Vandy coach Kevin Stallings "I'm going to f---ing kill you."

[world famous 3rd base hecklers]

Some people here give Martin a hard time for his mouth and how he yells at the players...

Well, it happens everywhere... Martin like any other coaches are paid to coach and win games...

I've never had a coach who didn't yell at players and uses profanely.

I bet Gregg Marshall uses profanely.

"I'm going to f---ing kill you."

 

[FORKCOCK]

Our younger generation is extremely fragile. If someone raises their voice to them, someone calls a lawyer.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[usaguy40]

yeah, but thats a little over the top

This post was edited on 2/27 7:31 AM by usaguy40

 

[Ratheolcoach]

I have played sports all my life. I won 2 state championships as a football player in high school and lost a 3rd in OT on a missed FG. NEVER once did a coach at my school use profanity on or off the field while a player was around. If they did it when we weren't there, that's a different story. We were successful, that program was great, and had winning seasons for 20 something years. Had a stretch of 27 years of making the playoffs broken by some potty mouth hotshot who played football for our beloved Gamecocks.
I went to college, a southern baptist affiliated school mind you. Where our coaches used profanity like it was going out of style. Every other word was a f bomb, or GD. It drove me crazy. Players didn't respect them for that, we respected them for their knowledge of the game and ability to motivate us. But, when it came time to talk, like men, about growing up and doing the right thing, it was all about respect, integrity, honor, blah blah blah. I didn't hear any of that, b/c they didn't walk the walk.
Now, as a football coach on the hs level, I don't cuss my players. It doesn't work. Kids don't want to be cussed at, they want to be coached! Cussing is not coaching. It doesn't motivate me, and it doesn't motivate some young man who really wants a role model and someone to push him to be his best.

 

[gamecocktuck]

We all have different opinions, but yes I think it is wrong for a coach to berate a player by saying "I'm going to F******* kill you or you F******** As********. I'm not as bothered by a coach saying to a player, you need to F****** box out or you need to F******* pass the ball. I hope you can see the difference. Just as a side note, I'm not of the younger generation.

 

[tamag]

Great post coach!

 

[Rod Dangerfield]

Originally posted by FORKCOCK:
Our younger generation is extremely fragile. If someone raises their voice to them, someone calls a lawyer.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

this

 

[gamecockjosh]

Originally posted by Ratheolcoach:
I have played sports all my life. I won 2 state championships as a football player in high school and lost a 3rd in OT on a missed FG. NEVER once did a coach at my school use profanity on or off the field while a player was around. If they did it when we weren't there, that's a different story. We were successful, that program was great, and had winning seasons for 20 something years. Had a stretch of 27 years of making the playoffs broken by some potty mouth hotshot who played football for our beloved Gamecocks.
I went to college, a southern baptist affiliated school mind you. Where our coaches used profanity like it was going out of style. Every other word was a f bomb, or GD. It drove me crazy. Players didn't respect them for that, we respected them for their knowledge of the game and ability to motivate us. But, when it came time to talk, like men, about growing up and doing the right thing, it was all about respect, integrity, honor, blah blah blah. I didn't hear any of that, b/c they didn't walk the walk.
Now, as a football coach on the hs level, I don't cuss my players. It doesn't work. Kids don't want to be cussed at, they want to be coached! Cussing is not coaching. It doesn't motivate me, and it doesn't motivate some young man who really wants a role model and someone to push him to be his best.

Great post.

 

[classof95#]

I agree, great post coach!

I'm a Gamecock living in Austin, TX. Listen to sports radio daily. A former TX Longhorn, and Denver Bronco, offensive lineman named Dan Neil is regularly on the radio show. He's very intelligent with a great player's perspective on football. He was part of two super bowl victories. This morning he noted that the best QBs he played with were always calm and in control, and that the entire team fed off of the QB's steadiness. He was talking about TX QB James Brown and also John Elway. I couldn't help but think about coach Martin while hearing this.

Go Gamecocks!

 

[usaguy40]

Originally posted by Ratheolcoach:
I have played sports all my life. I won 2 state championships as a football player in high school and lost a 3rd in OT on a missed FG. NEVER once did a coach at my school use profanity on or off the field while a player was around. If they did it when we weren't there, that's a different story. We were successful, that program was great, and had winning seasons for 20 something years. Had a stretch of 27 years of making the playoffs broken by some potty mouth hotshot who played football for our beloved Gamecocks.
I went to college, a southern baptist affiliated school mind you. Where our coaches used profanity like it was going out of style. Every other word was a f bomb, or GD. It drove me crazy. Players didn't respect them for that, we respected them for their knowledge of the game and ability to motivate us. But, when it came time to talk, like men, about growing up and doing the right thing, it was all about respect, integrity, honor, blah blah blah. I didn't hear any of that, b/c they didn't walk the walk.
Now, as a football coach on the hs level, I don't cuss my players. It doesn't work. Kids don't want to be cussed at, they want to be coached! Cussing is not coaching. It doesn't motivate me, and it doesn't motivate some young man who really wants a role model and someone to push him to be his best.

nicely said

 

[ToddFlanders]

Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:
Some people here give Martin a hard time for his mouth and how he yells at the players...

Well, it happens everywhere... Martin like any other coaches are paid to coach and win games...

I've never had a coach who didn't yell at players and uses profanely.

I bet Gregg Marshall uses profanely.

I'll bet Marshall uses profanity too. But I'll guarantee he never threatens to kill his players.

There's a huge leap from dropping f-bombs and physically threatening a player (anything other than threatening reduced playing time or laps is uncalled for). Stallings basically showed why he's a middle-of-the-road kind of coach. If the only thing you have in your arsenal is to yell that you're going to kill a kid, you're not championship material.

