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His discussion of coach firings was all over the place. At one point he mentions ”societal mental illness,” before going to COVID-19 fatigue and ”machines.” But if anyone knows something about “crazy,” it’s Mike.
Well, even though he may have been all over the place with his answer, he nailed it with this one quote - one that is extremely prevalent among the many posters on this site:I guess I fall in the group that thinks Leach is always good for a quote - unless you're looking for anything remotely lucid.
No they wouldn’t have.In today's climate, Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes would have all been fired in the middle of their legendary tenures.
No they wouldn’t have.
No coach with the clout these guys had would meet that fate.Absolutely. They all had a few seasons of being down from previous highs. Schools don't wait now.
No coach with the clout these guys had would meet that fate.
Bowden’s dip was 25 years into his tenure. Paterno’s was 40 years into his tenure.
Of those you listed, only Woody Hayes would have been on the hot seat based upon today's expectations. He was a good, coach, but not on the same level as the others.No they wouldn’t have.
No. Bowden had a bit of a dip in the 80s after he had been there 5 or 6 years. Paterno had some up and down years in the 80s as well after being at PSU for 20 years. In the context of THIS climate, schools don't sit on their laurels and wait on coaches to work things out.
We have posters on this board who gave wanted to fire Beamer since ECUNo they wouldn’t have.
We have posters on this board who gave wanted to fire Beamer since ECU
That is true, but none of those guys ever made $7 million per year, either. I think we've gotten to the point where programs feel like if they pay you tons of money, it means you must win championships. And I think coaches feel like if a program is going to have irrational expectations, then they'd better pay me a ridiculous amount of money from day one, before I win a championship for you. So, it's a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation, but both parties seem equally willing to embrace the current model.In today's climate, Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes would have all been fired in the middle of their legendary tenures.
Do you think Beamer is going to turn into a Bowden or Paterno?
Too early to tell.Do you think Beamer is going to turn into a Bowden or Paterno?
Do you think Beamer is going to turn into a Bowden or Paterno?
LOLOLOL!! That comment there is deep and to the point no doubt!!Everybody wants their team to be a winner. But obviously, that is an impossible outcome. So the insanity will be sustained.
Nothin' personal here, but I much prefer a Saban as opposed to the two mentioned. I mean Saban's successes and reputation far exceeds those two IMHO.Who knows? Nobody knew they would be “Bowden and Paterno” until they were.
It's pretty obvious, but I hope he proves me wrong.Do you already know he won't?
Nothin' personal here, but I much prefer a Saban as opposed to the two mentioned. I mean Saban's successes and reputation far exceeds those two IMHO.
Just sayin'. Its All Good!
Yeah Mike Leach is crazy, crazy like a coked up fox that dabbles in piracyHis discussion of coach firings was all over the place. At one point he mentions ”societal mental illness,” before going to COVID-19 fatigue and ”machines.” But if anyone knows something about “crazy,” it’s Mike.
Gibberish.
Most coaches get fired because they're overpaid and underperforming employees. See Muschamp. This ain't the 4H Club. If you get paid millions and ask for millions in facilities, you better put a good product on the field.
For sure. We paid Muschamp 17k a day, seven days a week. We also built a 50 million operations building because he said it was needed to recruit. It hasn't helped one bit. The arms race is crazy.IMO, Leach is 100% correct and so are you.
Expectations have become ridiculous and a coach's pay and contract terms have as well.
The obsession with televised sports in this country is a wander to behold.
I know! A pretty deep concept there on my part no doubt!! I mean, oh the irony!! And I do mean like wrinkly irony, as opposed to that good 'ol flat-out ironed irony!!Haha. That’s a very brave stance of yours. You’d rather have the best college coach of all time than someone who is not the best college coach of all time? Got it.
You are a true loyal sports fan of South Carolina. To stick it out and stay engaged on a chat board for the next few years when you already know the outcome is awesome.It's pretty obvious, but I hope he proves me wrong.