Aggie fans are really steamed that they didn't host the super regional against TCU, especially with the way the game ended last night. I"m not sure the story behind it: what could Hyman do? Schools don't bid to host super regionals, do they?
Eric Hyman taking heat from A&M fans
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I believe that the NCAA does accept bids to host super regionals in case the national seed does not win its regional, e.g., UVA hosting Maryland last weekend.
Good point. With UCLA losing, there was one slot up for grabs. A&M was more deserving than UVA. However, I'm guessing the NCAA did the "regional matchup thing", which meant UVA vs Maryland and TCU vs A&M. We've seen the NCAA do that before with us.
There is no reseeding after the field has been set. The potential super regional matchup was determined before the tournament started. Since TCU, as a national seed, won its regional, it got to host.
Not sure why A&M fans would be miffed about that. Butttttt, I'm sure they have a very good reason nonetheless.
There is no reseeding after the field has been set. The potential super regional matchup was determined before the tournament started. Since TCU, as a national seed, won its regional, it got to host.
Not sure why A&M fans would be miffed about that. Butttttt, I'm sure they have a very good reason nonetheless.
Oh, OK. Got it.
There is no reseeding after the field has been set. The potential super regional matchup was determined before the tournament started. Since TCU, as a national seed, won its regional, it got to host.
Not sure why A&M fans would be miffed about that. Butttttt, I'm sure they have a very good reason nonetheless.
Also, it's not about who is "more deserving," DarkCock. Apparently, the NCAA, liked the bid UVA submitted over Maryland's (if indeed UMD even submitted a bid).
By "more deserving," I meant better team. UVA was only a 3 seed in the regional. A&M hosted a regional, a rather weak one at that. The Aggies were on the fringe of being a national seed. But I understand what you're saying.
RAN peaked very early in the year. They played their best ball in March and April. Hell, we beat em' two out of three at their place.
If Hyman were still our AD, would Ray still be our baseball coach or would he have retired by now?
IMO, if he was not still coaching baseball, he would have taken an AD position somewhere else.
To clarify, if a national seed is eliminated in their regional, the NCAA opens up the super regional hosting to the school of whichever regional winner of the two submits the "most attractive bid," regardless of where the team was seeded or which regional they were originally in.
I'm calling BS. You want to spin it like the entire fan base hates Hyman's guts just because a few Aggie fans complained about something.
Tanner is effectually retired as it is. He doesn't do anything.
I hear from the USC people that Tanner is very hands on and involved, while EH was an accountant posing as an AD that didn't bother to show up for games. Man, don't get me started on EH. That game set up with Central Florida. Giving raises to coaches and turning around and firing them the next year. The failure to spend the money for Marshall. Ugh. Everyone acts like he's the reason that we turned it around in football and basketball. No, different AD hired those coaches. And yes he cleaned up the financial mess and continued improvements to our facilities, but the amount of money flowing into the school from the SEC accounts for a lot of that. I guess it's better to be lucky than good.
As for Tanner, whether being involved makes for an effective AD is another matter. Tanner has a lot to prove, that's for sure.
Looked to me like it was settled on the field as it should have been. Hell, at least they were in the same state playing.
What the......are you talking about? I don't dislike Hyman, like many on here do. I just saw he was getting criticized on the A&M board and didn't understand why, considering there was little he could do about playing a super regional on the road.
Go over to TexAg if you want to see the criticism for yourself. I'm not making it up. Here's an example:
Because Hyman took the ***** way out during national seed selections instead of laying his nuts on the table and fighting tooth and nail for the school that pays him.
Because we should "manage our expectations".
Would this series at Olsen have changed anything? Impossible to tell - but you simply cannot make the statement that home field advantage is not a tangible item - one that we did not have the luxury of being in our arsenal for the supers.
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They shouldn't be mad at Hyman, they should be upset at NC St. Had NC St not folded in the last two innings against TCU then A&M would have been hosting the SR. UCLA losing had nothing to do with the matchup. The winner of the A&M regional was playing the winner of the TCU regional no matter what. Since TCU was a national seed they were hosting the SR if they won their regional. It didn't matter how good of a bid A&M had. The only national seed to not host a SR was Missouri St, they did not submit a bid to host the SR, therefore Arkansas which did submit a bid got to host.
As far as UVA getting to host their SR over Maryland. I'm sure both submitted bids, however, the UVA stadium can seat over 5,000 fans, while Maryland 2,500. Which do you think was the more lucrative bid?
It would have been possible for two teams to win a regional with neither one submitting a bid to host a SR and another site that had submitted a bid hosting those two schools. There was actually a possibility that if Columbia had beaten Miami with VCU winning as a 4 seed that USC or another school that submitted a SR bid would have hosted.
As far as UVA getting to host their SR over Maryland. I'm sure both submitted bids, however, the UVA stadium can seat over 5,000 fans, while Maryland 2,500. Which do you think was the more lucrative bid?
It would have been possible for two teams to win a regional with neither one submitting a bid to host a SR and another site that had submitted a bid hosting those two schools. There was actually a possibility that if Columbia had beaten Miami with VCU winning as a 4 seed that USC or another school that submitted a SR bid would have hosted.
