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Seeing the passing of Joe Lee Dunn, I started reading about some of the old Morrison Day as Dunn was one of the guys Joe played racquet ball with the day he died. Of course it’s hard to read about Morrison without reading about the Steroid Scandal.

My question is, what are the fans thoughts on former DL Tommy Chaikin who is responsible for going to Sports Illustrated and contributing to the article being written. I know he accused many, Including Todd Ellis, of asking for steroids. Ellis seemed frustrated with Chaikin, saying the team felt betrayed by him as he should’ve come to the team if he had issues rather than going to the media. Of course all deny Chaikin’s accusations.

It’s crazy reading about him having the barrel of a gun on his chin in The Roost the night before the 1987 Clemson - Carolina game. He eventually let his dad come get him and he missed the game as they flew to Washington DC to get him some help. He said former teammates have reached out from time to time, even inviting him to come to a game at Williams-Brice…but at the time (around 2005) he wasn’t sure what the fan response would be.

I do wonder what the response would be…
 
Seeing the passing of Joe Lee Dunn, I started reading about some of the old Morrison Day as Dunn was one of the guys Joe played racquet ball with the day he died. Of course it’s hard to read about Morrison without reading about the Steroid Scandal.

My question is, what are the fans thoughts on former DL Tommy Chaikin who is responsible for going to Sports Illustrated and contributing to the article being written. I know he accused many, Including Todd Ellis, of asking for steroids. Ellis seemed frustrated with Chaikin, saying the team felt betrayed by him as he should’ve come to the team if he had issues rather than going to the media. Of course all deny Chaikin’s accusations.

It’s crazy reading about him having the barrel of a gun on his chin in The Roost the night before the 1987 Clemson - Carolina game. He eventually let his dad come get him and he missed the game as they flew to Washington DC to get him some help. He said former teammates have reached out from time to time, even inviting him to come to a game at Williams-Brice…but at the time (around 2005) he wasn’t sure what the fan response would be.

I do wonder what the response would be…
It is all water under the bridge now, and not worth revisiting.
 
Seeing the passing of Joe Lee Dunn, I started reading about some of the old Morrison Day as Dunn was one of the guys Joe played racquet ball with the day he died. Of course it’s hard to read about Morrison without reading about the Steroid Scandal.

My question is, what are the fans thoughts on former DL Tommy Chaikin who is responsible for going to Sports Illustrated and contributing to the article being written. I know he accused many, Including Todd Ellis, of asking for steroids. Ellis seemed frustrated with Chaikin, saying the team felt betrayed by him as he should’ve come to the team if he had issues rather than going to the media. Of course all deny Chaikin’s accusations.

It’s crazy reading about him having the barrel of a gun on his chin in The Roost the night before the 1987 Clemson - Carolina game. He eventually let his dad come get him and he missed the game as they flew to Washington DC to get him some help. He said former teammates have reached out from time to time, even inviting him to come to a game at Williams-Brice…but at the time (around 2005) he wasn’t sure what the fan response would be.

I do wonder what the response would be…
I remember the SI article came out the week of the game at Georgia Tech, where we got clobbered in a humiliating upset. Bad week indeed.
 
By PETE IACOBELLI / Associated Press
Posted Aug 27, 2005 at 4:01 AM
Long before Jose Canseco’s tell-all book or the televised congressional hearings, the spotlight on steroid abuse in sports centered on South Carolina’s football team and the frightening tale of former defensive lineman Tommy Chaikin.
In 1988, when few people could pronounce “stanozolol” let alone understand its effects, Chaikin wrote in “Sports Illustrated” of routine and rampant steroid use, unexpected rage and his near-suicide the night before the Clemson game.
Chaikin co-wrote the piece, “The Nightmare of Steroids,” with Rick Telander and claimed South Carolina coaches encouraged steroid use to improve performance. Chaikin, with the Gamecocks from 1983 to 1987, said about half the 1986 club used steroids.
“I don’t judge. I’m not an expert,” Chaikin told The Associated Press by phone Wednesday from his Maryland home.
“I used them. If I had to do it over again, I wouldn’t have done them.”
Time also has mellowed Chaikin’s views about telling his story to the nation. “I did it,” he said. “But I was young and didn’t understand the ramifications of opening my mouth to the press.”
Ex-sports information director Kerry Tharp recalled receiving an advance copy of the story and heading to the office of the late coach Joe Morrison.
“Coach, you need to read this,” Tharp told Morrison.
“He looked at the first couple of pages, but I really can’t say what he said” because of Morrison’s stark, angry language, Tharp remembered.


