College Football is more like a minor

[Legendary Cock]

I look at them trying to make the NFL, like a student trying to do well enough to make it to medical school, veterinary school, law school, etc. Many will try, a select few will make it....or should make it. I don't mind paying them a stipend, but I don't like the idea of college ball becoming any more semi-professional than it already is. The NCAA and the NFL need to change there rules or make accommodations for those players that really aren't interesting in getting an education and form a development league. That will allow the NCAA to raise the academic standards some and the NFL to get rid of the arbitrary rule of "3 years out of HS." It simply makes sense for all parties involved.

Sounds good in theory. But the NFL saves millions by letting college football be its de facto developmental league. Sure, they gripe about OL and QBs not always being ready for the league. But not enough to actually do anything about it.

But in the world as it is, when coaches are making these ridiculous salaries based on what these kids are doing on the field, people need to stop clutching their pearls when the idea of better compensation is brought up.

 

[Meancock02]

And yet many of them still can't afford to take their girlfriends out to eat at a nice restaurant. Meanwhile, those jerseys with their numbers on them and other paraphernalia are selling like hotcakes, making everyone BUT them millions.

I'm not saying that we should just start negotiating salaries with players. But I think a small portion of revenue sharing they help generate would be fair. Going a step farther, maybe put it into a trust and make it payable upon receiving their degrees. (And for the few that leave early for the NFL, they forfeit theirs back into the pool.)

It won't make them rich by any means, but since the fact is that most of them will never sniff the league, it would be a nice boost to their professional lives away from football. Maybe they can put a down-payment on house and marry their significant other. Maybe they need a reliable vehicle to get them to their jobs.

I don't think that's asking to much.

They get allowances from the NCAA! Most college students can’t afford to take girls out on dates that is part of the experience Nobody in college is expected to buy a house,they will be given opportunities, they have a platform bigger than the average college student to better themselves! I know of two players during the Spurrier era had stacks of checks from the NCAA for their allowances they took their time depositing,these guys get meal plans they don’t have to pay rent if they choose not to! These guys get enough!

 

[Meancock02]

College sports are about to be ruined,these schools have let the prisoners run the prison,if these universities and coaches put their collective foot down and,and let them know we need each other,none of these guys will ever get to the NFL without college they need to realize that! And be thankful for all the scholarship provides,if they are good there will plenty of time to cash in on their name when they get to the next level!

 

[Dizzy01]

When did the NFL establish a development league? With all the minor league ball clubs making money, it shouldn't be too difficult for the NFL to do the same especially if they limit it to one level. First rule....don't put the development league teams in or near enough to cities that have a professional team.

NFL Europe was their attempt at a developmental league.

 

[rogue cock]

NFL Europe was their attempt at a developmental league.

Too far away....no American audience. American football works as an annual game over there....it is an interesting spectacle, but I would never expect it to draw a consistent audience.

 

[ToddFlanders]

Exactly. I never have understood why everyone looks past the value of a college education. Thats because the majority of players think they are going to make millions in the NFL, so they get a degree in Swedish Art History and cry when they dont make it in the big league.

And as I mentioned before, they also receive hundreds of thousands of dollars of training, nutrition, skills practice, coaching, psychological coaching, etc. as well, (including the educational expenses). So these kids probably receive $150k-200k a year in untaxed benefits which directly benefit them (I’m thinking Power 5 schools now). How many on here make $200k a year and also get labeled as victims when their bosses make more than them?!?

 

[AnCRooster]

Feel better?

The platform they get is one they help generate. Their checks are for compensation for living expenses. And we just paid an awful football coach over $15 million to go away. You call that fair?

Please.

What does fair have to do with anything? I don't think it's fair that I have to subsidize people who won't work. Where does all of this money go to? It goes back into the program and to the rest of the athletic department and university. You see all of the facilities these kids get to use and cite as reasons they pick a school? The coaches don't get a bunch of money because the school loves them. They are simply seen as the tool that makes them more successful.

 

[Legendary Cock]

What does fair have to do with anything? I don't think it's fair that I have to subsidize people who won't work. Where does all of this money go to? It goes back into the program and to the rest of the athletic department and university. You see all of the facilities these kids get to use and cite as reasons they pick a school? The coaches don't get a bunch of money because the school loves them. They are simply seen as the tool that makes them more successful.

They get to use those facilities for as long as they play here. It's not like they can take them with them when they leave.

As far as coaches getting paid, they're making that money off the blood, sweat and physical exertion of their players -- most of whom will never sniff the kind of money these coaches make.

Fair? No, it's not. And don't ask them how it matters. Think about the Muschamp payoff. He was a horrible coach that has ground our program into the dirt. And he gets to make $15+ million for doing it. You think players across the country don't see that kind of BS and wonder why they don't even get the smallest piece of the pie?

