What prevents USC from setting...

[JKC4USC]

up a scholarship supplement fund to give to our baseball players like Vandy does? Is Vandy the only private school that does this? If yes, it won't be long before other private schools follow suit. I'm sure it has something to do with being a public college as to why USC can't do it. I'm surprised the NCAA allows this because it seems like an extra benefit. It's really time for the NCAA to allow full schollys for baseball. Oh well, I guess we'll wait on teams like Bama, OH St., Texas, and Michigan to complain so the NCAA will get involved.

 

[USCAndy]

Yep, sounds like sour grapes, but it's really unfair what Vandy is allowed to do.

 

[The tigerdoc]

You can't just set up an endowment for baseball players. At Vandy, every student who comes from a family where the income level is below a certain level essentially gets a full ride. I'm not sure if the level is $100,000 or $150,000, but it is something like that. To be able to do this for all students requires a huge endowment. Vandy has an endowment of 4 billion dollars or so. Most public institutions don't have that kind of cash.

 

[USCAndy]

The bottom line is the 11.7 scholarships. The rules should be the same for everybody! Instead, Vandy gets treated differently.

 

[AnCRooster]

Here ya go, break out your wallet:http://www.postandcourier.com/artic...ut-palmetto-state-schools-rank-low-nationally

 

[bashby33]

Vandy is well endowed.

 

[GamecockTripp]

I just don't understand why other private schools don't do it as well.

 

[Cackdiesel]

up a scholarship supplement fund to give to our baseball players like Vandy does? Is Vandy the only private school that does this? If yes, it won't be long before other private schools follow suit. I'm sure it has something to do with being a public college as to why USC can't do it. I'm surprised the NCAA allows this because it seems like an extra benefit. It's really time for the NCAA to allow full schollys for baseball. Oh well, I guess we'll wait on teams like Bama, OH St., Texas, and Michigan to complain so the NCAA will get involved.

It's not the NCAA, it's the federal government - Title 9. We receive federal funds so we have to follow Title 9. Vandy doesn't receive federal funds so they don't have to follow it.

Edit: That's my understandiong, at least.

Edit:2 - ignore this entire post

 

[Cackdiesel]

The bottom line is the 11.7 scholarships. The rules should be the same for everybody! Instead, Vandy gets treated differently.

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[GarnetBlood80]

That's the # of available scholarships in college baseball. (11.7) Not just us.

 

[Cackdiesel]

That's the # of available scholarships in college baseball. (11.7) Not just us.

But how does Vandy get away with having more than that?

 

[USCBatgirl21]

It's really time for the NCAA to allow full schollys for baseball.

That won't happen until the NCAA takes football out of the equation for the way they apply Title IX.

 

[Jonathan Mardukas]

up a scholarship supplement fund to give to our baseball players like Vandy does? Is Vandy the only private school that does this? If yes, it won't be long before other private schools follow suit. I'm sure it has something to do with being a public college as to why USC can't do it. I'm surprised the NCAA allows this because it seems like an extra benefit. It's really time for the NCAA to allow full schollys for baseball. Oh well, I guess we'll wait on teams like Bama, OH St., Texas, and Michigan to complain so the NCAA will get involved.

It's a Title IX issue.

 

[The tigerdoc]

It has nothing to do with Title IX as far as I know. Vandy has 11.7 schollies just like every team. They can give those to players whose family makes more than $100,000 or $150,000 dollars or whatever their financial requirement is for aid. All students whose family falls below that figure get a full ride due to Vandy's huge endowment. Therefore baseball players whose family falls below the income figure can get a free ride, just like any other student admitted to Vandy. They are essentially not on athletic scholarship, they are simply getting the same free ride as other students. At least that is my understanding of the issue.

 

[JKC4USC]

It's a Title IX issue.

Ummm...I'm sorry...what? I wasn't paying attention to what you said.

 

[Prince of Darkness]

It's a Title IX issue.

Jonathan, Just damn...You done went and hijacked a thread.

 

[jonesz21]

What about states like Georgia where lottery money lets instate kids go to UGA for free Do the instate baseball players that get lottery full scholly's count toward the 11??

 

[Cackdiesel]

That won't happen until the NCAA takes football out of the equation for the way they apply Title IX.

It applies to schools that don't have football programs as well. Or maybe the school I'm thinking about that follows that rule does so by choice, even though they don't have a football program.

 

[The tigerdoc]

What about states like Georgia where lottery money lets instate kids go to UGA for free Do the instate baseball players that get lottery full scholly's count toward the 11??

I believe that money which is available to all students at a university does not count as scholarship money. Therefore, lottery money would not count toward the 11.7 in baseball since it is available to all eligible students.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

It applies to schools that don't have football programs as well. Or maybe the school I'm thinking about that follows that rule does so by choice, even though they don't have a football program.

It does apply to all schools, regardless of if there is a football program. That's why it's 11.7 everywhere. It would be "unfair" if one school got to have more baseball schollies because they don't have football, for example CofC. That creates an unfair recruiting advantage.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

What about states like Georgia where lottery money lets instate kids go to UGA for free Do the instate baseball players that get lottery full scholly's count toward the 11??

Non athletic scholarship monies do not count toward the 11.7.

 

[uscg1984]

I guess this thread answers the question I've always had about the service academies and the NCAA rules. Cadets actually get a small stipend while in school. As member institutions of the NCAA, I assumed they got some sort of an exemption, but since the same stipend is given to _every_ cadet, it's not an extra benefit for athletes.

BTW, did we decide if it was OK to boo Navy?

 

[USCBatgirl21]

BTW, did we decide if it was OK to boo Navy?

Not if you're near me or Daddy.

GO NAVY!
Beat Army!