Beamer gets a little more frank (no pun intended) about the offense

[GarnetBeamer]

This is as close as he's come to publicly saying it's a talent issue.

Beamer addresses offensive play calling

South Carolina Gamecocks coach Shane Beamer realized what he set himself up for while reviewing his team's offensive play calling during the 21-20 win over Vanderbilt.

247sports.com

 

[fowl_mood]

This is as close as he's come to publicly saying it's a talent issue.

Beamer addresses offensive play calling

South Carolina Gamecocks coach Shane Beamer realized what he set himself up for while reviewing his team's offensive play calling during the 21-20 win over Vanderbilt.

247sports.com

420 word answer.

When things are going swimmingly, chat all you want to chat. When things are not going well, it's best to generally spread the pain and say as little as possible.

We still only know one of Shane's most vulnerable spots as a coach, and that is he talks too much. His positivity is fine. He just needs to learn to back off on issues of controversey. Just say we were awful the last two years, we are working our way back. Leave it there.

Those paying attention get it.

 

[spardue]

This is as close as he's come to publicly saying it's a talent issue.

Beamer addresses offensive play calling

South Carolina Gamecocks coach Shane Beamer realized what he set himself up for while reviewing his team's offensive play calling during the 21-20 win over Vanderbilt.

247sports.com

It may be, but there’s no doubt in my mind it’s least 50% scheme. Satterfield even mentioned doing more “college” stuff on Wednesday. I haven’t seen evidence where they’ve tried to do what he and Beamer said they were going to do on Offense in the offseason

 

[GarnetBeamer]

It may be, but there’s no doubt in my mind it’s least 50% scheme. Satterfield even mentioned doing more “college” stuff on Wednesday. I haven’t seen evidence where they’ve tried to do what he and Beamer said they were going to do on Offense in the offseason

I have not seen that quote, but that’s somewhat hopeful.

 

[lowcountry_cock13]

1st year coach you can always say talent is an issue because you pass blame on last staff. But offensive linemen blocking each other, receivers running the same routes, that’s not talent but coaching and scheme.

 

[SC 95]

Some fans will critique everything Coach Beamer does and look for ever opportunity to criticize him and his staff under the guise of "we want to win now" or "we deserve better" or something similar. Most of these fans never wanted Beamer and pine for Chadwell like they did for Marshall.

 

[DeBoer31]

I don't think he's blaming talent (ie, Muschamp)...sounds like he's blaming players for lack of execution. He isn't partially wrong. Execution is a huge issue. He's leaving out that sometimes a guy can't do what he's being asked to do because of a talent issue. I think that's the part he is glossing over. I like that he's sticking up for his assistant coaches. He knows they're tied to him directly. I like that they're trying different things to figure what will work.

 

[Judson1]

It may be, but there’s no doubt in my mind it’s least 50% scheme. Satterfield even mentioned doing more “college” stuff on Wednesday. I haven’t seen evidence where they’ve tried to do what he and Beamer said they were going to do on Offense in the offseason

Don’t understand why we hear repeatedly how our QB is still new and we can’t really open up everything. They were just saying on 107.5 that Noland will allow them to open up. Tennessee seems to have no problems with two new QB’s and a new coach also.
The USC offense and defense traditionally must be the most difficult to grasp in the country.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

He asks fans to tell him which calls were bad calls. Then later admits there were some bad calls. What?

 

[cockyboyjae]

I'm not a Satterfield apologist by any means, but he has dialed up some plays that should've went for TD's if not for poor QB play. He wasn't the reason we lost the Kentucky game.

 

[Dizzy01]

Some fans will critique everything Coach Beamer does and look for ever opportunity to criticize him and his staff under the guise of "we want to win now" or "we deserve better" or something similar. Most of these fans never wanted Beamer and pine for Chadwell like they did for Marshall.

What about the people who were behind the Beamer hire and expected a 5 win max season but still have questions about the direction on offense?

 

[Flameout12]

Some fans....

Some fans think it's their responsibility to squash everything even slightly negative about the Gamecocks.

They discount that possibly hidden in comments they perceive as negative/condescending, are truths and actual discussion points by "some fans" who care about USC as much as the "fan" police.

 

[Flameout12]

What about the people who were behind the Beamer hire and expected a 5 win max season but still have questions about the direction on offense?

...are you one of those "some fans"?

 

[HOOVERCOCKFAN]

Play calling doesn't cause you to whiff on a block.

 

[DeBoer31]

I'm not a Satterfield apologist by any means, but he has dialed up some plays that should've went for TD's if not for poor QB play. He wasn't the reason we lost the Kentucky game.