 

[67gamecock]

Why don't more coaches just do their 'rant and rave' routine, BUT leave out the profanity, obscenities, and personal attacks on individual players. Doing so protects the coach, school, and players from humiliating references to the coach's uglier side. If need be, get angry when necessary, but keep that anger under control.

 

[world famous 3rd base hecklers]

Originally posted by ToddFlanders:

Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:
Some people here give Martin a hard time for his mouth and how he yells at the players...

Well, it happens everywhere... Martin like any other coaches are paid to coach and win games...

I've never had a coach who didn't yell at players and uses profanely.

I bet Gregg Marshall uses profanely.

I'll bet Marshall uses profanity too. But I'll guarantee he never threatens to kill his players.

There's a huge leap from dropping f-bombs and physically threatening a player (anything other than threatening reduced playing time or laps is uncalled for). Stallings basically showed why he's a middle-of-the-road kind of coach. If the only thing you have in your arsenal is to yell that you're going to kill a kid, you're not championship material.

I just get tired of people complain about Martin using profanity and saying he's the only coach in the country or in college who uses profanity.

 

[cockydev]

Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:

Originally posted by ToddFlanders:

Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:
Some people here give Martin a hard time for his mouth and how he yells at the players...

Well, it happens everywhere... Martin like any other coaches are paid to coach and win games...

I've never had a coach who didn't yell at players and uses profanely.

I bet Gregg Marshall uses profanely.

I'll bet Marshall uses profanity too. But I'll guarantee he never threatens to kill his players.

There's a huge leap from dropping f-bombs and physically threatening a player (anything other than threatening reduced playing time or laps is uncalled for). Stallings basically showed why he's a middle-of-the-road kind of coach. If the only thing you have in your arsenal is to yell that you're going to kill a kid, you're not championship material.

I just get tired of people complain about Martin using profanity and saying he's the only coach in the country or in college who uses profanity.

Kevin Stallings is an embarrassing fool. He's not the standard we want at our university and I'm surprised Vanderbilt would put up with this.

This is the same coach that alluded to having his players knock Renaldo Balkman's teeth out about 10 years ago.

 

[ToddFlanders]

Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:

Originally posted by ToddFlanders:

Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:
Some people here give Martin a hard time for his mouth and how he yells at the players...

Well, it happens everywhere... Martin like any other coaches are paid to coach and win games...

I've never had a coach who didn't yell at players and uses profanely.

I bet Gregg Marshall uses profanely.

I'll bet Marshall uses profanity too. But I'll guarantee he never threatens to kill his players.

There's a huge leap from dropping f-bombs and physically threatening a player (anything other than threatening reduced playing time or laps is uncalled for). Stallings basically showed why he's a middle-of-the-road kind of coach. If the only thing you have in your arsenal is to yell that you're going to kill a kid, you're not championship material.

I just get tired of people complain about Martin using profanity and saying he's the only coach in the country or in college who uses profanity.

Yea, I don't really have any problem with Frank yelling, and even swearing. Though I think he went overboard in much the same way that Stallings did when he called a player an "a**hole" last season. Yelling is one thing (and I think because of the pace of the game, basketball lends itself to yelling being a part of coaching as coaches try and quickly get a point across), however, personal attacks and threats just show a lack of composure and professionalism.

So many very successful coaches yell and swear, but the really successful ones know where the line is - because eventually there are diminishing returns if you lean on screaming too much.

 

[Cock-Vader]

Originally posted by gamecocktuck:

We all have different opinions, but yes I think it is wrong for a coach to berate a player by saying "I'm going to F******* kill you or you F******** As********. I'm not as bothered by a coach saying to a player, you need to F****** box out or you need to F******* pass the ball. I hope you can see the difference. Just as a side note, I'm not of the younger generation.

This is exactly how I feel.

 

[goldengamecock]

During the Darrin Horn era, I used to yell at me TV and say, "Hey Horn, I'm going to F'n kill you!!!!!"

Not that I would actually kill him. He did kill our program though.

 

[NaturalGC7]

I have a dirty word for Stallings..... TERMINATION!!

 

[coq-au-vandy]

Bad shot selection? Taunting an opponent? Today, we all need to ask this. What would Spock do?

 

[world famous 3rd base hecklers]

Originally posted by coq-au-vandy:
Bad shot selection? Taunting an opponent? Today, we all need to ask this. What would Spock do?

or

 

[world famous 3rd base hecklers]

 

[jimnasium]

Coaching is an emotional job but cussing directly AT a player is a little extreme. I don't approve of foul language period, but some coaches do it without directing it AT a player. The language some coaches use pales to the stuff they hear on TV, at the movies, or on the school yard. Besides, most of us wouldn't even know what the coaches say if the TV camera was not zoomed in on their faces every 3 secs. Coaches are supposed to set examples we all know that but with the pressure some coaches live under we should give them a break unless, as I said, the words are personal. The fans take this subject much more seriously than players do it seems. The game can be played without the occasional dirty words but if your team was undefeated and playing for the National Championship who would really care right? The "I'm going to f'ing kill" you was out of line agreed though. Some teams win games with a coach never saying a word his mother wouldn't want to say but that might have something to do with talent and not language. No team goes on long winning streaks because the coach doesn't cuss if so Bobby Knight would be in the losers hall of fame. Offensive language is offensive language regardless of who uses it and I don't condone it but sometimes we make too much out of it with coaching is involved. As long as there are coaches there will be cussin'.

 

[John Caraway]

Originally posted by coq-au-vandy:
Bad shot selection? Taunting an opponent? Today, we all need to ask this. What would Spock do?

give them a gentle neck massage