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Utterly ignorant point of view but you are welcome to it. Where this program was when Martin got here that record should be expected by anyone with an ounce of knowledge about basketball.Originally posted by ipull4usc:
Flat-out inexcusable no matter how bad the program is
Sorry but no. Martin is in his 3rd year and I guarantee if you'd asked him when he took the job if he'd be 1-18 in the first 19 conference road games he coaches he'd say it would be an utter disgrace.Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
Utterly ignorant point of view but you are welcome to it. Where this program was when Martin got here that record should be expected by anyone with an ounce of knowledge about basketball.Originally posted by ipull4usc:
Flat-out inexcusable no matter how bad the program is
And Frank is a beacon of morality spending 3/4 of his timeouts cussing out college kids? Remember last year Tanner suspended him?Originally posted by luvmygamecocks:
Will take Frank any day over that scumbag Pearl. Biggest cheat in the game! Just goes to show you how little integrity Auburn has for all sports. Win at all cost, even if you have to cheat to do it.
He just started his 3rd year in the SEC and you are counting games from his 1st year in your criticism. Don't be a doosh.Originally posted by ipull4usc:
Sorry but no. Martin is in his 3rd year and I guarantee if you'd asked him when he took the job if he'd be 1-18 in the first 19 conference road games he coaches he'd say it would be an utter disgrace.Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
Utterly ignorant point of view but you are welcome to it. Where this program was when Martin got here that record should be expected by anyone with an ounce of knowledge about basketball.Originally posted by ipull4usc:
Flat-out inexcusable no matter how bad the program is
Pearl is in his 1st year in the SEC and he's got more SEC wins than we do.
and he'll have more SEC wins this year than we will.
Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
He just started his 3rd year in the SEC and you are counting games from his 1st year in your criticism. Don't be a doosh.
Is he starting a walk-on white guy at point guard his first year? No? Okay, then he's much better off than Frank was. Not to mention our best players were encouraged to transfer by that POS Darrin Horn.Originally posted by Rollerdude123:
Pearl is in his 1st year in the SEC and he's got more SEC wins than we do.
and he'll have more SEC wins this year than we will.
Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
He just started his 3rd year in the SEC and you are counting games from his 1st year in your criticism. Don't be a doosh.
He's starting a miss-mash of transfers, jucos, and returning players- including a former walk on that is playing for him - and played tonight.
and he won.
Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
Is he starting a walk-on white guy at point guard his first year? No? Okay, then he's much better off than Frank was. Not to mention our best players were encouraged to transfer by that POS Darrin Horn.
So no. Thanks. He's obviously better off.Originally posted by Rollerdude123:
He's starting a miss-mash of transfers, jucos, and returning players- including a former walk on that is playing for him - and played tonight.
and he won.
Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
Is he starting a walk-on white guy at point guard his first year? No? Okay, then he's much better off than Frank was. Not to mention our best players were encouraged to transfer by that POS Darrin Horn.
of course he is - he's 1-0 versus South Carolina as Auburn's coach.
and his team looked like the more poised team tonight the last few mins of the game - in his first season.
Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
So no. Thanks. He's obviously better off.
So I'm right. Thanks for confirming.Originally posted by Rollerdude123:
of course he is
Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
So no. Thanks. He's obviously better off.
Originally posted by 75CarolinaFan:
So I'm right. Thanks for confirming.
LSU. And I was in attendance.Originally posted by Rod Dangerfield:
Who'd the one win come against?
This is spot on. Darrin didn't just lose. He sabotaged the program on the way out. Sad thing is many people on this board went out of their way to say Darrin is doing a good job til the very end. Most damaging coach we've ever had.Is he starting a walk-on white guy at point guard his first year? No? Okay, then he's much better off than Frank was. Not to mention our best players were encouraged to transfer by that POS Darrin Horn.
Very depressing.Originally posted by ipull4usc:
I took a look at the USC media guide. In the long, sad history of USC basketball, Frank Martin has the record for most consecutive conference road losses by one coach with 17 SEC road losses in a row. Our 1 SEC road win in the past 18 games was coached by Matt Figger in Starkville last season because Martin was suspended. The previous record for consecutive conference road losses by one coach was Darrin Horn with 13.