Steroids have become the “oh no” buzzword of American sports. Any change in an athlete’s appearance or performance leads to whispers that he’s “on the juice.” Baseball fans of all ages tuned in to watch Canseco, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa testify as a congressional panel tried to get to the bottom of steroid use in baseball.
A scandal such as Chaikin alleged likely would send a college program into a tailspin today, but 20 years ago, few outside the locker room or the gym knew what steroids could do or the toll they could take.
“It was common knowledge that we were using the stuff. I had bottles of juice all over the place. ... Coaches would walk in and see the stuff, but nobody gave a damn,” Chaikin wrote.
The problems Chaikin had were evident in his article’s first few lines. He describes sitting in The Roost, South Carolina’s athletic dorm at the time, the day before playing Clemson in 1987 with the barrel of a .357-caliber Magnum “pressed under my chin.”
“A .357 is a man’s gun, and I knew what it would do to me,” the story said. “My finger twitched on the trigger.”
Chaikin wrote that he eventually let his father come in to his room and the two flew to a hospital in Washington, D.C., missing the Clemson game. He had rarely surfaced publicly since then.
“Once in a while people try and track me down,” Chaikin says now. “I guess I’ve been reluctant to talk about it.”


As for nearly killing himself in a dorm room, “I was pretty beat up. But that’s a big step to take,” he says. “I don’t know how close I was to that.”
However, Chaikin’s accusations appeared to negatively affect the Gamecocks.
The 1988 team opened 6-0 but lost four of their final six games -- most of those defeats coming after Chaikin’s charges.
South Carolina assistants Jim Washburn, Keith Kephart and Tom Kurucz pleaded guilty in federal court to misdemeanors involving steroids.
Leaders in the athletic department had to deal with increased athlete drug testing and harsher outside scrutiny.
“It was a scary time,” said Sparky Woods, who took over as South Carolina’s head coach after Morrison’s death in 1989.
Washburn, sentenced to three months in a halfway house in 1989, had little interest in reliving his South Carolina days. “That’s about the last thing I want to talk about,” said Washburn, an assistant with the NFL’s Tennessee Titans.


Todd Ellis, then the team’s star quarterback and now its radio announcer, said Chaikin’s story affected players who wondered how someone who shared their world would turn on them.
“No question there was betrayal, hurt and surprise,” said Ellis, an attorney. “If he had problems, he should’ve come to the team and talked instead of bringing in third parties. I’m not sure what the gain was for Tommy Chaikin. ... Nobody understood.”
In fact, Chaikin’s story said Ellis asked to get steroids. Ellis denied it then and now. “The alleged stories were blown well out of proportion from what I know,” he said.
Tharp recalled Chaikin as “kind of quiet, someone who flew under the radar.”
“Looking back on it, though, you could see where people are probably thinking these guys did have some big weight gains,” Tharp said.
For a while after Chaikin’s article, players forged an “us against them” bond to deal with the daily headlines and TV cameras. “It could be pretty brutal,” Ellis said. “We were very passionate. We had to circle up and come together.”
Tharp said the negative publicity was overwhelming. “It was a very disappointing time,” he said. “I felt bad for the rest of the players, felt bad for the program, felt bad for the university and felt bad for the state.”


