Are we gonna change mascot name from "Gamecocks"?

[F-86F]

Well, the University claims to have taken their mascot name from Sumter, so I guess the University is confused.

You are supporting your argument without a name. Who at the “University” claims what you are arguing and how long ago did someone at the “University” begin claiming the mascot is named after Thomas Sumter?

 

[StillCluckin]

This is thing. When you simply take the same logic and apply it something that people care about, they act gobsmacked. They say things like "The OP makes the quantum leap that if a building has been considered for a name change, then the team mascot may fall under the same guidelines, and then suggests that option should be either all or nothing."

Well, why SHOULDN'T it be all or nothing? Why SHOULDN'T the rationale be applied across the board?

If it were truly applied across the board our the current Vice President of our Country would resign as her ancestors were documented slave traders. Do I expect or want this to happen ?....I really don't give two hoots nor do I care to dig into every nook and cranny of our existence find something that might be considered controversial....give it a rest.

 

[The Coup Nazi]

What does Trump have to do with this ?

Not a damn thing. He just has to still blame Trump for something and this is the best he could do.

 

[hahnenkampf]

What does Trump have to do with this ?

It appears that in most liberal skulls anyone that supports Trump is a racist. Typical Democrat playbook technique.

 

[CockofEarle]

Based on the recent recommendation to rename some facilities, it seems this has to be up for discussion. If we want to change the name of a building or a tree because someone was racist, then the same logic HAS to be applied to the most well-known identifier of the University, right?

We were named "Gamecocks" after Thomas Sumter. He was a proponent of slavery.

"In 1781 General Thomas Sumter offered one slave to each white citizen who joined as a private soldier for ten months and as many as three grown and one small slave to those who joined as colonels. Sumter did not have these slaves at the time he made this promise. He was banking on slaves he hoped would be seized from Loyalists during future campaigns. General Andrew Pickens also adopted this recruiting incentive, which became known as 'Sumter’s law,'"

African Americans in the Revolutionary War - South Carolina Encyclopedia

African Americans contributed to both the American and British causes during the Revolutionary War as laborers, soldiers, sailors, guides, teamsters, cooks, and spies. While it is impossible to know the exact number, it has been traditionally accepted that as many as five thousand African...

www.scencyclopedia.org

You can't draw arbitrary lines in the sand. If you start changing some names, you have to change them all. Or change none and just recognize that times were different and learn from our history.

Need to change state name too🤣

 

[stu1cocks]

Well heck, I just hope the University of South Carolina Football team or whatever they come to be called wins more football games...

 

[GarnetBeamer]

If it were truly applied across the board our the current Vice President of our Country would resign as her ancestors were documented slave traders. Do I expect or want this to happen ?....I really don't give two hoots nor do I care to dig into every nook and cranny of our existence find something that might be considered controversial....give it a rest.

Well, that’s precisely what’s happening. They’re looking to change the names (or at least ceremonially recommending it) of buildings named after anyone even tangentially connected to some level of racism or perceived racism.

And these things aren’t even overtly obvious. We’re not talking about a building named after James Earl Ray.

 

[Cocky 45]

The Gamecock was nearly the national bird of the USA, but then again those same ppl would argue the US is racist because of slavery so that doesn't help 🙁

 

[uscg1984]

Facts always matter. The problem most have with this whole issue is that it brings to the forebear a lot of historical facts that people never learned or have wanted to forget. Good and bad, it is our history.

Of course, I hope you know I was being facetious - facts do always matter. But facts are nothing without context and perspective. If you take a person completely ignorant of history (or any other subject, for that matter) and feed him a few facts, you can get him to draw almost any conclusion.

 

[Six Million Dollar Man]

Get rid of "Gamecock" and I'm out.

 

[section2cock]

In a hundred years each of us will have our last named cancelled from history because we ate meat, drove a gas powered car, supported a political party (any !) or attended a church. Get used to it.

 

[Lurker123]

I'm reminded of southern cal's horse that was renamed because it was spelled close to the name of Lee's horse.

The Sumter connection is stronger than that, even if it's not officially the source.

