Lot's of talk about running off the coaches, firing 'em, replacing them - first question is who is BETTER, second question is what would it cost if that was even considered and the third question is can we pay two staffs next year, including Coach Spurrier and also pay the balance of his buyout for 2017 and 2018.
These folks all have contracts through 2016, Hoke's contract runs until 1/31/17 while the HBC's contract expires 12/31/18.
Ward and Hoke make $750,000/yr. plus a small 'stipend' of < $10,000/ea. so say $1,500,010 to get rid of them Our O-line coach makes about $550,000 - all of them together (above and beyond Ward & Hoke) about $2,000,000 total annually ... so that's $3,500,000 in 2016 for assistants to say 'poof!'
The HBC's buyout is $500,000/yr. for each year left, if fired ... that's $1,500,000 for '16, '17 & '18. Together it's $5 million + ... and probably PLUS a lot more.
Of that $2 million for assistants that ain't named Ward or Hoke SOS, Jr. earns a little over $400,000 annually. Also, Scott Spurrier (a relatively new father) works in the football department (as a state compensated employee, like all employees of the University) for a salary of $60,000/annually.
These are all CONTRACTS ... so, except for 'cause' they get paid when due just like they get paid today. Other 'jobs' can mitigate those payouts to some degree, but (if the negative people on this board are correct) those jobs might not be forthcoming so quickly. Even if they do unless they make as much at the new place we must make up the 'difference'. Start this ball rolling down the track and they might work for peanuts in 2016 and be happy to leave SC with the bill.
We MIGHT attract an 'up and comer' for less that the HBC's salary but don't count on it. People KNOW it's tough to win in the SEC and they also know coaches don't last long if they don't win, We'll get no 'bargain' to 'offset' our 'costs' IMHO. Good assistant salaries have also gone 'crazy' along with HBC jobs. The 'change' some people seem to be DEMANDING would more than likely cost us MORE for a new head coach and a new staff ... WHERE do we get the money? Big donors? ... 'cause 'little donors' ain't going to pay that freight.
All together what's being demanded by some will cost about as much as our 'relatively new' scoreboard we sweated for 2-3 years ... that didn't happen overnight and it took part of a 'bond' issuance to make it real. We've spent millions on facilities and thank 'da lawdy for private gifts for the Floyd football Building, the Dodie, the Rice Building and the new Springs-Brooks Pavilion but we're still on the hook for the tailgate parking, the new indoor football facility, the new practice fields and all the OTHER 'new stuff' that ain't ever related to football.
Nobody's gonna' issue new 'bonds' to pay buyouts and the 'big donors' in large part MADE the gifts they made BECAUSE of their personal relationships with Steve Spurrier. Dr. Floyd gave his millions before SOS arrived but ALL of that 'other stuff' came afterwards.
It hasn't ALL been W's & L's it's been the visceral emotion of being something bigger and better and stronger and more powerful and something moving forward. Not just for we 'little guy' fans but for the big-check people, too. Don't expect THEM to 'write the necessary check' ... that ain't gonna' happen.
Some fans keep knocking our recruiting. We had 11 4-stars in the class of '14 and 10 in the class of '15 ... most of those still 'getting better'. YES, we miss Connor Shaw and Jadaveon Clowney and Marcus Lattimore and Stephon Gilmore and JD Sweringer and a bunch more guys, too ... at DT and DE and CB and Safety and RB and OL and everywhere. But we DO HAVE a nucleus of excellent players while NEEDING a few more guys here and there. The cupboard is NOT completely bare.
Still, if you feel strongly enough about it call the AD and tell him you'll come up with the $5-$7 million it'll cost to get done what you say needs doing. Just remember the HBC is gonna' be 'thinking' about Jr. and Scott, as well as his coaches when Ray gives him the news. You may not realize (or CARE) just how much MORE SOS has meant to SC than W's & L's but I'm sure (without bragging about it) he KNOWS.
SOS already HAS a 'job for life' if HE wants it. $100K/annually as a 'special assistant' to the President & AD after his coaching days are over ... that's also in his 'contract'. I'm just suggesting to be careful what you wish for and don't be 'flippant' by saying 'TV money' will pay for it. THAT money is collateral for all those 'bonds' we've already issued ... and still INTEND to issue as the huge improvements we've needed for so long find their way onto the front-burner.