The school escaped serious NCAA sanctions despite the steroid problems and the federal court cases, but it took time to wash away the stain of Chaikin’s words.
Other recruiters would paint the Gamecocks as a drug-using school that broke rules. And the new staff had to deal with the lax attitudes about drinking and drug use by players they didn’t recruit. “They kind of brought me in to clean up Tombstone,” Woods said. “I did what they mandated me to do.”
Still, given the serious allegations, other issues soon swept past steroid worries for South Carolina.
Morrison died unexpectedly in the winter of 1989. The biggest issues of the next two seasons were the school turning down bowl bids because of conflicts with final exams, something Woods regrets to this day.
By the time South Carolina was accepted in the Southeastern Conference for the 1992 season, Chaikin’s story was a little-discussed matter among fans, players and the team.
The reason, Ellis said, could be the public’s knowledge about steroids wasn’t close to what’s out there now. “It’s like the difference between a smoker in the 1960s and the knowledge there is now,” he said.
South Carolina’s athletic department tightened up its drug testing policies and became a model for other schools. “It allowed us to create a very strong wellness program,” Tharp said.


Woods is proud of where South Carolina has gone in the two decades since. “The environment changed a lot,” he said. “Really happy a lot of that happened when we were there.”
Chaikin, now 40, says he’s physically fine. He went to graduate school for a time, eventually settling into the family business. He’s been married 10 years and has two sons, ages 9 and 7. “My older boy’s playing football,” he says.
From time to time, Chaikin hears from old teammates or college friends, some even trying to get him to a game at Williams-Brice Stadium. “I’m not sure how people feel, and I don’t want to spend a game hearing from fans who aren’t too thrilled about what happened,” he said.
 
I will say this, he sure stays out of the spot light, and seems to have moved on with his life. Last major article is from 2005.

I don't think he will be at a game any time soon.
 
I’m all for “ethics” except for when no one else has to do it. Someone just said we aren’t a blue blood and never would be, well all the blue bloods were doing the same for sure, especially Lou Holtz’s ND team that year. Little ole SC with their 2nd Top 10 in 4 years is now the face of evil steroids in College Foosball. GTFOH. The second Top 10 ranking was probably a bigger issue. Chaikin was probably paid off by some Tater Booster. They have proven time and time again to be scandalous.

And yes, it undoubtedly had to hurt, and probably hastened what was inevitable for Joe.
 
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I can remember Chaikin coming off the field at halhtime with helmet in hand. His face was always as red as a beet.

Chaikin entered USC in 1983. He is now approx. 56 yrs. old.

Whatever happened, it is best forgotten. Few care if he ever returns to WB.
 
Seeing the passing of Joe Lee Dunn, I started reading about some of the old Morrison Day as Dunn was one of the guys Joe played racquet ball with the day he died. Of course it’s hard to read about Morrison without reading about the Steroid Scandal.

My question is, what are the fans thoughts on former DL Tommy Chaikin who is responsible for going to Sports Illustrated and contributing to the article being written. I know he accused many, Including Todd Ellis, of asking for steroids. Ellis seemed frustrated with Chaikin, saying the team felt betrayed by him as he should’ve come to the team if he had issues rather than going to the media. Of course all deny Chaikin’s accusations.

It’s crazy reading about him having the barrel of a gun on his chin in The Roost the night before the 1987 Clemson - Carolina game. He eventually let his dad come get him and he missed the game as they flew to Washington DC to get him some help. He said former teammates have reached out from time to time, even inviting him to come to a game at Williams-Brice…but at the time (around 2005) he wasn’t sure what the fan response would be.

I do wonder what the response would be…
I don't think it would be a positive experience for Tommy or the USC faithful.
 
I’m all for “ethics” except for when no one else has to do it. Someone just said we aren’t a blue blood and never would be, well all the blue bloods were doing the same for sure, especially Lou Holtz’s ND team that year. Little ole SC with their 2nd Top 10 in 4 years is now the face of evil steroids in College Foosball. GTFOH. The second Top 10 ranking was probably a bigger issue. Chaikin was probably paid off by some Tater Booster. They have proven time and time again to be scandalous.

And yes, it undoubtedly had to hurt, and probably hastened what was inevitable for Joe.
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I have spoken to a couple of gentlemen I know very well, and they were both big recruits out of the state of NC in late 70s to mid 80s. One ended up at Clemson and one at UNC.
The things they will tell you that ACC schools were doing then will make a grown man blush...while they were still in HS and of course once they got on campus. Steroids were as commonplace as alcohol on most sports teams. So, I can't imagine what the biggest programs (like) Miami, Oklahoma, Texas, ND, USC , Penn State, Michigan (etc) were doing at those same times.
I've written on here before about the Big Ten media bias and their agents. I don't think it was a Tater....it was Big Ten Rick Telander out of Chicago.....anything to draw attention away from ND and the Big Ten. They're mafia-esque in their dealings and approach to college football the last 40-45 years.
 
