His leaving plus a bad hire. A good coach could have had this team in Omaha at least once with these facilities and pedigree. We should have the cream of the crop players on this team right now and we aren't even close to that being a reality. To say it's not easy to replace a Ray Tanner is accurate, but to say it can't be done is BS and it's a bad excuse for a coach doing a bad job.
Boy, we should have went with a baseball coach that had experience as
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He would have left one day. That's reality as well. As much as I would love for all good players to stay for 4 full years to play football or baseball, we wish them luck when they leave and understand their moving on. We could "in reality" say that losing players to the pros is what has caused us to lose certain games. If JD had stayed to play football instead of going pro, would our defense have been better? Absolutely. But we understood his leaving.
The reality is...we have had ONE bad year! There is NO downslide. ALL teams have them every so often. Just not getting why that is so hard to understand and some want to make more out of it.
Really enjoyed a comment I heard on a talk show one day. A little before this time last year, we were playing on Sunday, hosting a regional, for the right to play in the supers at #5 seed Virginia. Back in 2010, the year we won our first NC, we were in the exact same position. Hosting a regional and playing for the right to go play at #5 seed Coastal. So, up until that point, our resume was just like that of the 2010 team. We just lost last year.
The point being, as I said before, ONE bad year. Let's see what happens next season before we go off the deep end!
Really enjoyed a comment I heard on a talk show one day. A little before this time last year, we were playing on Sunday, hosting a regional, for the right to play in the supers at #5 seed Virginia. Back in 2010, the year we won our first NC, we were in the exact same position. Hosting a regional and playing for the right to go play at #5 seed Coastal. So, up until that point, our resume was just like that of the 2010 team. We just lost last year.
The point being, as I said before, ONE bad year. Let's see what happens next season before we go off the deep end!
That's different. Those guys were Clemson coaches, therefore you knew they'd have success.
There is a HUGE difference between being an assistant coach and being a head coach.
I wish he would change that in the title because it is painful to look at it each time I scan the topics.
Let me repeat myself. Going into that Sunday action at a regional we HOSTED(doesn't matter that we "barely hosted", we STILL HOSTED!), we were in the SAME situation as the 2010 team that won the NC.
Yes, losing to Maryland was an upset, but that was at the end of the season, we had a good season, 40+ wins. so, NO, 2014 was NOT a down year. I will state again, We have had ONE bad year!!
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Sorry, but we didn't "barely" host last year. We were a solid host site, we "barely" missed out on a top 8 seed. Once again a Holbrook hater twisting facts for their agenda of bashing Holbrook. If the team rebounds next year and wins a regional what are you going to complain about then? All of you haters keep saying if we just had hired a proven head coach we wouldn't have had a year like this. However, not a one of you have ever answered the question of how UCLA or Arizona St with proven head coaches didn't make the tournament the year after winning the NC, or how UCLA lost a home regional to Maryland. All you say is they are proven head coach, so it doesnt matter if they have a down year. That is not your argument, you keep saying that with a proven head coach years like that can't happen. Which is it? College baseball is full of proven head coaches that miss the tournament every now and then.
We were the 16th team to get a regional last year and we were no where. Close to being a top 8 seed.
Labs, in years past I trusted your posts on tif regarding baseball. You're hatred for holbrook has been obvious from the beginning though. Do you know something about him? Or was there someone else you wanted instead? Up until about 4 years ago I was very very close to the program. Not so much anymore. Curious if there is something I don't know about.
The difference in your example above is, those coaches achieved something by winning NCs. Okay, they didn't make it to a regional the next year but they had already proven they were good coaches.
Conversely, Holbrook was handed the premier program in the nation and has went downhill ever since.
All the talent just miraculously disappaears and is not replaced and call it just a down year? You are kidding yourself. The talent was not replaced the year before either, don't expect it to be replaced next year. This is the effects of a head coach that doesn't know what he is doing.
Bashby, I don't hate Chad Holbrook. I have heard from many people that he is a fine person. i don't know anything about him that would be a skeleton in his closet.
My point exactly....there is a learning curve and that is obvious. I would hope that three years in would help the staff understand more of what to do to be successful. I am not ready to throw in the towel on this staff as of yet. We are not a Tanner's team and I am not sure we are a Holbrook's team. I think we are somewhere in the middle which isn't good.
No, the argument by you and every other Holbrook hater is " if we had just hired a head coach with experience, we would never have a bad year". Those two examples show any team and coach can have a bad year. It doesn't matter that they have won in years past, they followed up a championship with a crappy season, your trying to say proven head coaches don't do that. Now your saying its OK they had a bad year because they won a NC. So if USC had hired a proven head coach and things were going exactly like the past 3 years with that coach, you would be OK with it because the had a NC on their resume? That is what you just said in your reply. Makes perfect sense!
No, I am not saying if we had only hired a head coach with experience we would never have a bad year, that would be a foolish statement. But, what I am saying is Holbrook has gotten worst each of the three years after he was handed the reins of one of if not the premier program in the nation. Each year Holbrook has gotten progressively worst and there is no positive, when looking at all three years consecutively.
2013 was worse than 2012. '14 was worse than '13. '15 was worse than '14. It's the trend, not the season.
Few more days left until the end of the CWS... After that let's stop gripping about Chad... It's not going to change and frankly, I'm tired of this subject...
Haha...ok coxman. You must be like the internet. Since you said so, it must be true, lol.
It not about having a bad year. It's about the team steadily turning into a garbage team that it is now. Get the "bad year" crap out of you head and put the "bad team" into it and you'll finally get it. This team is not even a shadow of a shadow of what it was when Tanner left.
We didn't "have a bad year" because "that's baseball." We had a bad year because this baseball team has completely fallen apart over 2 years of Chad Holbrook as our coach. There is a REASON.
Even with "one bad year because that's baseball" Holbrook still has won over 65% of his games. That's not "fallen apart"!
Take out the out of conference games (which of course he lost this year) and the numbers aren't as impressive. For two years he has lost to an abysmal Georgia program.
...and has beaten the 2014 national champion and 2015 national runner up in Vanderbilt.