Agreed!!! And since Dec. 6, 2020 Shane should have been working on a quarterback (amongst many other things). He brought in a guy from St. Francis, and a GA to coach...who turned into a QB.
So, poor QB play is on the OC and HC at this point. What have they been working on since early January?

 

[bucketdad]

Play calling doesn't cause you to whiff on a block.

That sounds more like not understanding what your job is.

 

[psmith5532]

What about the people who were behind the Beamer hire and expected a 5 win max season but still have questions about the direction on offense?

My realistic expectations were 5 to 6 wins and that can still be achieved. I'm not sure what people expected but this will be a 3 to 4 year process. You can win big without a QB (see Clemson). His first priority should be finding a QB who can lead a SEC caliber team.

 

[psmith5532]

Agreed!!! And since Dec. 6, 2020 Shane should have been working on a quarterback (amongst many other things). He brought in a guy from St. Francis, and a GA to coach...who turned into a QB.
So, poor QB play is on the OC and HC at this point. What have they been working on since early January?

So did you expect Beamer to sign a 4 or 5 star QB in that January signing class?

 

[psmith5532]

I'm not a Satterfield apologist by any means, but he has dialed up some plays that should've went for TD's if not for poor QB play. He wasn't the reason we lost the Kentucky game.

True...you can only call plays with the talent you have on the rooster...It's like a basketball coach calling for 3 point shots with a team who has no 3 point shooters.

 

[GarnetBeamer]

So did you expect Beamer to sign a 4 or 5 star QB in that January signing class?

some idiots have already stated that he’s at fault for us not having a good QB.

 

[Dizzy01]

some idiots have already stated that he’s at fault for us not having a good QB.

It’s more Tanner’s fault than Beamer. My guess is that those “idiots” noticed Hilinski waited until after it was announced that Bobo was being retained before he entered the portal.

 

[uscg1984]

I don't think he's blaming talent (ie, Muschamp)...sounds like he's blaming players for lack of execution. He isn't partially wrong. Execution is a huge issue. He's leaving out that sometimes a guy can't do what he's being asked to do because of a talent issue. I think that's the part he is glossing over.

I think you are right. You don't say "these guys suck" if you ever hope to get more out of them. So, you point out the poor execution and leave the door open for improvement. We all know some of our problems are only going to be resolved through recruiting, but there's nothing to be gained by telling that to your current guys.

 

[Dizzy01]

My realistic expectations were 5 to 6 wins and that can still be achieved. I'm not sure what people expected but this will be a 3 to 4 year process. You can win big without a QB (see Clemson). His first priority should be finding a QB who can lead a SEC caliber team.

I thought 5 was max. Figured the three early OOC and Vandy were locks with Mizzou and Ky as toss ups. I have been skeptical about Satterfield since the announcement just based on his history and thus far nothing has changed that. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to look at the poor execution by the offensive unit and the weird play calls and question the direction. It’s fine to say there are good calls that the guys aren’t executing but if you’re putting guys in a position where they can’t execute then it’s still a bad call.

 

[GarnetBeamer]

I didn’t he say blamed it on talent. I said it’s the closest he’s come to doing so. Of course no coach is going to say “we aren’t talented.” But you can read between the lines. It’s apparent to me from these statements that he feels talent is our primary issue. Is he right? No idea at this point.

 

[psmith5532]

I thought 5 was max. Figured the three early OOC and Vandy were locks with Mizzou and Ky as toss ups. I have been skeptical about Satterfield since the announcement just based on his history and thus far nothing has changed that. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to look at the poor execution by the offensive unit and the weird play calls and question the direction. It’s fine to say there are good calls that the guys aren’t executing but if you putting guys in a position where they can’t execute then it’s still a bad call.

That's probably my biggest disappointment...the offensive play calling and execution. I thought we would be a team that could score 25-30 points a game and struggle holding teams to less then 30 pts. Seems to be the opposite at this point. I've been somewhat pleasantly surprised at the defense FWIW.

 

[biting curve]

Agreed!!! And since Dec. 6, 2020 Shane should have been working on a quarterback (amongst many other things). He brought in a guy from St. Francis, and a GA to coach...who turned into a QB.

To be fair, how do you know he WASN’T working on getting a QB?

How many QB’s were even in the portal, and of those, how many were interested in transferring to a program with a shaky OLine (yes, theyve struggled blocking for years) that had death spiraled to 2 wins and had a WR corps that by and large couldn’t get open and couldn’t catch?

All you’re doing is speculating.