 

[AnCRooster]

They get to use those facilities for as long as they play here. It's not like they can take them with them when they leave.

As far as coaches getting paid, they're making that money off the blood, sweat and physical exertion of their players -- most of whom will never sniff the kind of money these coaches make.

Fair? No, it's not. And don't ask them how it matters. Think about the Muschamp payoff. He was a horrible coach that has ground our program into the dirt. And he gets to make $15+ million for doing it. You think players across the country don't see that kind of BS and wonder why they don't even get the smallest piece of the pie?

They are free to pursue anything else they want to do or they can get private instructions if they think they can get to the NFL that way. Good luck with that. The majority of them are special admits to the university who wouldn't be admitted if not for their athletic prowess. This system is not set up for the benefit of coaches. And just where do you think think these coaches came from anyway? That's right, they went through the same system and are now reaping the reward.

 

[Legendary Cock]

They are free to pursue anything else they want to do or they can get private instructions if they think they can get to the NFL that way. Good luck with that. The majority of them are special admits to the university who wouldn't be admitted if not for their athletic prowess. This system is not set up for the benefit of coaches. And just where do you think think these coaches came from anyway? That's right, they went through the same system and are now reaping the reward.

And just why do you think these athletes are "special admits?" Because they are part of the money-making JUGGERNAUT that is modern college football. The system is designed to benefit the university's athletic department FIRST. The coaches, second. The athletes are a much distant third.

Some of those coaches are actually having a conscience and recognizing how out of whack everything has become in the modern era. Spurrier is one.

 

[ToddFlanders]

And just why do you think these athletes are "special admits?" Because they are part of the money-making JUGGERNAUT that is modern college football. The system is designed to benefit the university's athletic department FIRST. The coaches, second. The athletes are a much distant third.

Some of those coaches are actually having a conscience and recognizing how out of whack everything has become in the modern era. Spurrier is one.

The system benefits everyone - the players are not victims. If they want to go pro - they get hundreds of thousands of dollars of training, medical attention and coaching (as well as living expenses) while they wait out the NFL's stupid rules. If they want an education, they get hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of tuition, tutoring, etc. If they don't want either, then they need to re-examine their decision making ability.

Colleges offer a service - and the only payment they ask for from the student-athletes is to participate in practice, games and school work. It's a very fair trade off.

 

[MScott64]

I don't see where the game itself has been enhanced thereby.

Maybe not for fans, but for the student-athletes themselves? Having more freedom and the opportunity to make some money instead of none seems like progress.

 

[king ward]

Maybe not for fans, but for the student-athletes themselves? Having more freedom and the opportunity to make some money instead of none seems like progress.

I think that, as long as they are truly students as well as athletes, and in light of the fact that their schedules make it not feasible for them to work as other students work, then compensation has its place. But if the compensation and freedom to shop one's services around become the main things, then it's time to tear the structure down and start all over because it isn't about college anymore.

 

[Legendary Cock]

The system benefits everyone - the players are not victims. If they want to go pro - they get hundreds of thousands of dollars of training, medical attention and coaching (as well as living expenses) while they wait out the NFL's stupid rules. If they want an education, they get hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of tuition, tutoring, etc. If they don't want either, then they need to re-examine their decision making ability.

Colleges offer a service - and the only payment they ask for from the student-athletes is to participate in practice, games and school work. It's a very fair trade off.

It doesn't benefit everyone equally. If it did, the players would share in the millions of dollars of profits they generate for the universities.

They're not victims, but they certainly are taken advantage of.

 

[ToddFlanders]

It doesn't benefit everyone equally. If it did, the players would share in the millions of dollars of profits they generate for the universities.

They're not victims, but they certainly are taken advantage of.

In what business does everyone benefit equally - especially the customer? The college has a service to offer - if you want it, you pay for it, or you play for it. They aren't in business together. The student athletes are customers - that's all.

Again, if you only care about playing pro, then they're offering you hundreds of thousands of dollars of training, nutrition, coaching, medical services, etc. And all you have to do is practice and play in 12 games a year (which you would have to do in order to be good enough to go pro anyway).

 

[Cackdiesel]

Maybe not for fans, but for the student-athletes themselves? Having more freedom and the opportunity to make some money instead of none seems like progress.

If schools are required to pay players, rosters will eventually be trimmed down. They have a lot of room to do that.

 

[JamesRob]

League for the NFL than ever before. It’s a matter of time before it all goes south.

Let the college players make money off their name/likeness. Sure there would be shenanigans but no worse than the bagmen at every major football program today.

 

[king ward]

It doesn't benefit everyone equally. If it did, the players would share in the millions of dollars of profits they generate for the universities.

They're not victims, but they certainly are taken advantage of.

