Lost to a team from a country with a smaller population than the state of Georgia. The era of dominance is officially over. Perhaps more focus on playing the game and less on outside bs next time. At the end of the day its all about winning.
USWNT Goes Down
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I don't follow them. Does this mean they are done?
Nevermind... just heard it was the earliest a USNWT has been eliminated
Nevermind... just heard it was the earliest a USNWT has been eliminated
Since they have some time on their hands now, I look forward to seeing all the REAL actions they take to fight against the racial injustice and police violence they felt so passionately about when they were virtue signaling during the National Anthem.
For the folks that don't know and think this is somehow linked, the women's national team won the World Cup in 2019- and some of the members were kneeling and vocally protesting various issues they are concerned about then too - just like now.
The reasons for losing now have nothing to do with some players political positions.
The reasons have a lot to do with some ongoing tactical coaching decisions by Vlatko Andonovski
Just like in the NFL, when things don't go well, the decisions by the head coach get questioned- sometimes unfairly- but something quite fairly. That's been there case here for awhile. For those that follow this sport- and I barely do myself- this is not a new issues and has been going on for some time.
The reasons for losing now have nothing to do with some players political positions.
The reasons have a lot to do with some ongoing tactical coaching decisions by Vlatko Andonovski
Just like in the NFL, when things don't go well, the decisions by the head coach get questioned- sometimes unfairly- but something quite fairly. That's been there case here for awhile. For those that follow this sport- and I barely do myself- this is not a new issues and has been going on for some time.
the opinions of outspoken, has-been back-ups had a major role in destroying team chemistry.
They weren't good enough, plain and simple. We have national teams that are more than happy to stand for the National Anthem at international events (Hockey, Baseball) and they routinely lose. It happens. Sometimes, it's not about your politics.
I'm really glad they lost. They weren't there to represent our country. They were there to represent themselves and their own personal grievances. Glad they won't be allowed to continue promoting their personal propaganda on a larger stage under the guise of representing America.
It’s bad when your entire Nation doesn’t have your back. But, they made that bed.
It was a transition team with added political pressure brought on by the usual suspects. Lavelle and Morgan aren't at their best and are unfortunately getting older. Rapinoe just caused way more than the team needed. No mid field and the strikers of Smith and Rodman didn't know what to do with the ball other than try to 1v1 and score. So it was a young inexperienced group playing with older team mates and a political hag. They need to scrap all older players and the coach and start over. I think Smith and Rodman will be good. I think Horan is young enough to stick around. I remember where I was when they won the first WC that started this streak. back then the biggest issue was Chastain removing her jersey. Teams win games, not individuals with ideals.
Once again - This team has won a TON of games.
All teams have individuals with various ideals- beliefs, positions, values- and plenty talk about them and make them known.
And some back it up by winning, which is all anybody cares about. There are enough talking head no nothings on 24 hour cable news (insert your least favorite channel here). I don't need to hear it from sports no nothings. Play the damn game and win.
Or as Herb Brooks put it. "The name on the front of your jersey is a hell of a lot more important than the one on your back."
Some do - some don't
This team won a lot of games, as I mentioned.
But either way, teams are made up of human beings with values and various beliefs. At the end of the day, they have to live with themselves and that's more important than how other people view them.
I have no issue hearing from any athlete and their views. If I like the team, I'll support them even if I disagree with everything they say.
What would make you like a team that you totally disagree with?? Because they have cool unis? Because they are hot? Seems like an odd thing to say.
It's not add at all. It's completely normal.
What's odd is not liking a team because of what some of the players think or do, or their opinions. That's odd- because most of the time a team has tons of varied opinions and anyone watching will find plenty of team members that have totally different values and opinions of the person watching.
I also don't automatically like athletes- teams/singers, actors, etc that agree with me. If I don't think they are that talented, or I don't like their song, I'm not going to buy it because I agree with them. To like them because they have the same opinion I do would be odd to me.
I don't watch teams because I agree with their political stances or social stances. I don't avoid watching them or liking them because of them either.
I don't make decisions on songs I like based on the political views of the singer - or their social views- or their views on sports teams or their favorite foods. If I like a song enough, I'll listen to it and buy it.
As I mentioned earlier. I have never agreed with anything actor James Woods has said. I find him arrogant, often extremely vulgar and a bit of a mess. But I love his acting talent and I catch almost every movie he's in because he's a terrific talent. I don't avoid his movies because of his views or even his personal style.
I watch teams because I enjoy their assembled talent, their ability on the playing field/court, etc, their strategy (offensive or defensive approach), etc.
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I don't like teams because I agree with their poltiical views. My point is I don't give a rats tush what their political view is nor do I want to hear it. Its sports, not political science. Why can't we have one safe haven from the everday BS of politics? Some of these athletes (not all) aren't the brightest bulbs either, let's face it. Agree to disagree, thanks for the thoughts, peace out.
The team we're talking about is not some team in a professional sports league. It's not like it's The Charleston Battery. This is a team that is supposed to be representing the United States of America.