Everything you said is true - All f the mistakes and problems are due to one man - Hyman. He single handidly destroyed an entire program. He kept Odom too long, and gave him a raise and buyout on the the way outOriginally posted by Mox94:
I don't have a problem with Frank. He is about as good, probably better than the program could have expected to get, as he was wanting to get away from his AD at Kansas State. He inherited a program that was in the tank in a variety of ways after the Darrin Horn experiment. And to think Carolina could have done better, aside from Greg Marshall who begged for the job, remember that USC was turned down by just about every coach in the country with a winning record when we set up Dave Odom with a sweet retirement package as he was about to be shown the door at Wake Forest. USC is a tough gig to recruit to. The few real studs that this state produces are going to go to the elite programs. As far as Pearl, do I think he is better? Yea. He does create excitement around a program that few other coaches can generate. But Frank inherited a total mess. Last night the team was in position to win, but couldn't close down the stretch. Good teams do that on the road. Don't think the experience level is quite there do do that yet.
We have had several "destructors". Started with Holderman. Then King Dixon (should not have fired Felton and subsequently hired Newton). Wasn't Dixon's fault, though. He should have never been AD. Then McGee micromanages Eddie Folgler. Then Hyman and his stupid basketball hires. I have a mixture of high hopes and sympathy for Martin. As long as he behaves he is good by me for an extended time to build this dumpster fire. No one else has.Originally posted by uscfan1981:
Everything you said is true - All f the mistakes and problems are due to one man - Hyman. He single handidly destroyed an entire program. He kept Odom too long, and gave him a raise and buyout on the the way outOriginally posted by Mox94:
I don't have a problem with Frank. He is about as good, probably better than the program could have expected to get, as he was wanting to get away from his AD at Kansas State. He inherited a program that was in the tank in a variety of ways after the Darrin Horn experiment. And to think Carolina could have done better, aside from Greg Marshall who begged for the job, remember that USC was turned down by just about every coach in the country with a winning record when we set up Dave Odom with a sweet retirement package as he was about to be shown the door at Wake Forest. USC is a tough gig to recruit to. The few real studs that this state produces are going to go to the elite programs. As far as Pearl, do I think he is better? Yea. He does create excitement around a program that few other coaches can generate. But Frank inherited a total mess. Last night the team was in position to win, but couldn't close down the stretch. Good teams do that on the road. Don't think the experience level is quite there do do that yet.
Hired Horn and kept him too long and gave him a raise and a buyout on the way out. He turned Marshall down - twice and he does is dominate. and then he hired an overrated coach that wanted out because he had underachived at KState.
I'm not anti-Frank. He is a lot better that Horn but he is not a great coach (probably the best we can get).
We beat LSU 82-73 (OT) in Baton Rouge on Jan. 16, 2013. I know because I was there. And Martin was coaching.Originally posted by ipull4usc:
I took a look at the USC media guide. In the long, sad history of USC basketball, Frank Martin has the record for most consecutive conference road losses by one coach with 17 SEC road losses in a row. Our 1 SEC road win in the past 18 games was coached by Matt Figger in Starkville last season because Martin was suspended. The previous record for consecutive conference road losses by one coach was Darrin Horn with 13.
What you just said does not contradict anything I've said. I remember USC winning that game and Martin coaching it. Since we beat LSU in Baton Rouge, we've played 18 SEC road games. Martin has coached 17 of those games and we've lost all 17 of which he coached. Matt Figger coached us in Starkville last year when we beat Miss St. Martin has coached us in 17 consecutive SEC road losses, which is a school record for consecutive conference road losses by 1 coach.Originally posted by GWMorris:
We beat LSU 82-73 (OT) in Baton Rouge on Jan. 16, 2013. I know because I was there. And Martin was coaching.Originally posted by ipull4usc:
I took a look at the USC media guide. In the long, sad history of USC basketball, Frank Martin has the record for most consecutive conference road losses by one coach with 17 SEC road losses in a row. Our 1 SEC road win in the past 18 games was coached by Matt Figger in Starkville last season because Martin was suspended. The previous record for consecutive conference road losses by one coach was Darrin Horn with 13.
People kept saying the same thing about Pitino abd Calipari, they seem to be doing just fine.Originally posted by pepsicock:
Pearl will be in NCAA jail in 4 years .
lol, I love the fact that we have a special blacklist named after Cock HudsonOriginally posted by Diet Cock:
*** Cock Hudson blacklisted ***
This post was edited on 1/18 1:27 PM by uscbeckham