A very difficult time for many and I am thankful that Sparky did come in and worked to clean it up ... though it did not show up on the scoreboard, it likely saved lives and also set many on the right track for the future. I, for one, would welcome him back ... it sounds as if he is truly repentant and remorseful .. I am very happy for that.

Thank you for sharing ... life is good - Peace!
 
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I remember his stating in the article that Todd Ellis asked him about steroids ,but he did not state that Todd asked him for steroids.
Seeing the passing of Joe Lee Dunn, I started reading about some of the old Morrison Day as Dunn was one of the guys Joe played racquet ball with the day he died. Of course it’s hard to read about Morrison without reading about the Steroid Scandal.

My question is, what are the fans thoughts on former DL Tommy Chaikin who is responsible for going to Sports Illustrated and contributing to the article being written. I know he accused many, Including Todd Ellis, of asking for steroids. Ellis seemed frustrated with Chaikin, saying the team felt betrayed by him as he should’ve come to the team if he had issues rather than going to the media. Of course all deny Chaikin’s accusations.

It’s crazy reading about him having the barrel of a gun on his chin in The Roost the night before the 1987 Clemson - Carolina game. He eventually let his dad come get him and he missed the game as they flew to Washington DC to get him some help. He said former teammates have reached out from time to time, even inviting him to come to a game at Williams-Brice…but at the time (around 2005) he wasn’t sure what the fan response would be.

I do wonder what the response would be…
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Think so. Long time. GT fans were very respectful as we walked out. We didn’t know why they weren’t raising more hell.
Convinced my not very interested brother in law to make the trip. Needless to say he never made another one. Man, that was a dissapointing collapse. We were 6-0 and eighth ranked. They had lost 15 straight against division 1a teams.
 
Shockingly awful...Day game. That very night, Ellis and some others got pinched in Five Points for D&D. The Morrison era started to unravel along in there.

That game was a stunner. The team rebounded the following week and beat NC State. The following week the Gamecocks were #15 and played #5 FSU at home and was another disaster losing 59-0. That was also the year they ended the season with a loss to Indiana in the Liberty Bowl.....which is to this day the coldest college game I have ever been to.
 
That game was a stunner. The team rebounded the following week and beat NC State. The following week the Gamecocks were #15 and played #5 FSU at home and was another disaster losing 59-0. That was also the year they ended the season with a loss to Indiana in the Liberty Bowl.....which is to this day the coldest college game I have ever been to.
Every loss we took that year - don't forget the one to UPC - was by double digits. Something was wrong, seriously wrong. My impression was that the Morrison era was definitely waning and probably ending. Better teams had caught up with the Joe Lee Dunn defense anyway - any that had a quarterback who could hit a "hot" receiver. Remember Tommy Hodson in the Gator Bowl the previous year? He gutted us like fish when we blitzed.
 
Dude tried to burn the entire program down. The worst were the attacks on teammates. Should never be welcomed back. Ain't nothing for him here.
 
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By PETE IACOBELLI / Associated Press
Posted Aug 27, 2005 at 4:01 AM
Long before Jose Canseco’s tell-all book or the televised congressional hearings, the spotlight on steroid abuse in sports centered on South Carolina’s football team and the frightening tale of former defensive lineman Tommy Chaikin.
In 1988, when few people could pronounce “stanozolol” let alone understand its effects, Chaikin wrote in “Sports Illustrated” of routine and rampant steroid use, unexpected rage and his near-suicide the night before the Clemson game.
Chaikin co-wrote the piece, “The Nightmare of Steroids,” with Rick Telander and claimed South Carolina coaches encouraged steroid use to improve performance. Chaikin, with the Gamecocks from 1983 to 1987, said about half the 1986 club used steroids.
“I don’t judge. I’m not an expert,” Chaikin told The Associated Press by phone Wednesday from his Maryland home.
“I used them. If I had to do it over again, I wouldn’t have done them.”
Time also has mellowed Chaikin’s views about telling his story to the nation. “I did it,” he said. “But I was young and didn’t understand the ramifications of opening my mouth to the press.”
Ex-sports information director Kerry Tharp recalled receiving an advance copy of the story and heading to the office of the late coach Joe Morrison.
“Coach, you need to read this,” Tharp told Morrison.
“He looked at the first couple of pages, but I really can’t say what he said” because of Morrison’s stark, angry language, Tharp remembered.