 

[mannblack]

Based on the recent recommendation to rename some facilities, it seems this has to be up for discussion. If we want to change the name of a building or a tree because someone was racist, then the same logic HAS to be applied to the most well-known identifier of the University, right?

We were named "Gamecocks" after Thomas Sumter. He was a proponent of slavery.

"In 1781 General Thomas Sumter offered one slave to each white citizen who joined as a private soldier for ten months and as many as three grown and one small slave to those who joined as colonels. Sumter did not have these slaves at the time he made this promise. He was banking on slaves he hoped would be seized from Loyalists during future campaigns. General Andrew Pickens also adopted this recruiting incentive, which became known as 'Sumter’s law,'"

African Americans in the Revolutionary War - South Carolina Encyclopedia

African Americans contributed to both the American and British causes during the Revolutionary War as laborers, soldiers, sailors, guides, teamsters, cooks, and spies. While it is impossible to know the exact number, it has been traditionally accepted that as many as five thousand African...

www.scencyclopedia.org

You can't draw arbitrary lines in the sand. If you start changing some names, you have to change them all. Or change none and just recognize that times were different and learn from our history.

Probably be one of Tanners last accomplishments

 

[cocean]

We should change it to the rudi poo's

 

[Bubbaglide]

Carolina Jabronies

 

[CockySC01]

Could you imagine if we were renamed The Carolina Comets? Changing our name to anything would pretty much make the end of sports for me.
At that point we may as well erect a giant tomb stone in the middle of campus that says RIP Gamecock Sports 1801-2021

 

[ansoncock]

Could you imagine if we were renamed The Carolina Comets? Changing our name to anything would pretty much make the end of sports for me.
At that point we may as well erect a giant tomb stone in the middle of campus that says RIP Gamecock Sports 1801-2021

Yes, in that case a tombstone would be appropriate.

 

[GamecockWarrior]

What a stupid thread.

 

[Legendary Cock]

OP just loves name changes, he is on #4 in about a year.

I was wondering the same. What other names do you suspect?

 

[FORKCOCK]

The logic is no where near 100% identical, most students probably don't even know who Thomas Sumter was, our mascot name can stand alone without his affiliation anyway. We are not Thomas Sumter U.

I'd bet most of our students have never hear of Omaha Beach. Doubt seriously if they've ever even heard if Thomas Sumter.

 

[GCMD2]

Based on the recent recommendation to rename some facilities, it seems this has to be up for discussion. If we want to change the name of a building or a tree because someone was racist, then the same logic HAS to be applied to the most well-known identifier of the University, right?

We were named "Gamecocks" after Thomas Sumter. He was a proponent of slavery.

"In 1781 General Thomas Sumter offered one slave to each white citizen who joined as a private soldier for ten months and as many as three grown and one small slave to those who joined as colonels. Sumter did not have these slaves at the time he made this promise. He was banking on slaves he hoped would be seized from Loyalists during future campaigns. General Andrew Pickens also adopted this recruiting incentive, which became known as 'Sumter’s law,'"

African Americans in the Revolutionary War - South Carolina Encyclopedia

African Americans contributed to both the American and British causes during the Revolutionary War as laborers, soldiers, sailors, guides, teamsters, cooks, and spies. While it is impossible to know the exact number, it has been traditionally accepted that as many as five thousand African...

www.scencyclopedia.org

You can't draw arbitrary lines in the sand. If you start changing some names, you have to change them all. Or change none and just recognize that times were different and learn from our history.

After guys had a problem with someone who was involved with animal cruelty on campus today (8/9), I thought I'd remind people that our Mascot is named after Cock Fighting Chickens, no different from dog fighting.

And the man we got our nickname from? Was an avid "Cock Fighter", hence the nickname "The Fighting Gamecocks".

I don't understand the hypocrisy. Someone, make it make sense.

 

[Garnet chicken]

In a hundred years each of us will have our last named cancelled from history because we ate meat, drove a gas powered car, supported a political party (any !) or attended a church. Get used to it.

It won't survive that long. Every socialist state fails without question.