We should have been reloading with 4 and 5 stars during those 11 win seasons. But no, our head coach was playing golf while Junior was running the program in the ground! Those years should have propelled us into the stratosphere as a program, and we should have been loaded for many years after SOS left. The way he left is evidence that we were going to take a dive because of recruiting. He knew it and quit on us!
You have to go by some measuring stick. As long as they are consistent, then you have something to hang your hat on. We are still behind the pace set by Muschamp in his first season. And while not often, we have cracked the Top 10 a few times in the past, but rare that's for sure.
Spurrier did recruit at times. Dancing with Lattimore's Mom was the meme that trigger the domino effect on the recruiting trail. Memes also drove Dabo's success. Acting like a clown has its perks when it comes to teenagers and moms.
Don't think Steve ever regretted this. He loved him some Marcus.
It definitely would be a step in the right direction to have a top 10 class and it’s not impossible, but it’s extremely difficult.
Actually, it didn’t play out like you think.
Literally idiotic. As I stated we had a ton of 4 and 5 stars in that class that was #4 and then the reporter asked that infamous question about the future and Steve's honesty got the best of him. Literally, within the week we lost Arden Key to LSU and numerous other big time recruits. We lost like 10 big time recruits that year because of HONESTY.
I kind of agree with that. But Top 15 is not beyond our reach. The trick is to be consistent about it, thus usually bringing in Top 15 classes. What do you think?
Thought you were not a Spurrier hater? But anyway, you seem to think we would have loaded up on 4 and 5 star players. You have no proof we would have. You said yourself and admittedly it was a mistake for Spurrier talking about retirement. If he waited till the end of the year would it have made a big difference, who knows? Yeah, he quit at a bad time in the middle of the season and I didn't like the decision either but to blame him for where we are now is simply wrong. But you have your right to your opinion. We just disagree.
Hey smartass, I clearly stated in an earlier post that the retirement statement was the beginning of the end. I never questioned SOS HONESTY! Even a literal idiot like you should understand that SOS didn't get the job done from a recruitment standpoint the last years he was at USC. Even a stupid Okie like you would know our recruiting was destroyed by his HONEST answer. Plus he put his son in charge of recruiting who probably was barely smarter than your dumbass! As a matter of fact is that you Junior? One last point, are you implying that Beamer is a crooked recruiter? if you are you need to get your stupid idiot ass off this forum! Damn you are a stupid POS!
I'm not a Spurrier hater! I simply made the point that poor recruiting at the end of his tenure resulted in our program not being able to capitalize on the great years that he had on the field! We should have been loading up on 4 and 5 stars with three 11 win season in a row! How in the hell do you think Dabo has had year after year as an elite program? Big time recruits want to play with a consistent winner! Why is that so hard to understand? Spurrier took his foot off the gas at the time he should have kept the pedal to the metal! If he had done so we would have landed an elite coach at his retirement that would have had a full stable of elite players to keep those 11 win seasons rolling! Why is that so hard to understand?
It's not. We were in the running for an elite coach, remember Kirby Smart. Georgia rained on that parade. You are making a lot of assumptions that just don't add up to me. But like I said before, you have your opinion.
Like I said, wait till he signs his own classes as a head coach then you can say he is lighting it up on the recruiting trail. It’s equivalent to someone who has been vice-president of a company but never the top dog, give him the gig then see what he does when he has that position. This is nothing novel, you are just getting way out on your skis. It’s a hell of a lot harder to recruit to SC versus Georgia and Oklahoma where he had a hand in recruiting. And before you say his stint at SC, your fooling yourself if you don’t believe the draw here was SOS, not Shane Beamer as a position coach.
I swear reading comprehension in Alaska and Oklahoma is very poor! I clearly stated that the Spurrier name was what he recruited by until the infamous retirement statement. Then it no longer was attractive because other coaches used the fact he would be gone soon against us in recruiting. Even the stupid Okie, admitted we lost ten 4 and 5 stars as a result of the retirement statement. On top of that he put Junior in charge of recruiting which was a disaster! As far as recruiting against UGA is concerned there are so many elite prospects in the state of Georgia that if we can land the leftovers we are in great shape! As I have said it is amazing that some of you don't understand how the last three years of Spurriers recruiting impacted this programs ability to continue winning at an elite level. The cupboard was bare when he quit on us. He knew it and quit!
Gotta switch OCs. We have to show some serious intent NOW. It impacts recruiting if we don't.
Agree.
I have to agree with you. Thanks for posting a measured, rational response without all the personal attacks at RT that far too many of us engage in.
You'll never hear me attack RT personally. He did great things here for the baseball program, and he deserves respect for that. He's a good man, but has a fire in his belly as well, he's not a loser or a pushover like I've seen him called on here more than a few times. Those that call him a loser have no clue about RT, that's a fact. I'm not sold on him as AD, but also realize that decisions are not made by him alone, and sometimes I wonder how much input/power he really has when it all comes down to it. Sure, I can buy that some of our problems have been partially RT's doing, but the majority of the blame lies farther up the food chain.
I do think we can hit that 15-25 range pretty regularly. With our facilities and playing in the SEC, we certainly should be able to recruit at that level. With the right coaching, those types of classes can compete for championships.