The difference is i don't care if they offer their opinions or not. It doesn't bother me at all in the least.
Everyone seems to have tons of political opinions these days. Social media is full of people offering their political views. Cable news shows and hosts thrive giving their political opinions. Some even have huge online platforms where they offer their political opinions even when they aren't on their cable shows.
The most popular figures online are people that give their political opinions- both right and left. Facebook is full of friends and family giving their political views on everything under the sun. The most popular threads on this very board are political topics, not topics talking about Gamecocks sports. Churches are full of people offering their political views.
So I don't see why sports/athletes should be the one exception. It certainly doesn't bother me to hear them giving political views regardless if I agree or not.
What people say and do makes them the person they are... likable or disliked. How is that odd? If I dislike someone, I'm probably hoping they fail.
Well of course but plenty of the people that folks listen to on cable news and radio talk shows aren't the brightest bulbs either. Some of the hosts can't stay married or manage their own families or lives well but have a lot of very strong views on how other people should be running their lives and families.
But they have massive followings regardless.
Anyway- yes agree to disagree. No problem.
Not liking a person because of their political views and hoping their team fails because of an individual's political views is odd to me.
Why do you hope someone fails just because you don't agree with their political views? That's odd to me.
After all, plenty of people are married to people that have very different political views. Or they have children that have very different political views than they do. Why would they want their spouse or children to fail because they disagree with them?
Sounds very much like a snowflake.
Makes no sense to me.
They don't pick- the national team based on who has the right political views. They select the team from the best players available.
I think a team make up of players that feel free to talk about their political views, or social views, or views on other teams, or fishing or anything else is the best representation of America there could be- especially given that some of the players on some of the teams would be jailed if they expressed a political view or an opinion that their government didn't like.
Our players speaking out on issues they care about- whatever they are- or choosing not to speak out on anything is a wonderful representation of the freedoms they have that many of their opponents do not have.
Towing the line like good robots like some of the other teams have to do doesn't represent any type of freedom or liberty that I know about.
We just have polar opposite views of what freedom really means.
I think you are simplifying it. Having an opposing political view is one thing. Being arrogant and hateful while having an opposing political view is another.
That's subjective though.
One person's "arrogance" is another person's "just being honest"
Tucker Carlson wasn't arrogant with his political views? I mean he insulted people to their face on air if he didn't like what they said and he was the highest rated cable news show in the country when he got fired.
I think Donald Trump is one of the most arrogant humans in the last 30 years. The man specifically brags about how much money he has and how he's always right, and how everything he does is "the best" in public when he's talking about his political opinions. But millions of people worship every word the man says and love and are devoted to his arrogance. Ironically, some of the folks that hate the arrogance of someone that might not stand for the anthem love the arrogance of someone like Trump that brags about himself constantly.
I don't think someone not standing for the anthem is being arrogant or hateful. Not at all. But you might. Subjective.
I think a rock star who shoots a can of beer because a manufacturer supported one transgendered human being is hateful. But you might think it's great and wonderful. Subjective.
I have a family member that is transgendered. I love her to death. She's wonderful. She wouldn't hurt anyone and is a truly humble human being. I also happen to like some of the songs that the aforementioned rock star has made.
Yes. It is subjective. To me, how one acts matters. You can like how they carry themselves or you don't. I don't like how certain players carry themselves. To say its purely because of their politics is shortsighted.
Muhammed Ali was the best at that. Ran his mouth about anything he wanted, but he also won.
Most world leaders are narcissistic egomaniacs whether they wear it on their sleeve or not. Part of Trump's appeal for many is that he comes across as an open book. Better the devil you than the devil you don't. Our country is learning that the hard way right now.
Yes- it's subjective. Glad we agree.
Oh- I hated Donald Trump and hate him for many reasons. One of them was his arrogance- but also his stupidity. It was almost totally because of politics - but not 100%. I hate his moral values. I hate his embrace fake embrace of Christianity to win votes.
But I agree- it's all subjective.
That's why I respect the players that do take positions and aren't afraid to offend people by voicing them. If people are offended by such things, I don't care. That's them being snowflakes in the land of the offended.
Sorry- I don't get offended by what athletes do or say about politics or their opinions.
Millions loved him for it- and millions hated him for it.
He didn't care. Good for him.
Good for any athlete that does the same.
Some are- some aren't.
Part of Trump's appeal to a certain segment of the country was he said a lot of really awful things- things those people want to say and believe. They just know decent human beings don't say those things.
The small bit of hope- consistent public polling shows a majority of Americans wish Trump wouldn't have said a lot of the awful things he did- and does say- even some of his supporters.
You are so emotional. Therapy is available for Low T.
I'd much rather have a President who throws a few zingers vs. one taking bribes via shell companies around the world at our peril.
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With 6 kids, I wish LOW T was my issue.
Something tells me you are extremely disingenuous and a huge hypocrite on here and in real life. LOL
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