Some of you people are ridiculous. Step back for a minute and consider the following question. Who was the last candidate you voted for that won the election as POTUS? Whether that was Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan or whoever, did you agree with every single decision he made? Of course not! Do you not think if Hyman or Spurrier or McGuire were offered a mulligan, he wouldn't take it? Everyone wishes they had a second chance at something. You Hyman-haters use the fact that he wasn't perfect as a knock. That's unfair.
By contrast a credible argument can be made that since taking over, the Big 3 have regressed or flat-lined under Tanner. We can quibble over men's basketball, but the jury is still out on Martin. When supporters speak about Frank, it's still in wishful/hopeful terms about the future. In any event, I've yet to see Tanner make a decision and get rid of an under-performing coach. For example, he should've fired Berson this year. I've yet to see Tanner hire a coach who is excelling. His only "hire" is Holbrook. So far, that hire isn't looking very good at all. And, I've yet to see him come up with an idea or plan and put it in motion and succeed. To be sure, he deflects attention away from sporting failures by pointing to construction projects, which were all the brainchild of Hyman.
Say what you will, but at this stage Hyman is far superior to our current guy. Tanner could still make his mark, but as each year passes I'm losing faith.
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pepsicock
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You would had fired Dawn Staley. Frank Martin , Spurrier . and Chad Holbrook. lol
Good post, but I have a question and a couple of clarifications.
I wonder if N.C. State had submitted an SR bid, i.e., how can you be certain that aTm would have hosted the SR if the Pack hadn't had the meltdown?
TV Commentator mentioned that Mizzou St. was unable to host an SR since they share the stadium with the Cardinals' AA club in the Texas League, and the Springfield Cardinals had a homestand this past weekend.
VCU has the same situation in that they share the Diamond in Richmond with the Richmond Flying Squirrels of the AA Eastern League. I have no idea whether or not the Flying Squirrels were at home this past weekend.
TX A&M was a 1 seed. Their bid would not have to be better than NC State's, just competitive..
My understanding is that the other 7 schools in the regional/super regional bracket are "invited" to submit a bid to host the super regional in case the national seed is eliminated in its regional and they win their regional. No preference on bid awarding is given based on how the school's team was seeded in the regional, in which regional they competed, etc. It's about $$$, who can give a good show, and who hasn't hosted before/recently (as long as they can submit a "reasonable" bid).
Bids were submitted before the 64 team field was announced. Any school can submit bids and most do if they think they have a shot at getting in the tournament. I know USC's bids were submitted 2 weeks before the field was announced. Don't know if VCU bid for a SR or not.
You, as the closet sCUm fan you are, sure as hell wish he didn't!!!
You got me. The reason I didn't agree with eh was I expect perfection. Yeah. What were you saying about being ridiculous?
This! Maybe they're upset regarding his normal thriftiness. Maybe he refused to use the band for their NIT games. Maybe he's still up to old tricks of reading the want ad's for ever AD opening in the country.
Maybe they've realized what a professional BS'r he is.
Regardless, so glad he is gone.
Hyman made one bad hire. Get over it. All the Marshall lovers and Hyman haters need to let it go. It's just sad and pathetic that you can't move on. There is no reason to even have this thread in this forum.
As for Tanner, I am glad he is going to games and talking to people. Sound like exactly what I want to do when I retire. Tanner hasn't overturned any plan that Hyman began he just continuing what was going on under Hyman. The only thing he did was name his assistant his replacement and gave the guy a long extension as reward for making the team a lot worse.
HYMAN ONLY HAD ONE SIGNIFICANT HIRE TO MAKE! Football, Men's bball, and baseball drive the bus.
He didn't just fail on Horn, he kept Dave too long, He gave Horn an unnecessary extension.
Other than that, he profited from 2 hires made by Mike McGee (Tanner and Spurrier).
What is "sad and pathetic" is that you get sensitive over Hyman and then you take a shot at Ray Tanner.
I am not saying Hyman deserves a parade but to trash him is idiotic. He didn't do a bad job here. Which is why Texas A&M wanted him. I am huge fan of Tanner as a coach, but hasn't done anything as an AD yet and I honestly don't believe he or those that hired him are expecting him to do much. His plan is exactly the Hyman method: stay out of the way and avoid making any important decisions as long as possible. Right now Tanner is doing the same thing with Holbrook that Hyman did with Horn and he doesn't have a hire like Staley balance it out. Which he is benefiting from. 17,000 showing up to watch wbb per game. More than baseball and Mens's basketball. Wbb is bigger nationally than baseball.
Let's cut the BS. You know, I know, everyone knows that the real reason people are still whining about Hyman in 2015 is because of the increase in football ticket prices. Boo hoo.
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Good point about sharing stadiums with minor league franchises. I seem to remember a lot of folks in Columbia being pretty upset when the university and the city were unable to reach an agreement to share a stadium. It looks like Carolina did the right thing to go ahead and build their own.
Hyman destroyed the red neck ticket cartels and they are upset. The YES program is the single greatest thing that has ever happened to USC. Hyman was the only AD with the guts to do it
