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For the anti-vaxxers

JDishnell

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One of the better coronavirus memes I've come across:

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Anti-vaxxers are crazy, but it opens the door to an interesting debate on government-mandated healthcare (or restriction to access).
 
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The anti-vaxxers are far from crazy. There's a certain % of the population who cannot detox certain metals, plastics, etc. b/c of their genetic profile. (SNPs) An example of underlying elements that damage mitochondria and fuel chronic diseases - including cancer.
 
The anti-vaxxers are far from crazy. There's a certain % of the population who cannot detox certain metals, plastics, etc. b/c of their genetic profile. (SNPs) An example of underlying elements that damage mitochondria and fuel chronic diseases - including cancer.


Those aren’t anti vaxxers though . Anti vaxxers are the social media warriors who believe the medical community and government is trying to harm them through vaccines. They are nuts.
 
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Those aren’t anti vaxxers though . Anti vaxxers are the social media warriors who believe the medical community and government is trying to harm them through vaccines. They are nuts.

Possibly. Many seem to be moms trying to protect their kids who have issues b/c we started introducing massive amounts of chemicals into our environment, food and products starting in the early 80s. Any toxic damage/load can pass down at birth.
 
On Facebook, anti-vaxxers urged a mom not to give her son Tamiflu. He later died.
Online groups that routinely traffic in anti-vaccination propaganda have become a resource for people seeking out a wide variety of medical information.



One recent post came from the mother of a 4-year-old Colorado boy who died from the flu this week. In it, she consulted group members while noting that she had declined to fill a prescription written by a doctor.

The child had not been diagnosed yet, but he was running a fever and had a seizure, the mother wrote. She added that two of her four children had been diagnosed with the flu and that the doctor had prescribed the antiviral Tamiflu for everyone in the household.

“The doc prescribed tamiflu I did not pick it up,” she wrote.

None of the 45 comments on the mother’s Facebook post suggested medical attention. The child was eventually hospitalized and died four days later, according to a GoFundMe started on his behalf by his family.

The mother also wrote that the “natural cures” she was treating all four of her children with — including peppermint oil, Vitamin C and lavender — were not working and asked the group for more advice. The advice that came in the comments included breastmilk, thyme and elderberry, none of which are medically recommended treatments for the flu.

“Perfect, I’ll try that,” the mother responded.

The mother’s recent posts have now been deleted from Stop Mandatory Vaccination, but in group posts going back to 2017 she said she had not vaccinated her children from the flu.

The mother did not respond to a request for comment.



https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social...-pushed-mom-not-give-her-son-tamiflu-n1131936
 
Autopsy: Anti-Vaxx Mom’s Baby Died Co-Sleeping, Not From Vaccines


An infant who has become a literal poster child for the U.S. anti-vaccination movement died from suffocation while co-sleeping with her mother, according to a report by NBC News that cites the baby’s autopsy results.

Evee Clobes, a 6-month-old girl whose image has been used to put a human face on the anti-vaxx movement on highway billboards and picketers’ posters, did receive vaccinations 36 hours before she died, but medical documents seen by NBC News state her cause of death as accidental asphyxiation.

In Facebook posts, fundraising campaigns, and online forums, the baby’s mother, Catelin Clobes, has claimed vaccines caused her child’s death and circulated stories about other families who claim vaccines killed their children. NBC’s report also suggests that the anti-vaxx movement has relied on grieving parents like Catelin Clobes to push their belief that vaccinations cause autism and death.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/evee-...gn-posters-died-co-sleeping-not-from-vaccines
 
On Facebook, anti-vaxxers urged a mom not to give her son Tamiflu. He later died.
Online groups that routinely traffic in anti-vaccination propaganda have become a resource for people seeking out a wide

The mother also wrote that the “natural cures” she was treating all four of her children with — including peppermint oil, Vitamin C and lavender — were not working and asked the group for more advice. The advice that came in the comments included breastmilk, thyme and elderberry, none of which are medically recommended treatments for the flu.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social...-pushed-mom-not-give-her-son-tamiflu-n1131936
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I was fixated on the mention of elderberries as a remedy.
 
Natural selection should eventually eliminate these people from our gene pool, in the meantime they continue to spread diseases to unsuspecting people and bring back diseases that were long ago defeated through vaccination.
 
If you have some time to kill today (and I assume most of us have a little these days) - go read some anti-vaxxer theories. It's a rabbit hole of crazy that you can go down for days. It's wildly entertaining too. Understand it's not just vaccinations that they are against, it's tons of stuff. I think 5G cell networks are in their crosshairs right now. Enjoy.
 
If you have some time to kill today (and I assume most of us have a little these days) - go read some anti-vaxxer theories. It's a rabbit hole of crazy that you can go down for days. It's wildly entertaining too. Understand it's not just vaccinations that they are against, it's tons of stuff. I think 5G cell networks are in their crosshairs right now. Enjoy.
I do feel sorry for their kids, you really cannot control who your parents are. This is the result of many things: socialism, poor education, internet hysteria and a discredited study by a rouge scientist.
 
As usual, the debate is polarized because to do any deep analysis requires more work than people want to put into it. It probably makes sense to have around 20 or 30 vaccines in your lifetime. But the latest recommendations (soon to be requirements) are to get something like 75. The sales reps for the vaccine companies probably want you to get more than that. I know an autistic child that started mentally regressing a couple of days after a vaccine. Yes, that’s a sample size of one, but the big studies do not account for individual genetic variation. The child probably should have had that vaccine a year later than he did.
 
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As usual, the debate is polarized because to do any deep analysis requires more work than people want to put into it. It probably makes sense to have around 20 or 30 vaccines in your lifetime. But the latest recommendations (soon to be requirements) are to get something like 75. The sales reps for the vaccine companies probably want you to get more than that. I know an autistic child that started mentally regressing a couple of days after a vaccine. Yes, that’s a sample size of one, but the big studies do not account for individual genetic variation. The child probably should have had that vaccine a year later than he did.
I agree. We are not anti vaxers by any measure, but we won't get vaccinations for our children that don't have long term studies to show the long term affects. There's too much unknown out there to be injecting your children with the latest fad before it has been fully tested. Thankfully, there are those willing to be guinea pigs and test them for us.
 
I agree. We are not anti vaxers by any measure, but we won't get vaccinations for our children that don't have long term studies to show the long term affects. There's too much unknown out there to be injecting your children with the latest fad before it has been fully tested. Thankfully, there are those willing to be guinea pigs and test them for us.

Which ones have you avoided?
 
HPV, and a few others I believe. I'd have to look at the shot records for a definitive answer. My children are well past the vaccination age these days.

I don't know old they are, but this is from the Mayo Clinic.
"The CDC now recommends catch-up HPV vaccinations for all people through age 26 who aren't adequately vaccinated."
 
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