annually. But please continue your delusions.

So you really think ole Woodrow is such a great businessman that he wanted to buy a shitty car wash for $325,000, close the business, and give away the land in 5 months with no ROI?

 

[treetop flier]

Sorry I missed out on this investment opportunity for only $325000

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[slufstuff]

Being a close family member of a Clemson football recruit is more lucrative than winning the lottery.

Or is this another one of those "my aunt let me borrow the money for a picture" deals?

 

[Wahootiger]

So you really think ole Woodrow is such a great businessman that he wanted to buy a shitty car wash for $325,000, close the business, and give away the land in 5 months with no ROI?

Don’t know and don’t care. Maybe he thought gifting an asset that could be a revenue generating asset was helpful for the not-for-profit. That is a fairly common type of asset (revenue producing) to gift.

 

[suncock]

So we've got a Clemsux fan who read Business Appraisals For Dummies who believes that an appraisal of a car washing business in Florence, SC could credibly be valued at 10x EBITDA. Wow.

 

[GamecockJL]

Why would the city of Florence spend so much on that land? I think that’s the bigger question now.