Chris Mack

[Bud Wiser]

That's cool. And if its on Google, it has to be true! Anyway, as I said, if you DO consider Xavier a mid-major, the success of Skip Prosser, Thad Matta and Sean Miller after leaving the Musketeers blows a pretty big hole in his theory that coaches from mid-major schools can't make the jump to whatever he considers to be bigger than mid-major.

In reality, no one who follows basketball would consider Xavier, Gonzaga, Villanova, Marquette, BYU', Cincinnati, Houston, Georgetown (even though they're down now), Memphis, etc to be on a level below the Boston College's, Ole Miss's, South Carolina's, Northwestern's, Colorado's of the world just because they aren't in Power 5 football conferences. Mid-major basketball programs are the likes of Western Kentucky and Murray State as he mentioned, College of Charleston, Loyola, Davidson, George Mason and the like. And many of them still have good basketball programs BTW

Again, mid-major term isn’t a slight. It’s just a label. It has nothing to do with the success of a program. I mean, I googled a definition of mid-major and multiple confirmations of the term mid-major come up. I’m just trying to interject some non-bias info into the conversation. Where else do you look up where the term originated and what does it mean? Encyclopedia Brittanica? Your definition, or idea of what a mid major is, is wrong as you’re hung up on a teams success. If it were success, we’d be considered a low-major team. But that’s not what it’s about.

You were wrong. It’s ok to misunderstand. Calling somebody a mid-major isn’t saying they aren’t as good as a P-5 conference team. It’s just identifying what level they play on. Gonzaga, a basketball powerhouse right now, is still a mid-major. Despite what you are saying, I don’t know a single knowledgeable fan that would disagree with that.

 

[81 Alumnus]

Again, mid-major term isn’t a slight. It’s just a label. It has nothing to do with the success of a program. I mean, I googled a definition of mid-major and multiple confirmations of the term mid-major come up. I’m just trying to interject some non-bias info into the conversation. Where else do you look up where the term originated and what does it mean? Encyclopedia Brittanica? Your definition, or idea of what a mid major is, is wrong as you’re hung up on a teams success. If it were success, we’d be considered a low-major team. But that’s not what it’s about.

You were wrong. It’s ok to misunderstand. Calling somebody a mid-major isn’t saying they aren’t as good as a P-5 conference team. It’s just identifying what level they play on. Gonzaga, a basketball powerhouse right now, is still a mid-major. Despite what you are saying, I don’t know a single knowledgeable fan that would disagree with that.

Well, I think you're coming at this from a football mentality, which is fine. We're a football school in a football conference. There is no one in the world of college basketball who considers Villanova and Gonzaga a mid-major, for example. Probably plenty of people in Starkville, Oxford, Columbia and clemson probably do. But, as I said from the start, that's a matter of opinion.

The hill I'm willing to die on is the idea that mid-major coaches inherently can't make the jump to "bigger" programs. Again, if Xavier is a mid-major, see Skip Prosser, Thad Matta and Sean Miller.

But, hey, it's a fun topic

 

[Bud Wiser]

Well, I think you're coming at this from a football mentality, which is fine. We're a football school in a football conference. There is no one in the world of college basketball who considers Villanova and Gonzaga a mid-major, for example. Probably plenty of people in Starkville, Oxford, Columbia and clemson probably do. But, as I said from the start, that's a matter of opinion.

The hill I'm willing to die on is the idea that mid-major coaches inherently can't make the jump to "bigger" programs. Again, if Xavier is a mid-major, see Skip Prosser, Thad Matta and Sean Miller.

But, hey, it's a fun topic

Odd since I haven’t even mentioned football. Once. You make some really bad assumptions.