Steroids have become the “oh no” buzzword of American sports. Any change in an athlete’s appearance or performance leads to whispers that he’s “on the juice.” Baseball fans of all ages tuned in to watch Canseco, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa testify as a congressional panel tried to get to the bottom of steroid use in baseball.
A scandal such as Chaikin alleged likely would send a college program into a tailspin today, but 20 years ago, few outside the locker room or the gym knew what steroids could do or the toll they could take.
“It was common knowledge that we were using the stuff. I had bottles of juice all over the place. ... Coaches would walk in and see the stuff, but nobody gave a damn,” Chaikin wrote.
The problems Chaikin had were evident in his article’s first few lines. He describes sitting in The Roost, South Carolina’s athletic dorm at the time, the day before playing Clemson in 1987 with the barrel of a .357-caliber Magnum “pressed under my chin.”
“A .357 is a man’s gun, and I knew what it would do to me,” the story said. “My finger twitched on the trigger.”
Chaikin wrote that he eventually let his father come in to his room and the two flew to a hospital in Washington, D.C., missing the Clemson game. He had rarely surfaced publicly since then.
“Once in a while people try and track me down,” Chaikin says now. “I guess I’ve been reluctant to talk about it.”


As for nearly killing himself in a dorm room, “I was pretty beat up. But that’s a big step to take,” he says. “I don’t know how close I was to that.”
However, Chaikin’s accusations appeared to negatively affect the Gamecocks.
The 1988 team opened 6-0 but lost four of their final six games -- most of those defeats coming after Chaikin’s charges.
South Carolina assistants Jim Washburn, Keith Kephart and Tom Kurucz pleaded guilty in federal court to misdemeanors involving steroids.
Leaders in the athletic department had to deal with increased athlete drug testing and harsher outside scrutiny.
“It was a scary time,” said Sparky Woods, who took over as South Carolina’s head coach after Morrison’s death in 1989.
Washburn, sentenced to three months in a halfway house in 1989, had little interest in reliving his South Carolina days. “That’s about the last thing I want to talk about,” said Washburn, an assistant with the NFL’s Tennessee Titans.


Todd Ellis, then the team’s star quarterback and now its radio announcer, said Chaikin’s story affected players who wondered how someone who shared their world would turn on them.
“No question there was betrayal, hurt and surprise,” said Ellis, an attorney. “If he had problems, he should’ve come to the team and talked instead of bringing in third parties. I’m not sure what the gain was for Tommy Chaikin. ... Nobody understood.”
In fact, Chaikin’s story said Ellis asked to get steroids. Ellis denied it then and now. “The alleged stories were blown well out of proportion from what I know,” he said.
Tharp recalled Chaikin as “kind of quiet, someone who flew under the radar.”
“Looking back on it, though, you could see where people are probably thinking these guys did have some big weight gains,” Tharp said.
For a while after Chaikin’s article, players forged an “us against them” bond to deal with the daily headlines and TV cameras. “It could be pretty brutal,” Ellis said. “We were very passionate. We had to circle up and come together.”
Tharp said the negative publicity was overwhelming. “It was a very disappointing time,” he said. “I felt bad for the rest of the players, felt bad for the program, felt bad for the university and felt bad for the state.”


