We keep losing them...
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except that the rumors don't exist outside FGF
There are rumors ok numerous other boards also. Auburn, Tennessee, and FSU all have raised concerns as well.
Yeah, they do. They're just more predominant here for obvious reasons. But if you go read other schools boards that regularly recruit against Clemson, you will no doubt see them come up regarding certain players. True or not, I don't have a clue...but to pretend that rumors don't exist on other boards is being willfully ignorant.
I'm so tired of know it all Clemson fans on this board!!
A win is a win. Clemson struggled to beat several teams this season, but went on to win the national championship. A single score win counts the same as a double digit win.
sure I know rumors exist everywhere. I guess my post was somewhat sarcastic being this is a rival board. But my point (in my original comment, not this reply to you) is that rumors on fan message boards do not constitute any wrong doing. The NCAA is not scouring msg boards for rumors. And they are not going to investigate based on a fan perception of what they have "heard" is going on.
If there is some real underhanded stuff going on, it will come out. And the NCAA will go straight to the program, ex players, ex coaches, ex recruits etc.
the trolls are out in full force on this thread.
I'm so glad so many of you are here to tell us how everything is perfect at Clemson and Datboy walks on water.
I'm so glad so many of you are here to tell us how everything is perfect at Clemson and Datboy walks on water.
I post on the insider board at the Clemson rivals site quite a bit (as Hopefultiger13), here quite a bit, Shakinthesouthland infrequently, cockytalk infrequently, and here quite a bit.
And yes...message boards are always based in fact. The continual cry of cheating that is tossed about on this board is laughable. News flash...the problem is not your rivals...it's your own program. When you have a problem, you will never fix it by looking outward, but rather inward. I can assure you, if there was any truth to these rumors, the coaches at everyone of these schools would know about it, and they would notify the NCAA immediately. Believe me, the man that texted "Game On" to his players three weeks ago tonight would be all over it, as would the other coaches. And I happily admit, these coaches should be in contact with the NCAA if they have some facts. Given that has not happened, you can be assured there nothing to any of these rumors. The real reason these rumors are started is because the fans of these teams are tired of losing. In the last three meetings versus Clemson, Auburn is 0-3. In the last three meetings versus Clemson, South Carolina is 0-3. FSU is 0-2 in its last two against Clemson and Tennessee lost to Clemson the last time the teams met. 0-9...there is the real reason for rumors. You do nothing more than lose any credibility you have when you make unsubstantiated claims. You are entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts.
Heighten your standards. People like you are why Gamecock sports has sucked forever.
Apologists for bad coaching.
East has been down for a few years, not a single team has stepped up to make a claim. But every team in the East has had a recent coaching change. The 2 longest are Butch Jones at UT and Mark Stoops at UK. Jones is catching some heat, overwhelming favorite to win the East and was damn lucky to be bowl eligible, may not be in 17 and UT fans are running out of patience. UK fans are thrilled to death with Stoops, he has improved recruiting and got them to a bowl, but wasnt able to take advantage of a down east and get to the dome, window won't be open long, may be closing already. USC will be better in 17, we will be a good bit better in 17, who knows about UF, Vandy will put a very good defense on the field, may have the best defensive coach in the conference, Missouri and UT will struggle, both are losing all their bigtime players..
But the SEC was down in general, poor QB play has really hurt the conference, at least 4 true frosh ended up being the starters by the end of the season, and multiple first time starters and it showed. Hurts got a lot of credit at Bama, but his passing is inconsistent at best, great athlete and runner, but his inability to throw downfield allowed Clemson to only really beconcerned with about 10-15 yards of the field vertically. WR screens are only so effective when you don't force the DB to respect the ability to go deep. Clemson is about to find out what its like to start a true frosh at qb again.
SEC might be down a little in 17 as well, but in 18, when the conference has upper classmen playing qb for the majority of the teams we will once again be at the top of the college football world.
Seems pretty accurate
I think that by 2018 the SEC may have another year on top. I also know that there won't be another dynasty stretch like before
There are way too many good coaches and players choosing other conferences
Very reasonable post. We'll see how it goes.
Personally, I think it’s more a function of scheme than talent. Really, when has the SEC ever had a problem attracting top talent? SEC tends to play hellacious defense and more conservative pro style offenses (that are more run heavy than the NFL obviously). There are some exceptions of course (Ole Miss and Texas A&M), but that’s pretty much what the SEC does. As a QB, you just aren’t going to throw for 500+ yards at Bama. Not when you can power run the ball. I think THIS has really lead to some of the top QBs choosing other conferences that are more friendly to dynamic QBs.
I do believe that that is starting to change as teams start to realize that they can’t out play Bama at their own game.
Just agreeing with Drumpyolddawg on SEC QB play. Don’t worry about it man, not that important. Could you post an anti Jew rant for me please? With your avatar it would be awesome!
Glad to see taters still like to make fun of genocides.... keep it going, you're doing great.
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