It's way more about profits to the athletic programs than the university's themselves. Many if not most of these athletic departments are incorporated. Most revenues go right back into athletics and most athletic departments are not in the black. Athletic programs that are doing well might send the university a check once in awhile, but these "schools" aren't getting rich on athletics.

 

[Legendary Cock]

In what business does everyone benefit equally - especially the customer? The college has a service to offer - if you want it, you pay for it, or you play for it. They aren't in business together. The student athletes are customers - that's all.

Again, if you only care about playing pro, then they're offering you hundreds of thousands of dollars of training, nutrition, coaching, medical services, etc. And all you have to do is practice and play in 12 games a year (which you would have to do in order to be good enough to go pro anyway).

If I bring in 5 million dollars to my company all by myself based on my hard work and talents, and they only paid me barely enough to keep a roof over my head and food on the table and pay for basic living expenses, would that be fair or equitable?

But I would have the opportunity to go somewhere else that would pay me a fair wage. These kids don't have that option. They've basically been outperforming their contract for decades, only to be told to shut up and be thankful for what they do get.

 

[Legendary Cock]

It's way more about profits to the athletic programs than the university's themselves. Many if not most of these athletic departments are incorporated. Most revenues go right back into athletics and most athletic departments are not in the black. Athletic programs that are doing well might send the university a check once in awhile, but these "schools" aren't getting rich on athletics.

That's largely due to the practice referred to as "gold plating."

The Gold-Plating of College Sports

Online home of Patrick Hruby, writer, editor, and journalist.

www.patrickhruby.net

 

[king ward]

That's largely due to the practice referred to as "gold plating."

The Gold-Plating of College Sports

Online home of Patrick Hruby, writer, editor, and journalist.

www.patrickhruby.net

Good article. At least it explains some things that many people are misapprehending about where the money goes.

 

[Legendary Cock]

Too far away....no American audience. American football works as an annual game over there....it is an interesting spectacle, but I would never expect it to draw a consistent audience.

And yet, for some reason, the NFL seems hellbent on establishing a team based out of England. I don't get it.

 

[AnCRooster]

And just why do you think these athletes are "special admits?" Because they are part of the money-making JUGGERNAUT that is modern college football. The system is designed to benefit the university's athletic department FIRST. The coaches, second. The athletes are a much distant third.

Some of those coaches are actually having a conscience and recognizing how out of whack everything has become in the modern era. Spurrier is one.

It's not designed to benefit coaches at all. Coaching salaries and every other salary in existence is purely what the employer believes is necessary to keep said employee for the company's benefit. You seem mighty peeved over something that the players themselves don't seem so upset about. If it bothered them so much, why do they line up to go to football factories instead of going for the best education? Why is Vandy the worst program in the conference? Isn't their degree probably the most valuable?
And besides all that, the University isn't paying the coaches their million dollar salaries to begin with. That money comes from boosters. Who are you to tell people where they can spend their money?

 

[MScott64]

It's not designed to benefit coaches at all. Coaching salaries and every other salary in existence is purely what the employer believes is necessary to keep said employee for the company's benefit. You seem mighty peeved over something that the players themselves don't seem so upset about. If it bothered them so much, why do they line up to go to football factories instead of going for the best education? Why is Vandy the worst program in the conference? Isn't their degree probably the most valuable?
And besides all that, the University isn't paying the coaches their million dollar salaries to begin with. That money comes from boosters. Who are you to tell people where they can spend their money?

Only reason the boosters can spend so much money on coaches is because they don't have to pay anything close to fair market value for the athletes themselves. It's called "gold-plating".. these athletic departments have so much money to spend and so few things to spend it on that they outbid each other for coaches who haven't accomplished anything, one-up each other for the biggest scoreboard, etc.

 

[Legendary Cock]

It's not designed to benefit coaches at all. Coaching salaries and every other salary in existence is purely what the employer believes is necessary to keep said employee for the company's benefit. You seem mighty peeved over something that the players themselves don't seem so upset about. If it bothered them so much, why do they line up to go to football factories instead of going for the best education? Why is Vandy the worst program in the conference? Isn't their degree probably the most valuable?
And besides all that, the University isn't paying the coaches their million dollar salaries to begin with. That money comes from boosters. Who are you to tell people where they can spend their money?

The only one who seems peeved here is you. Players go because they have no choice if they want to continue their football careers. The ones good enough for the NFL are kept put for 3 years. They then go to colleges and make millions for their institutions while getting a pittance for what they help generate.

You say they're not complaining? Do you not remember the players out of Northwestern trying to unionize? The NIL rights that look to be going into effect came about because a former player was upset that his likeness was being used to make money for colleges and the video game industry without anything coming his way.

The times, they are a'changin'.