The school escaped serious NCAA sanctions despite the steroid problems and the federal court cases, but it took time to wash away the stain of Chaikin’s words.
Other recruiters would paint the Gamecocks as a drug-using school that broke rules. And the new staff had to deal with the lax attitudes about drinking and drug use by players they didn’t recruit. “They kind of brought me in to clean up Tombstone,” Woods said. “I did what they mandated me to do.”
Still, given the serious allegations, other issues soon swept past steroid worries for South Carolina.
Morrison died unexpectedly in the winter of 1989. The biggest issues of the next two seasons were the school turning down bowl bids because of conflicts with final exams, something Woods regrets to this day.
By the time South Carolina was accepted in the Southeastern Conference for the 1992 season, Chaikin’s story was a little-discussed matter among fans, players and the team.
The reason, Ellis said, could be the public’s knowledge about steroids wasn’t close to what’s out there now. “It’s like the difference between a smoker in the 1960s and the knowledge there is now,” he said.
South Carolina’s athletic department tightened up its drug testing policies and became a model for other schools. “It allowed us to create a very strong wellness program,” Tharp said.


Woods is proud of where South Carolina has gone in the two decades since. “The environment changed a lot,” he said. “Really happy a lot of that happened when we were there.”
Chaikin, now 40, says he’s physically fine. He went to graduate school for a time, eventually settling into the family business. He’s been married 10 years and has two sons, ages 9 and 7. “My older boy’s playing football,” he says.
From time to time, Chaikin hears from old teammates or college friends, some even trying to get him to a game at Williams-Brice Stadium. “I’m not sure how people feel, and I don’t want to spend a game hearing from fans who aren’t too thrilled about what happened,” he said.

Please forgive me. I have not had the time to read your post nor, refresh myself on the Tommy Chaikin article. But, I will definitely familiarize myself with both. I only wish to comment on my own, recent personal experience with steroids about 4-5 months ago.

Please don't laugh. This was my first experience, ever, with any steroids. Perhaps, many of you have had the experience but, not I. I hurt my shoulder playing with my 100 lbs dawg. I am 74 years old. Basically a 50+ year marijuana smoker. The Dr prescribed the 'Steroid Pack'. Ya know, the 6-5-4-3-2-1 plan which apparently everyone but me, knew about. I FELT 40 YEARS YOUNGER. Not only was my shoulder pain gone but, every single ache & pain I had, disappeared. I WANTED TO WORK OUT!!! I WANTED TO PUMP IRON. I WAS STUD AGAIN!!! I walked with my chest pumped out that week. I could understand that, I wanted MORE!.

My 6 days were wonderful but, at least, I was aware of the liver/long term use damage that could occur. And yet, ... I still asked my physician for a refill. Of course he declined.

I understand the true medical benefits of steroids. I now can also see that they can grab your soul, in a heartbeat. A HEARTBEAT!!!

Back in the early 80's, I don't believe the dangers, addictions and attractions of steroids were fully understood. All I know is that my one week experience was wonderful and I, while not condoning the use in the 80's, can certainly understand the ease of abuse.

Look, I went to college, I have 'experimented' and 'experienced'. I enjoy a 'Buzz'. I WILL NOT DRINK AND DRIVE under any circumstances. Steroids are a totally different thing. It's not a high. You just feel better, feel stronger, feel younger, feel alive again ... while it's shrinking your testicles, popping out boils and pimples over your body, loosening your teeth and destroying the function of your liver. OH! don't worry about your balls shrinking, you won't have any interest in sex anymore. Just ask our friend Mark McGwire.

To make a Long Story short ( I know, too late!). The point is, if Tommy Chaikin spilled the beans ..........

Then he did the right thing
 
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The following week the Gamecocks were #15 and played #5 FSU at home and was another disaster losing 59-0.

I was at that game. Went out to IHOP afterwards when there was one down on Devine St. Todd Ellis was sitting in there with what I guess was his girlfriend and his family. He looked rough.
 
I was at that game. Went out to IHOP afterwards when there was one down on Devine St. Todd Ellis was sitting in there with what I guess was his girlfriend and his family. He looked rough.
That was a terrible night. The evening following the Georgia Tech game was a terrible night. The evening following the UPC game was a terrible night. The night of the bowl game was a terrible night. We were the worst eight-win team in the history of college football. Something was wrong - seriously wrong. Probably more than one thing was wrong.
 
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