With the 'winner' in Columbia finishing 9-3.
Met this morning with a casual friend, long-time 'big-time' banker, lifelong Clemson fan and VERY LARGE personal Tiger supporter to discuss a few REO opportunities they're stuck with (still way too rich for my blood) so, after the 15-minutes of potential (though never probable - I suspected they haven't yet gagged on this stuff quite long enough 'fore I even got there) 'business' we talked for about 40-minutes 'bout football.
HE AIN'T BUYING THE KOOL-AID.
Thinks they'll get by Louisville OK ("they're unranked and pretty depleted from last year") but LOSE their 'by-then' 9/10 ranking after starting out 3-0 when they get whacked by Notre Dame at home (to the chagrin of 'this year's' crop of starry-eyed tigerpaw followers).
He thinks MANY Clemson fans will go into absolute 'panic' mode when GA Tech also beats 'em at home the following week (dropping 'em completely OUT of the Top 25 at 3-2) but thinks things settle down after that and Clemson wins-out ('cept for FL State) coming into Williams-Brice 8-3 to face the Gamecocks climbing back to be ranked somewhere in the 20's.
He thinks we lose to UGA, Mizzou and aTm all on the road but beat UT traveling and handle LSU at home to also come into late November's game against Clemson 8-3 ranked anywhere from 16 to 22 depending on the records of the guys who beat us.
He said if Watson's STILL playing the line should be around +/- 3 one way or the other, but if Watson's out he thinks 'Carolina will be favored by at least 7 at home.
Winner ends up 9-3 ranked somewhere between 15-20 while the loser drops to 8-4 and is lucky to stay in the Top 25.
If WE win he thinks we go 'Outback Bowl' and beat whomever to finish 10-3, if not, Liberty Bowl to 'maybe' win 9 depending on how hard the players put out.
If Clemson wins he thinks they go Gator and maybe/maybe not win 10 ... if not also Liberty where he thinks they get SMACKED to finish 8-5.
He says if the Gamecocks beat Clemson AGAIN in 2015 it won't be 'the end' for Dabo (unless they come into the game 6-5 or some such) BUT regardless of how it plays out IF 'Carolina starts another "winning streak" that streak will NOT get past TWO (2015/2016) before Dabo's offered the job of 'recruiting coordinator' IF he stays at all.
Old guy who still prefers ties and he sure seemed to know his football. When I told him so he laughed and said from where he sits he's heard a LOT of BS in his day and 'this year' AIN'T gonna' be our 'glory year'. He believes if the stars stay aligned 2017 (schedule-wise and personnel-wise) could be Clemson's shot at something big, but his opinion of 2015? Good, always competitive, not GREAT.
He was CERTAIN the HBC will have a 'better' year in 2015 than last year, but he thinks we're a year away (2016) 'schedule-wise' to have a real shot ... first needing to get those teams we MUST beat in our own house.
It's a real pleasure to talk with people who actually WENT to Clemson. They do get an excellent education.
I had to smile when we walked out of the bank together and he climbed up into that black 4-door Ford F-150 with its painted tiger paw pewter insert jammed into that trailer hitch. Old guy with his banker-tie has style.
And pretty good sense.
Met this morning with a casual friend, long-time 'big-time' banker, lifelong Clemson fan and VERY LARGE personal Tiger supporter to discuss a few REO opportunities they're stuck with (still way too rich for my blood) so, after the 15-minutes of potential (though never probable - I suspected they haven't yet gagged on this stuff quite long enough 'fore I even got there) 'business' we talked for about 40-minutes 'bout football.
HE AIN'T BUYING THE KOOL-AID.
Thinks they'll get by Louisville OK ("they're unranked and pretty depleted from last year") but LOSE their 'by-then' 9/10 ranking after starting out 3-0 when they get whacked by Notre Dame at home (to the chagrin of 'this year's' crop of starry-eyed tigerpaw followers).
He thinks MANY Clemson fans will go into absolute 'panic' mode when GA Tech also beats 'em at home the following week (dropping 'em completely OUT of the Top 25 at 3-2) but thinks things settle down after that and Clemson wins-out ('cept for FL State) coming into Williams-Brice 8-3 to face the Gamecocks climbing back to be ranked somewhere in the 20's.
He thinks we lose to UGA, Mizzou and aTm all on the road but beat UT traveling and handle LSU at home to also come into late November's game against Clemson 8-3 ranked anywhere from 16 to 22 depending on the records of the guys who beat us.
He said if Watson's STILL playing the line should be around +/- 3 one way or the other, but if Watson's out he thinks 'Carolina will be favored by at least 7 at home.
Winner ends up 9-3 ranked somewhere between 15-20 while the loser drops to 8-4 and is lucky to stay in the Top 25.
If WE win he thinks we go 'Outback Bowl' and beat whomever to finish 10-3, if not, Liberty Bowl to 'maybe' win 9 depending on how hard the players put out.
If Clemson wins he thinks they go Gator and maybe/maybe not win 10 ... if not also Liberty where he thinks they get SMACKED to finish 8-5.
He says if the Gamecocks beat Clemson AGAIN in 2015 it won't be 'the end' for Dabo (unless they come into the game 6-5 or some such) BUT regardless of how it plays out IF 'Carolina starts another "winning streak" that streak will NOT get past TWO (2015/2016) before Dabo's offered the job of 'recruiting coordinator' IF he stays at all.
Old guy who still prefers ties and he sure seemed to know his football. When I told him so he laughed and said from where he sits he's heard a LOT of BS in his day and 'this year' AIN'T gonna' be our 'glory year'. He believes if the stars stay aligned 2017 (schedule-wise and personnel-wise) could be Clemson's shot at something big, but his opinion of 2015? Good, always competitive, not GREAT.
He was CERTAIN the HBC will have a 'better' year in 2015 than last year, but he thinks we're a year away (2016) 'schedule-wise' to have a real shot ... first needing to get those teams we MUST beat in our own house.
It's a real pleasure to talk with people who actually WENT to Clemson. They do get an excellent education.
I had to smile when we walked out of the bank together and he climbed up into that black 4-door Ford F-150 with its painted tiger paw pewter insert jammed into that trailer hitch. Old guy with his banker-tie has style.
And pretty good sense.