These folks all have contracts through 2016, Hoke's contract runs until 1/31/17 while the HBC's contract expires 12/31/18.
Ward and Hoke make $750,000/yr. plus a small 'stipend' of < $10,000/ea. so say $1,500,010 to get rid of them Our O-line coach makes about $550,000 - all of them together (above and beyond Ward & Hoke) about $2,000,000 total annually ... so that's $3,500,000 in 2016 for assistants to say 'poof!'
The HBC's buyout is $500,000/yr. for each year left, if fired ... that's $1,500,000 for '16, '17 & '18. Together it's $5 million + ... and probably PLUS a lot more.
Of that $2 million for assistants that ain't named Ward or Hoke SOS, Jr. earns a little over $400,000 annually. Also, Scott Spurrier (a relatively new father) works in the football department (as a state compensated employee, like all employees of the University) for a salary of $60,000/annually.
These are all CONTRACTS ... so, except for 'cause' they get paid when due just like they get paid today. Other 'jobs' can mitigate those payouts to some degree, but (if the negative people on this board are correct) those jobs might not be forthcoming so quickly. Even if they do unless they make as much at the new place we must make up the 'difference'. Start this ball rolling down the track and they might work for peanuts in 2016 and be happy to leave SC with the bill.
We MIGHT attract an 'up and comer' for less that the HBC's salary but don't count on it. People KNOW it's tough to win in the SEC and they also know coaches don't last long if they don't win, We'll get no 'bargain' to 'offset' our 'costs' IMHO. Good assistant salaries have also gone 'crazy' along with HBC jobs. The 'change' some people seem to be DEMANDING would more than likely cost us MORE for a new head coach and a new staff ... WHERE do we get the money? Big donors? ... 'cause 'little donors' ain't going to pay that freight.
All together what's being demanded by some will cost about as much as our 'relatively new' scoreboard we sweated for 2-3 years ... that didn't happen overnight and it took part of a 'bond' issuance to make it real. We've spent millions on facilities and thank 'da lawdy for private gifts for the Floyd football Building, the Dodie, the Rice Building and the new Springs-Brooks Pavilion but we're still on the hook for the tailgate parking, the new indoor football facility, the new practice fields and all the OTHER 'new stuff' that ain't ever related to football.
Nobody's gonna' issue new 'bonds' to pay buyouts and the 'big donors' in large part MADE the gifts they made BECAUSE of their personal relationships with Steve Spurrier. Dr. Floyd gave his millions before SOS arrived but ALL of that 'other stuff' came afterwards.
It hasn't ALL been W's & L's it's been the visceral emotion of being something bigger and better and stronger and more powerful and something moving forward. Not just for we 'little guy' fans but for the big-check people, too. Don't expect THEM to 'write the necessary check' ... that ain't gonna' happen.
Some fans keep knocking our recruiting. We had 11 4-stars in the class of '14 and 10 in the class of '15 ... most of those still 'getting better'. YES, we miss Connor Shaw and Jadaveon Clowney and Marcus Lattimore and Stephon Gilmore and JD Sweringer and a bunch more guys, too ... at DT and DE and CB and Safety and RB and OL and everywhere. But we DO HAVE a nucleus of excellent players while NEEDING a few more guys here and there. The cupboard is NOT completely bare.
Still, if you feel strongly enough about it call the AD and tell him you'll come up with the $5-$7 million it'll cost to get done what you say needs doing. Just remember the HBC is gonna' be 'thinking' about Jr. and Scott, as well as his coaches when Ray gives him the news. You may not realize (or CARE) just how much MORE SOS has meant to SC than W's & L's but I'm sure (without bragging about it) he KNOWS.
SOS already HAS a 'job for life' if HE wants it. $100K/annually as a 'special assistant' to the President & AD after his coaching days are over ... that's also in his 'contract'. I'm just suggesting to be careful what you wish for and don't be 'flippant' by saying 'TV money' will pay for it. THAT money is collateral for all those 'bonds' we've already issued ... and still INTEND to issue as the huge improvements we've needed for so long find their way onto the front-burner.