 

[bayrooster]

This is as close as he's come to publicly saying it's a talent issue.

Beamer addresses offensive play calling

South Carolina Gamecocks coach Shane Beamer realized what he set himself up for while reviewing his team's offensive play calling during the 21-20 win over Vanderbilt.

247sports.com

Funny, Muschamp had the same problem. We had to wait five years for him to get the players his staff had been calling plays for -- I guess those magical players never arrived to save his job.

 

[biting curve]

It’s more Tanner’s fault than Beamer. My guess is that those “idiots” noticed Hilinski waited until after it was announced that Bobo was being retained before he entered the portal.

So, now it’s the AD’s fault we’re short on QB’s?

Who are you going to blame next, the Equipment Mgr, or the Doo-Doo ice guy?

 

[Dizzy01]

So, now it’s the AD’s fault we’re short on QB’s?

Who are you going to blame next, the Equipment Mgr, or the Doo-Doo ice guy?

He was involved in the decision to try and force Bobo on whoever took the job. Unless the equipment or concession crews were involved in the Bobo debacle I think they’re in the clear.

 

[biting curve]

He was involved in the decision to try and force Bobo on whoever took the job. Unless the equipment or concession crews were involved in the Bobo debacle I think they’re in the clear.

Please post the link stating that Tanner was trying to force interviewees to keep Bobo.

 

[Dizzy01]

Please post the link stating that Tanner was trying to force interviewees to keep Bobo.

You know no one was going to put something like that out in a news report. Whether you want to believe it or not people around the process know that occurred and was a major sticking point for one of the guys many people on this board wanted.

 

[CockFamily6]

However it shook out Bobo the clown put a boning on us. He left us scrambling for an OC, screwed up the OL hire, and was the final straw it seemed for our top recruit. I don’t ever want another retread dawg brought into the program.

 

[CarolinaBro]

Yeah, this is the kind of speculation that's almost never substantiated in hard news reports, but I do remember hearing that the main hitch in Napier turning us down was that we wouldn't give him full control over the staff. It's ridiculous how many college programs shoot themselves in the foot because they're full of control freaks who won't let a coach actually do his job.

 

[garnet_reign]

Outside of the trick plays and calls on 4th down, the play calling hasn't been that bad really. At the end of the day, a play call is only as good as the blocking and execution allow it to be. My biggest issue has been the blocking on the oline. I don't know whether it's coaching or what. I guess that's one area where I wonder if the offense in general is too complicated and players are having a hard time remembering everything. I did appreciate Satterfield's comments this week when he said he gets it and criticizes other teams that he pulls for.

 

[LBGCOCK]

I was thinking about it a little bit today. What’s the saying, it gets worse before it gets better? Anyway, I think the defense hit bottom last season and are currently taking the turn upward to being good again. They are playing pretty well this season so far(better than expected I think). I think the offense is currently experiencing the bottom. It wasn’t good last year, but was better. So, IMO, this season is the worse before the better for them. I think that it won’t be much longer before they take the turn upward. Now I’m not saying in the next 5 games, but if they do get better and find 2 wins that would be AWESOME!!……GO COCKS!!

 

[Dizzy01]

...are you one of those "some fans"?

 

[tngamecock#]

why does this thread make me think of The Insane Clown Posse?

Some of you people need to learn the English language. The stuff he said in that article was spot on and accurate. There was no subliminal message as some of you want to carve out of it. Geesh….he’s right….no play is called for interceptions and fumbles or whiffed blocks. Yall act like he inherited Bama’s roster. Cut the man some damn slack. Now we’re looking for cryptic messages from Beamer….lol.

Seeing your boy Chadwell lose last night, don’t some of you need to run on over to Coastal’s board and call for his job and the AD’s too?

 

[world famous 3rd base hecklers]

This is as close as he's come to publicly saying it's a talent issue.

Beamer addresses offensive play calling

South Carolina Gamecocks coach Shane Beamer realized what he set himself up for while reviewing his team's offensive play calling during the 21-20 win over Vanderbilt.

247sports.com

A blind man can see Carolina has a talent issue...

 

[jonesz21]

Some fans will critique everything Coach Beamer does and look for ever opportunity to criticize him and his staff under the guise of "we want to win now" or "we deserve better" or something similar. Most of these fans never wanted Beamer and pine for Chadwell like they did for Marshall.

Most fans want the coaches to do at least as good a job as other coaches getting paid similarly. It is what it is

 

[CockyinMTP]

It’s not going to happen overnight, but Beamer Ball will bring us championships (yeah, plural). It’s like Heinz ketchup, the best things come to those who wait.