I'd say the song that most fits him, after turning tail (yes, pun definitely intended) from the political pressure of the pro-gay militant groups, is "Coward of the County." Thank you, Ray Tanner, for having enough backbone to stand up for your convictions.
Dabo and Kenny Rogers?
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Was Tanner ever called out by a congressman before speaking at the event? I dont know just asking.
I personally think Dabo took the high road rather than engage in a meaningless political altercation.
You may be trolling. Something that I think is juvenile but i want to ask the question and give my 2 cents worth on
I personally think Dabo took the high road rather than engage in a meaningless political altercation.
You may be trolling. Something that I think is juvenile but i want to ask the question and give my 2 cents worth on
Unlike some I would never post a negative comment about Dabo and his faith, I can appreciate the way he puts it out the for the world to see but in this case he fell short. If you stand for something such as traditional marriage and make it public that you do and then cave to persecution of the minority you have failed your test. Clemson has about 20,000 students with only about 1400 of them objecting to Dabo's stance yet he caved. Where were the other 18,600 students who could have stood with with Dabo? The Bible warns of the persecution a Christian will subject himself to when standing on his faith and beliefs. Christians are to rejoice and stand under attack not blame politics for not wanting to be strong. Jesus said "They persecuted me and they will persecute you". Dabo, you can't have it both ways.
Don't know about Tanner, but I do know this much. Dabo never backed down from the controversy arising over he and his staff's use of the Governor's jet for several years. Politicians, common citizens, newspaper editors, and Gamecock fans were raising all kinds of hades with him because of that, but he just kept using it. I suppose Dabo's "high road" only applies to controversy over family values, not the usurping of a state plane.
No, Dabo did not take the high road. He totally caved. He's all about promoting his religion and his beliefs when he can control the local media. Remember those on field baptisms? Now, in this case, he folds like a cheap suit.
He wasn't going to be a speaker he was receiving an award same as Ray. he got the award but you have a person in the lower part of the state that made a big deal out of it and Clemson not Dabo said back off of this. No big deal.
Some of you just don't get it. You're too concerned about winning the fight to think straight.
There is NOTHING to gain from accepting the award from that group. Regardless of what the group stands for or doesn't stand for, it is bad publicity. I don't like Dabo, but he didn't cave. It's bad business.
I am very confident most Americans support gay marriage, and I know the media does, so just get used to it. It's not a popular stance to take.
There is NOTHING to gain from accepting the award from that group. Regardless of what the group stands for or doesn't stand for, it is bad publicity. I don't like Dabo, but he didn't cave. It's bad business.
I am very confident most Americans support gay marriage, and I know the media does, so just get used to it. It's not a popular stance to take.
Oh I'm sorry. If the media backs it then it must be OK. Where did you get your stats that most Americans back same sex unions? Dabo is the one who has the "not popular stance" according to your deduction. As far as something to gain, what did Dabo have to gain in the first place by taking a stance? If you don't want the publicity then keep your faith views to yourself. My point was that he claims he didn't want to get mixed up in the politics of the situation. Again, you can't have it both ways.
Have your personal views. I encourage it. However, if you're coaching a football team at a major public university, there is a huge difference between having strong religious beliefs and being against same-sex marriage. That is not an attractive position to hold when your employer's business thrives on attracting a diverse student body.
And again, I am confident that most Americans support same-sex marriage. I have no statistics. That is not important, though. The media can tear down Clemson if it wants. Tomorrow, it can be labeled as a backwards, homogeneous, bigoted institution with a fundamental Christian head coach. It's a losing battle.
I am not sure what Dabo's previous religious proclamations have to do with this situation. He possibly could have seen a situation like this coming, but that's beyond the point. In this situation, his lawyer or whomever, handled this well. He, in no way, took a stance on either side which is the way it should be.
EDIT: I saw your first post. You seem to think Dabo has made a public stance against same-sex marriage in the past. I don't think that's true. You may want to reevaluate your argument. That's my whole point. Someone in his position shouldn't take that stance, unless him and the university want to be crucified by the media.
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There is a lot that is off in here.
First, I don't think Dabo has ever publicly come out and supported traditional marriage. I can read between the lines, but that would have been big news if a major college football coach came out against same-sex marriage.
Second, he didn't cave because of 1,400 students at Clemson. Also, I am not sure why you think by not protesting, that means the 18,600 students support traditional marriage.
Check the stats because they are important when you make a claim. Wait a second though. Clemson is not a backward school with a fundamental Christian coach? Hmmmm I must have missed that memo.
It's 60% in favor of same-sex marriage, by the way. 37% not in favor.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117328/marriage.aspx
So yes, I'm correct. I wasn't really worried about that, and I didn't really think that was pertinent to the discussion. I already explained that.
Now, do you want to address anything else that I posted or do you want to nitpick?
I think I'll nitpick. Depends which poll you check. They didn't poll me. Did they poll Dabo?
